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So its better to assume that Hashirama jumped twice, instead of that he only landed once we see him again? Why would he even jump another time, he has no reason to in order to drop his gates.
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Ok, so your idea is that Hashirama released his dragon?-like bindings off of Madara during or after the Rasenshuriken hit and activated the gates on top of Madara.Duedate8898 said:So its better to assume that Hashirama jumped twice, instead of that he only landed once we see him again? Why would he even jump another time, he has no reason to in order to drop his gates.
Duedate8898 said:@elixir
Hashirama only completed his fall after we see him again, so we know it wasn't that long of time frame in which we see the pair of them again. All the gates appearance does is imply that Hashirama can summon them to the battlefield at high speeds.
ElixirBlue said:Or Hashirama jumped.
Duedate8898 said:So its better to assume that Hashirama jumped twice, instead of that he only landed once we see him again? Why would he even jump another time, he has no reason to in order to drop his gates.
No, it was the abosrbing wood dragon wrapped around his body that was holding him in place. Also, why is that low 6-B? Didn't the deity gates hold down the ten tails, a High 6-A?ElixirBlue said:No, the gates were holding Madara down. That's why they were confident the Rasenshuriken would hit.
And yes, it was effortlessly. The time frame of Madara breaking the gates is a lllloooooooooootttttttttt shorter than the time frame of the Rasenshuriken hitting Madara and then the story coming back to Madara to see the results of the attack.
Hachibi is actually 6-C to Low 6-B, so Madara should get that too.OneBleachHurricane said:Question, where does the proposed High 6-C tier come from? Shouldn't it be just 6-C scaling from the Third Raikage and Hachibi if this upgrade were to be accepted?
Another question is about Madara breaking out of Hashirama's seal, is it PIS?
What recalculations?M3X said:Everything from this post is wrong. The current calculations aren't useful anymore due to the recalculations. We are already working in a new scaling for 80% of the cast
Maybe it got destroyed by the rasenshuriken, and then he summoned the gates. Honestly, the fact that Madara was trapped in the first place further proves that it wasn't a large timeframe. Cause if it was, Madara would've ran away before Hashirama trapped him.ElixirBlue said:Ok, so your idea is that Hashirama released his dragon?-like bindings off of Madara during or after the Rasenshuriken hit and activated the gates on top of Madara.
Then, if Madara tanked the hit, how come the visual jutsu ninja didn't avoid the gates? Or you are saying Edo Hashirama's speed is greater than Edo Madara's speed?
Yeah, he was waiting but getting sealed was still a risk for him. Is there evidence he could resist sealing in Edo form?ElixirBlue said:Sorry to interrupt but yes there is... Madara's plan was to wait until Rinne Tensei was used to bering him back to life. Look, what he said when Zetsu got to Obito. He said to Hashi "Now its my time to counterattack" with Hashi saying that the War was over.
Do any of you forget that Madara had impaled Hashi with black rods and could restrain him anytime?
X2GokuSparkle said:What recalculations?M3X said:Everything from this post is wrong. The current calculations aren't useful anymore due to the recalculations. We are already working in a new scaling for 80% of the cast
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2871598ElixirBlue said:Where does that resistance come from?
I mean he put the gates on top of him as the dragon was destroyed. Or Madara was held back enough by the explosion to not move.ElixirBlue said:But if Madara tanked it, he would have ran away before Hashirama threw a gate on him. There is no reason for Madara to sit there and potentially he let himself get sealed.
The only reason why he would still be there if he was busy regenerating.
There's evidence enough in the fact that Hashirama stated it didn't take him down.ElixirBlue said:But that's as much as an assumption as saying he had to stay still to regen.
There is evidence time past and for the scene not to instantly transition to not assume there wasn't enough time for Madara to regen.
This.GokuSparkle said:There's evidence enough in the fact that Hashirama stated it didn't take him down.ElixirBlue said:But that's as much as an assumption as saying he had to stay still to regen.
There is evidence time past and for the scene not to instantly transition to not assume there wasn't enough time for Madara to regen.
Not really. They have been refuted.Damage3245 said:I think the arguments so far have been sufficient against it.
That was Edo Madara, alive Madara is far stronger.TheFinalOrder said:Madara's durability can't be upgraded based on this one feat, which is plagued by assumptions. Fact of the matter is, we don't know how Madara wasn't taken down by the Chou-FRS as it's off screen. All Hashirama said was he managed to stop Madara's movements.
Any arguments for or against him tanking it is are thus unquantifiable unless there is evidence suggesting otherwise from other showings. Unlike the former, there are showings that suggest Madara didn't "tank it". Most Notably is Madara resorting to Preta path and considering A regular FRS a threat because it had too much energy: