All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[StarShooter80]

Steven universe future is also not a sequel to the original series, is the same series but years later and basically the ending of the series.

Dragon Ball Z is not like Steven Universe Future at all can you stop with these weird comparisons

 

[Alexander]

Dragon Ball Z is not like Steven Universe Future at all can you stop with these weird comparisons

yeah you are right...

 

[Fezzih_007]

At least do a feat similar to that, erasing a huge part of earth

It don't really need trought, after this tournament the characters din't need to destroy huge parts of the planet for really anything.

Roshi destroy the Moon because of Goku ape form, but the characters don't need to do this level of destruction in RR Arc, or the tournament 22.
Even in the Picollo arc It wans't needed.

He was also using his full power in that scene

He is.
But also not really, he not using his full Max Power, since It destroy the Moon.

Ah, you don't show veins when you concentrate

In Dragon Ball, you do.

And he sleep for years

 

[Alexander]

It don't really need trought, after this tournament the characters din't need to destroy huge parts of the planet for really anything.

Roshi destroy the Moon because of Goku ape form, but the characters don't need to do this level of destruction in RR Arc, or the tournament 22.
Even in the Picollo arc It wans't needed.

in the Piccolo arc was needed for Piccolo specially, because he is someone who could perfectly destroy a city, so he could perfectly destroy the moon again

He is.
But also not really, he not using his full Max Power, since It destroy the Moon.

IT IS CALLED MAX power KAMEHAMEHA, stop trying to make it seem has if is not his full power, when it is

In Dragon Ball, you do.

no, you only show veins when you use your full power or when you are a angry, not when you are concentrating

Sleep

 

[Fezzih_007]

in the Piccolo arc was needed for Piccolo specially, because he is someone who could perfectly destroy a city, so he could perfectly destroy the moon again

But there's no Moon to destroy.

IT IS CALLED MAX power KAMEHAMEHA, stop trying to make it seem has if is not his full power, when it is

Yeah, that's just the name of the attack, Roshi fired a Max Kamehameha in the Pillaf Arc, and just destroyed a mountain, but later he used in the Moon and was able to destroy It.

So there's two different level of a Max hamehameha, meaning the first one it was not his Max Power.

no, you only show veins when you use your full power or when you are a angry, not when you are concentrating

You do trought, Krillin did Scattering Bullet he veins show up.

 

[Alexander]

But there's no Moon to destroy.

Then destroy a huge portion of earth

Yeah, that's just the name of the attack, Roshi fired a Max Kamehameha in the Pillaf Arc, and just destroyed a mountain, but later he used in the Moon and was able to destroy It.

and that is the inconsistency, he used the same attack at the same power potency, and the attack destroyed a mountain and then later, the moon?

So there's two different level of a Max hamehameha, meaning the first one it was not his Max Power.

No, it means it is a inconsistency, because it is called max power KAMEHAMEHA, there are no different levels for the same attack, it is the same attack and it is meant to be at full power.

You do trought, Krillin did Scattering Bullet he veins show up.

then it also when you put effort, because he does not need to concentrate to block bullets

 

[Fezzih_007]

and that is the inconsistency, he used the same attack at the same power potency, and the attack destroyed a mountain and then later, the moon?

Yeah, so It wans't in the same Power potency.

Like, when he did against the mountain, he just yelled "Kamehameha" but when he destroyed the Moon, he yelled "Full Power Kamehameha"

Then destroy a huge portion of earth

Again, there's no need to do so.

then it also when you put effort, because he does not need to concentrate to block bullets

What the heck you talking about?

 

[Alexander]

Yeah, so It wans't in the same Power potency.

Like, when he did against the mountain, he just yelled "Kamehameha" but when he destroyed the Moon, he yelled "Full Power Kamehameha"

He was in his muscular state in both ocassions, when he is in his muscular state he is using his full power, also the first one is the introduction of the kamehameha

Again, there's no need to do so.

yes, there is

What the heck you talking about?

The veins are used when you use your full power, or you are enraged, or you are putting effort

 

[Fezzih_007]

He was in his muscular state in both ocassions, when he is in his muscular state he is using his full power,

So? That don't mean every attack that he trown gonna have ALL his energy into It. Because he explicity yells "Full Power Kamehameha" when he does a second time, so the first It was not at Max strenght.

yes, there is

That being? Picollo don't have much reason to destroy a enormous part of the planet.

