All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

[Deagonx]

You were almost there. You calculated the hypotenuse correctly but you can actually solve it without the hypotenuse.

 

[MeiouHades]

It is 360°

No

 

[MeiouHades]

They're all right triangles. C is trivially 45 because it bisects a square diagonally, but for the other triangles you need a big of trigonometry. The squares are the same distance so you know the ratios of the sides, so if you treat the sides of the square as "1" then you can get the ratios of the non-hypotenuse sides very easily and use an inverse tangent function to get the angle in question, but the numbers aren't nice pretty numbers in that case, but A and B add up to 45 so the final result is easier.

A = 18.4349488 degrees
B = 26.5650512 degrees
C = 45 degrees

A + B + C = 90 degrees.

There might be an easier way to do it, but all I remember from trig is Pythagorean theorem and SOH-CAH-TOA so that's the best I can do lol.

This is correct. However there is a way to do it without any trig if you don’t remember much from it, like you said.

 

[ImmortalDread]

They're all right triangles. C is trivially 45 because it bisects a square diagonally, but for the other triangles you need a big of trigonometry. The squares are the same distance so you know the ratios of the sides, so if you treat the sides of the square as "1" then you can get the ratios of the non-hypotenuse sides very easily and use an inverse tangent function to get the angle in question, but the numbers aren't nice pretty numbers in that case, but A and B add up to 45 so the final result is easier.

A = 18.4349488 degrees
B = 26.5650512 degrees
C = 45 degrees

A + B + C = 90 degrees.

There might be an easier way to do it, but all I remember from trig is Pythagorean theorem and SOH-CAH-TOA so that's the best I can do lol.

My method was way easier and I got 90° smh

 

[ImmortalDread]

what the hell this thread turned into??

Mathematics.

 

[MeiouHades]

My method was way easier and I got 90° smh

It was easy but not correct. Your method was the equivalent of saying Naruto is universal then presenting that Kaguya ETSO scan.

 

[ImmortalDread]

There is no objective “correct” method except measuring it. There are three unknown values, with a sum also being unknown to us. The only way to solve that is to measure it in fact, since the problem is visual.

I simply guessed it because I solved those type of angles, 10000 times to be able to guess their angle approximately correct.

 

[MeiouHades]

Here is my method, the easiest way IMO since it requires only elementary Geometry.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

There is no objective “correct” method except measuring it. There are three unknown values, with a sum also being unknown to us. The only way to solve that is to measure it in fact.

I simply guessed it because I solved those type of angles, 10000 times to be able to guess their angle approximately correct.

Given a multiple choice I would also pick 90 but I would prefer to have actual numbers if time is not a problem.

 

[Deagonx]

I'm sure there's a way to intuit that A and B add up to 45, but I don't know how to do so.

 

[Spinoirr]

Hopefully the super hero arc will end next month

 

[Deagonx]

Here is my method, the easiest way IMO since it requires only elementary Geometry.

Tbh I don't follow the logic here.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Yeah can't see why x+y have to add to 45 degrees.

Tbh I don't follow the logic here.

 

[MeiouHades]

Tbh I don't follow the logic here.

You construct 6 additional congruent squares as shown, then you construct the right triangles with angle X and Y vertically to notice that they’re part of an isosceles right triangle, meaning they add up to 45. That means X+Y+Z=45+45=90

 

[MeiouHades]

I'm sure there's a way to intuit that A and B add up to 45, but I don't know how to do so.

There is one, just notice that you have similar triangles. That method doesn’t even require any additional construction or calculation

 

[AwkguyDB]

Please don't make a blog just yet, I see some room from improvement (stuff like SFPSSJ4 Goku scaling to Omega, and not Syn/EoGT Goku scaling above Omegaa in base) and i'm planning on doing a full rewatch of GT to get everything more ironed out/see if anything can be added

Wait I am confused you would scale SFPSSJ4 to Omega or to Syn?

 

[MeiouHades]

If this problem stumped you, don’t feel too bad. It also stumped by college mates, they’re mathematics majors.

 

[Omegabronic]

what the hell this thread turned into??

People wining for and against as usual, gives me lazyness to read tbh

 

[Deagonx]

I dont see the proposed isosceles right triangle.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I don't see how X (A) and Y (B) are 45°, if they are clearly shown to be distinct and lower than 45°. Z (C) is the only 45°, so the conclusion seems horribly wrong.
Let alone X! and Y! are not equal, so it can't be both the same.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

If this problem stumped you, don’t feel too bad. It also stumped by college mates, they’re mathematics majors.

