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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread
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MeiouHades
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Has anyone here ever taken an IQ test?
Fezzih_007
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Have you?
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Yeah and my score was so high that the IQ scouters exploded.
MeiouHades
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Yeah, Mensa test, twice in my life. One was when I was 6 and one during college
Eden_Warlock99
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Raditz Kamehameha I bet
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Minor Dragon Ball addition
Goku is able to increase the AP his attacks, such as the Kamehameha, by charging them up. Examples: Sergeant Metallic was undamaged by Goku's standard strikes, but a Kamehameha obliterated his head (Dragon Ball #58-59) SSJ Goku's Instant Kamehameha obliterated the upper portion of Cell's body...
it happened here
Fezzih_007
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Hey hey, i made a CRT to make Frieza 4-B, because his current tier is kinda wrong... I think.
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Btw, this is a Dangaronpa reference.
Freeza upgrade
So, i noticed something weird on Freeza profile in his AP section. At least Large Star level (Far stronger than Tagoma, and easily defeated Super Saiyan Gohan with a barrage of Death Beams) So is Gohan High 4-C? No, he is 4-B. So i think Freeza should be 4-B based on that.
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MeiouHades
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Hey hey, i made a CRT to make Frieza 4-B, because his current tier is kinda wrong... I think.
Freeza upgrade
So, i noticed something weird on Freeza profile in his AP section. At least Large Star level (Far stronger than Tagoma, and easily defeated Super Saiyan Gohan with a barrage of Death Beams) So is Gohan High 4-C? No, he is 4-B. So i think Freeza should be 4-B based on that.
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All movies are canon to Toei scholars, rise
Serlock_Holmes
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Maybe that would be the timeline after the universe 12 split.
Eden_Warlock99
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3-B Toei Cell saga it is lol
MeiouHades
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4-B Toei Cell makes no sense lmao. There’s so many statements about them scaling much higher, with Frieza even having an “outlier” 4-A feat. No reason they can’t be higher other than classic VS Wiki ”nah they can’t be that strong cuz I said so”.
MeiouHades
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this doesn’t make sense to me. How was CC Goku able to recognize and identify several movie villains then?
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Since SSJ4 Goku isn’t rocking the heroes fit, i think these cards aren’t taking heroes lore into mind and are just portraying Super and GT
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Yeah Toei Frieza’s 4-A feat being considered an outlier is dumb someone should make a crt for it one day fs
Serlock_Holmes
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It might be referring to the new episode of heroes.
MeiouHades
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JJ sent me a statement about it (I think it’s from a guidebook) about the Namek explosion being visible from across the galaxy, which perfectly corroborates what we saw in the anime, meaning it is consistent. It shouldn‘t even be an outlier considering only 50% Frieza and above scale to it.
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yo send the statement
MeiouHades
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Here’s the source from Toei: https://lineup.toei-anim.co.jp/ja/tv/dragonz/episode/117/
Here‘s the image:
And yes, here’s the Kanji for “Ginga” (galaxy]:
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what is the argument for it not being an outlier again?
Serlock_Holmes
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Don't think it means much. I mean the across the galaxy part is good but no idea if we can say the explosion was so bright it was able to be seen from any point in the galaxy.Here’s the source from Toei: https://lineup.toei-anim.co.jp/ja/tv/dragonz/episode/117/
Here‘s the image:
And yes, here’s the Kanji for “Ginga” (galaxy]:
MeiouHades
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The fact that it being an outlier itself is dumb. You can call almost every feat an outlier with logic like this. You don’t see a single BoG-like feat in DBS, or even a statement, until maybe ToP. Is that an outlier as well?
MeiouHades
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That’s why we have the anime,
Eden_Warlock99
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Wasn't it disregarded because Namek's Core exploding is what caused it rather than Frieza and Frieza tanking only puts him at 4-B (Although he's currently High 4-C)
MeiouHades
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Busting a planet’s core won’t cause it to explode like confetti. Even if that was true, he survived that level of energy thrown at his face while he was beaten up, fried by a Ki attack (you fool!) and cut in half which speaks volumes about his durability. The same Frieza, being at max power, with much more HP and NOT being cut up, was being hurt by Goku’s attacks.
And no it was regarded as an outlier, the core busting argument never shown up as far as I remember.
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Are there any significantly lower feats relevant to Goku and co.? Because if not, then that is not an outlier, that is a really lonely dot on an empty graph.
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considering that i saw a calc from someone surviving the moon exploding calced at like, high 7-C, i would request a calc before even thinking of doing anything
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There were already some I believe already made that did take into account Inverse Law (They might be outdated though)
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If that's the case (Namek Frieza 4-B durability) then SSJ Trunks and by extension SSJ Goku should be 4-B since they can take him out. Toei Namek being at that level isn't really even out of nowhere, I mean even base Namek Goku's power could already reach multiple surrounding planets.
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I recall someone tried to make a thread and get that added a some ability for Goku, but that got rejected so...
MeiouHades
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Yes there are, there are many “anti-feats” and “anti-statements” in that time frame.
MeiouHades
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I have an entire video that shows these bullshit feats and statements Toei just gave characters randomly. Not surprised it got rejected.
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You gonna post them or not?
MeiouHades
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Right now? No, I’m on lunch break.
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what method does the old calc uses? if it is very old a re calc to a more "up to date standards" would be almost a necessity
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That there’s nothing that’d make it an outlier except maybe Cell but I don’t think that’d consider It one since the characters scale above that feat
Yeah the blog owner calced it at 4-B but if it was calced the right way it’d be 4-A so it was rejected
MeiouHades
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Yep and I just realized that Frieza and Goku stated that he had held back, so if the calc does come out to 4-A anyway, there’s no reason why Frieza wouldn’t be 4-A.
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