The veins are used when you use your full power, or you are enraged, or you are putting effort

Yeah he said that, i asked what you refering to with this

because he does not need to concentrate to block bullets

 

[Alexander]

So? That don't mean every attack that he trown gonna have ALL his energy into It. Because he explicity yells "Full Power Kamehameha" when he does a second time, so the first It was not at Max strenght.

No, he is using his max power when buffed, not when he is skinny

That being? Picollo don't have much reason to destroy a enormous part of the planet.

he also had no reason to destroy every city each year yet he did, that is not a good excuse

Yeah he said that, i asked what you refering to with this

why does Krillin need to concentrate to block bullets

 

[Omegabronic]

It matters for them both being on the main dragonball header page, people looking it up will be looking for both. Separating them is an active detriment to the user experience.

No, it us being accurate and separating stuff for different continuities, as we do with every other verse

 

[Omegabronic]

Also i'm surprised I need to tell you this, but making separate verse pages for different continuities Isn't the standard, it's only done when a section of the franchise is very different from eachother, fnaf world for fanf for example.

.......DBS Anime is as much different from the main canon as the Toei anime is, so by this logic we should still separate it

Specially when its scalling and story is completely different from the main canon, specially it shares continuity with Kai, letting in the main canon page is just desingenuous to what it is

The toei and games are separated because of how diverged there power level and lore are, the super anime and manga are virtually exactly the same in these regards.

No they are not, Kai and DBS Super Anime are just as divergent in those aspects

 

[Darkmon_cns]

.......DBS Anime is as much different from the main canon as the Toei anime is, so by this logic we should still separate it

Specially when its scalling and story is completely different from the main canon, specially it shares continuity with Kai, letting in the main canon page is just desingenuous to what it is


No they are not, Kai and DBS Super Anime are just as divergent in those aspects

No? I'm sorry but do you feel ok? Can you name a bit of cosmology lore in super that's different between them? The biggest difference even close to that is the top 5 warriors statment vs the strongest of them all.

Well...yes that is why it was separated I was here when it happened, and no there not separated because all continuitys are separated, there not, there separated for mostly practical reasons like clutter and that if a user is looking for one they probably don't want the other

 

[Fezzih_007]

No, he is using his max power when buffed, not when he is skinny

I din't say he was trought.

he also had no reason to destroy every city each year yet he did, that is not a good excuse

He did because he is evil and want to spread terror, by slowing killing the population on earth, but doing a Moon size explosion on the planet for no reason during the story? He don't have any reason.

why does Krillin need to concentrate to block bullets

Man, you hilarious.
Ok so you said this

no, you only show veins when you use your full power or when you are a angry, not when you are concentrating

So I point out a moment when Killing does a attack, bullet scattering, when he does concentrate.

And you somehow mistook this for saying Krillin took effort in block bullets? Really?
Lmao, you a funny person.
Are you trolling me or what?

 

[Alexander]

I din't say he was trought.

ok

He did because he is evil and want to spread terror, by slowing killing the population on earth, but doing a Moon size explosion on the planet for no reason during the story? He don't have any reason.

It's not like he's going to kill everyone anyway.

Man, you hilarious.
Ok so you said this

So I point out a moment when Killing does a attack, bullet scattering, when he does concentrate.

And you somehow mistook this for saying Krillin took effort in block bullets? Really?
Lmao, you a funny person.
Are you trolling me or what?

i am going to be honest, i didn't know the name was that for the attack, mostly because it is in english and the names of the dragon ball attacks in english are Shit, like try ray?solar flare?Special beam cannon?

 

[Omegabronic]

No? I'm sorry but do you feel ok? Can you name a bit of cosmology lore in super that's different between them? The biggest difference even close to that is the top 5 warriors statment vs the strongest of them all.

that's oddly specific

Well...yes that is why it was separated I was here when it happened, and no there not separated because all continuitys are separated,

yes they are, DB Games was the same page at one point, and that always had different Cosmology, since it was a different continuity, it was separated

there not, there separated for mostly practical reasons like clutter and that if a user is looking for one they probably don't want the other

no, they are cuz they are different continuities

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Speaking of Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Z is just a beautiful art with several original episodes that Akira Toriyama put together, what came after that was "GT" which is a parallel reality according to Akira Toriyama.