What denotes the new triangle is right? It's isosceles yes but why do we suppose it's right?

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

I dont see the proposed isosceles right triangle.

It's isosceles due to having the hypotenese of the second triangle as both sides. Don't know why we suppose it's right.

I don't see how X (A) and Y (B) are 45°, if they are clearly shown to be distinct and lower than 45°. Z (C) is the only 45°, so the conclusion seems horribly wrong.
Let alone X! and Y! are not equal, so it can't be both the same.

They would be due to angles of same sides on a right triangle.

 

[AwkguyDB]

Anyway, just let me handle thing, and, 99% DBS gonna stay the way it is

It always was save just the cosmology

 

[MeiouHades]

I dont see the proposed isosceles right triangle.

See it now? Triangle ABC.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Why is C 90 degrees?

 

[ImmortalDread]

They would be due to angles of same sides on a right triangle.

Are you referring to X! and Y!? Because they are not the same.

 

[MeiouHades]

It's isosceles due to having the hypotenese of the second triangle as both sides. Don't know why we suppose it's right.

They would be due to angles of same sides on a right triangle.

No one’s saying they’re individually 45. What we’re saying is that their sum is equal to 45, and Z (C) is 45 already. So the total sum is 90

 

[Deagonx]

Why is C 90 degrees?

I think I get it now. It has to be 90 because it's the combination of both non-right angles of triangle Y.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Why is C 90 degrees?

It is not, it is 45° as we simply visually observe it.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Wait nvm, u meant other C.

 

[MeiouHades]

Why is C 90 degrees?

Here’s why:

 

[Damage3245]

Err guys, I hate to be a downer... but what does this have to do with Dragon Ball?

I don't think this thread should keep going off-topic with this tangent about triangles.

 

[Deagonx]

Brb opening "Trigonometry General Discussion."

 

[ZillertheBucko]

goku is a triangle, I’ll allow this.

 

[ImmortalDread]

So now I measured each of them in photoshop and I got 90°. Doubt your method is easier than measuring itself.

In other thought, C looks like 45°, B should be lowered, 30 or 25°, A 15°, so calculating the sum will be 90°

Brb opening "Trigonometry General Discussion."

Invite us, smh

Edit: I will drop it. I saw @Damage3245's warning.

 

[MeiouHades]

Err guys, I hate to be a downer... but what does this have to do with Dragon Ball?

I don't think this thread should keep going off-topic with this tangent about triangles.

Tien creates squares with triangles. It has everything to do with Dragon Ball.

 

[MeiouHades]

So, where’s the General Math Thread? It should be opened by calc group members if anything

 

[AwkguyDB]

Alright everybody stop being dingle berries for 5 seconds this is getting no where.

YES PROFILES NEED TO BE UPDATED

YES THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO

Instead I got kids moaning about unfair treatment from the mods making hundreds of low tier CRTs which just makes things worst

And mods who are too busy entertaining these dumb threads and completely ignoring the threads that can really improve the verse

Me
Null
omegabronic

Had to wait weeks for our threads to get passed with some of ours just straight up being lost in the ether while low tier downgrades/upgrades get far more support and attention at a quick consistent pace.

WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER MODS AND SUPPORTERS ALIKE!

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE VERSE TREATMENT SUPPORTERS FIX THE DAMN VERSE!

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE BACKLASH MODS HELP THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO FIX THE VERSE!

sorry not trying to be a troll or unruly but its annoying at this point.

 

[MeiouHades]

Alright everybody stop being dingle berries for 5 seconds this is getting no where.

YES PROFILES NEED TO BE UPDATED

YES THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT I AM TRYING TO DO

Instead I got kids moaning about unfair treatment from the mods making hundreds of low tier CRTs which just makes things worst

And mods who are too busy entertaining these dumb threads and completely ignoring the threads that can really improve the verse

Me
Null
omegabronic

Had to wait weeks for our threads to get passed with some of ours just straight up being lost in the ether while low tier downgrades/upgrades get far more support and attention at a quick consistent pace.

WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER MODS AND SUPPORTERS ALIKE!

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE VERSE TREATMENT SUPPORTERS FIX THE DAMN VERSE!

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE BACKLASH MODS HELP THOSE WHO ARE TRYING TO FIX THE VERSE!

sorry not trying to be a troll or unruly but its annoying at this point.

Disagree FRA. Cope

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Da Hope speech