For me everything is an infinite shared multiverse of DB

 

[Alexander]

Speaking of Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball Z is just a beautiful art with several original episodes that Akira Toriyama put together, what came after that was "GT" which is a parallel reality according to Akira Toriyama.

For me everything is an infinite shared multiverse of DB

good for you, because as far as we know there are zero confirmations, and it doesn't seem like Toyotaro wanted to canonize gt

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

good for you, because as far as we know there are zero confirmations, and it doesn't seem like Toyotaro wanted to canonize gt

Goku sola!

 

[Alexander]

Goku sola!

a quien luffy?

 

[Darkmon_cns]

that's oddly specific

Because it was literally the only difference I could think of

yes they are, DB Games was the same page at one point, and that always had different Cosmology, since it was a different continuity, it was separated

The only reason they weren't separate for so long was because no one wanted to do it.

no, they are cuz they are different continuities

As far as I know and have experienced on this wiki, you are simply wrong.

 

[Omegabronic]

Because it was literally the only difference I could think of

.........are you seriously trying to tell me the DBS Manga and Anime are indentical in everything, story, characters, etc, and that cosmology is the only difference you can think of?.....have, have you ever read or watched both? like.....at all?

The only reason they weren't separate for so long was because no one wanted to do it.

............yeah, good opinion

see verses like Sonic and Dragon Ball itself and you will see that different continuities get different verse pages due to their differences, and even then they are still separated even if they are the same continuity, like Sonic Boom and Archie Sonic Post-Reboot and Dr.Slump and Dragon Ball

As far as I know and have experienced on this wiki, you are simply wrong.

As far as I know and have experienced on this wiki, you are simply wrong.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

.........are you seriously trying to tell me the DBS Manga and Anime are indentical in everything, story, characters, etc, and that cosmology is the only difference you can think of?.....have, have you ever read or watched both? like.....at all?

Cosmology is the only difference that matters largly because of the nature if high level feats. This discussion has essential boiled down to "I'm right about this your wrong" do I don't intend to engage with it anymore

 

[Omegabronic]

Cosmology is the only difference that matters largly because of the nature if high level feats.

......no, no it isn't, the story is significantly different, as much different as Toei DB and Manga DB

This discussion has essential boiled down to "I'm right about this your wrong" do I don't intend to engage with it anymore

ok

 

[Darkmon_cns]

......no, no it isn't, the story is significantly different, as much different as Toei DB and Manga DB

Are...you ok? I mean this completely legitimately. How can you think the existence of characters like garlic jr, janimba, and cooler not to mention entire arks like the other world tournament with an entire extra series taking place years later is equivalent to the differences between the super anime and manga? 2 things that well the storyline differ use the same characters and concepts for there storys? You somehow think these things are equally different?

 

[Omegabronic]

Are...you ok? I mean this completely legitimately. How can you think the existence of characters like garlic jr, janimba, and cooler not to mention entire arks like the other world tournament with an entire extra series taking place years later is equivalent to the differences between the super anime and manga? 2 things that well the storyline differ use the same characters and concepts for there storys? You somehow think these things are equally different?

1 i said specifically Toei's differences with the manga, as in, not including GT as it isn't a different depiction of a new story

2 yeah, the DBS Anime has many different characters in its episodes, thr clone Vegeta, Barry Khan and that weird pasite thing, the cat aliens that came to fight Mr.Satan, etc. As well as several additional arcs and fights, like the copy Vegeta one, so yeah, i am quite serious when saying both are majorly different

 

[Darkmon_cns]

1 i said specifically Toei's differences with the manga, as in, not including GT as it isn't a different depiction of a new story

2 yeah, the DBS Anime has many different characters in its episodes, thr clone Vegeta, Barry Khan and that weird pasite thing, the cat aliens that came to fight Mr.Satan, etc. As well as several additional arcs and fights, like the copy Vegeta one, so yeah, i am quite serious when saying both are majorly different

1 GT is definitely part of the toei timeline and there is no reasonable interpretation of what you've been talking about so far that excludes GT, you're only trying to exclude it now, because it makes what you were saying before objectively absurd.

2 the OG dragonball and DBZ have many times more one off filler characters. You claimed they were equally different, I found that idea absurd (and it is) these one off filler characters aren't a major difference. They change nothing in the grand scale of the world and fit the tone and setting of both manga and anime it is the major changing of cosmology and add ons that make story beats impossible that truly make it a "major difference"

 

[Shar122]

The DBZ anime kinda contradicts DBZ movie stuff

 

[Omegabronic]

1 GT is definitely part of the toei timeline and there is no reasonable interpretation of what you've been talking about so far that excludes GT, you're only trying to exclude it now, because it makes what you were saying before objectively absurd.

No it doesn't? I was purely comparing the OG Manga with the original adaptation of the Toei anime......if you want to include GT i can just as easily include Super, which leaves the original points of the ammount of differences the same..........so, again, i wasn't talking about GT, as GT can be a difference Z Toei to Z Manga as GT isn't Z Toei, it is a different Anime that continues its story

2 the OG dragonball and DBZ have many times more one off filler characters. You claimed they were equally different

i don't mean in a literal sense, as i didn't stopped to count the ammount of filler characters, but the the ammount of completely new added content that was not in the manga, percentage wise, is similar

, I found that idea absurd (and it is) these one off filler characters aren't a major difference.

......and you are the one to put in stone what is "major" and what isn't because?

They change nothing in the grand scale of the world

and that matters for them to be factually different because? And to have many additions in mass that weren't in the manga how?

and fit the tone and setting of both manga

......this matters for a conversation about differences......how?

and anime it is the major changing of cosmology and add ons that make story beats impossible that truly make it a "major difference"

..........again, you decide what is major and what isn't......why?

 

[Omegabronic]

The DBZ anime kinda contradicts DBZ movie stuff

Working on something for this

 

[Darkmon_cns]

No it doesn't? I was purely comparing the OG Manga with the original adaptation of the Toei anime......if you want to include GT i can just as easily include Super, which leaves the original points of the ammount of differences the same..........so, again, i wasn't talking about GT, as GT can be a difference Z Toei to Z Manga as GT isn't Z Toei, it is a different Anime that continues its story


i don't mean in a literal sense, as i didn't stopped to count the ammount of filler characters, but the the ammount of completely new added content that was not in the manga, percentage wise, is similar


......and you are the one to put in stone what is "major" and what isn't because?


and that matters for them to be factually different because? And to have many additions in mass that weren't in the manga how?


......this matters for a conversation about differences......how?


..........again, you decide what is major and what isn't......why?

No you were talking about how the toei timeline and the kia/super timeline were equally different from the OG Manga super timeline. They aren't equally different there is no context. I don't see a good reason to continue this discussion honestly your in deep denial about things you yourself said I've honestly lost alot of respect for you, I genuinely hope you just are tired and that's why this is happening. Please have a good day and get some rest.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

No you were talking about how the toei timeline and the kia/super timeline were equally different from the OG Manga super timeline. They aren't equally different there is no context. I don't see a good reason to continue this discussion honestly your in deep denial about things you yourself said I've honestly lost alot of respect for you, I genuinely hope you just are tired and that's why this is happening. Please have a good day and get some rest.

God damn bro I mean I take issue with Omega's argumentation, him digging his heels and stone walling everything, and his obvious bias against the verse but this was some cold ass shit

Bro lost respect for him

Mfer dumped him that shi tragic new patek

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

DB Ultimate Villain, lol

 

[Pyro9278]

Thread 'Ryūko Matoi VS Son Goku'

Dec 20, 2024

Tomboy vs. Monkey Boy
Rules:

• Equal Speed.
• The fight takes place in Tokyo, both starting 80 meters apart.
• Ryuko Kisaragi.
• Goku 23rd Budōkai.

Ryūko Matoi (31.0 Exatons):

Son Goku (118.4 Exatons):

Incon:

• Pyro9278
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• Forum: Versus Threads

 

[Huesito88]

DB Ultimate Villain, lol

Then whom is DB Ultimate Hero?

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Goku

 

[Huesito88]

Goku

Yet Goku got beat by the Ultimate Villain

 

[Rokim21]

So anyway, Episode 10 really was something eh?
How y'all think the future super duper big sized Daima CRT is gonna look like?

 

[Darkmon_cns]

So anyway, Episode 10 really was something eh?
How y'all think the future super duper big sized Daima CRT is gonna look like?

Ua tbh I don't know if it'll change much. We could arguably have another tier 1 character. But he'll probably just be tier 2.

 

[Darkmon_cns]

Dose anyone else here like the angles of franchise vs franchise in there entirety?