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Akatsuki vs Eleven Supernovas

Then they can probably resist it.
they'd basically be playing tug of war with their soul like Naruto had to. it might be possible for people like Luffy or Zoro to put up good resistance if Nagato did it. If it's Obito, they'd probably just get hit with a TSO and get erased while trying to wrestle back their souls.
 
I'm curious which do you think does a better job of anticipating attacks, the 3T Sharingan or Intermediate Kenbun Haki?
3T Sharingan looks at muscle movements
Intermediate Kenbun reads your mind and sees what you're about to do
You tell me
 
3T Sharingan looks at muscle movements
Intermediate Kenbun reads your mind and sees what you're about to do
You tell me
Is there actually a source on the muscle movement thing?

It comes up a lot in these kind of debates, but I've never seen anyone produce a scan of such a statement, which is what led to the confusion around whether or not they show images of the future.
 
3T Sharingan looks at muscle movements
Intermediate Kenbun reads your mind and sees what you're about to do
You tell me
fair enough
Is there actually a source on the muscle movement thing?

It comes up a lot in these kind of debates, but I've never seen anyone produce a scan of such a statement, which is what led to the confusion around whether or not they show images of the future.
was looking around and just found it actually.
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Plus, even going by the muscle movement stuff, Sharingan sees on a cellular level. So they'd be predicting your movements by looking at the movement of your cells that make up your muscles... which is kinda cool ngl.
fair enough

was looking around and just found it actually.
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That's more talking about mimicry and illusions, not actual analytical prediction, right?

Specifically, Kakashi's mimicry was mostly just because he'd already seen the jutsu Zabuza was using.
 
tbh regardless of whether the Sharingan is precog or not. Itachi and Obito would still know if Law was planning to send people over via teleport, because with all of their conflicting personalities, he would need to explain the plan to them and the Sharingan can read lips and see through solid objects so they wouldn't have a way to effectively communicate a plan without one of those two knowing about it.
 
no it doesn't
read skypiea and the haki page
Plus, even going by the muscle movement stuff, Sharingan sees on a cellular level. So they'd be predicting your movements by looking at the movement of your cells that make up your muscles... which is kinda cool ngl.
Not how it works. It sees chakra on a cellular level, not everything else
That's more talking about mimicry and illusions, not actual analytical prediction, right?

Specifically, Kakashi's mimicry was mostly just because he'd already seen the jutsu Zabuza was using.
No, because he could predict the movements Zabuza was going to make and copied the hand seals
 
Not how it works. It sees chakra on a cellular level, not everything else
Plus, even going by the muscle movement stuff, Sharingan sees on a cellular level. So they'd be predicting your movements by looking at the movement of your cells that make up your muscles... which is kinda cool ngl.
The Sharingan also allows its user to focus their vision and act like a microscope, allowing it to see objects on a cellular level[23] and clearly perceive viruses

It can see things at a cellular level but only if the user is really focused in.
 
tbh regardless of whether the Sharingan is precog or not. Itachi and Obito would still know if Law was planning to send people over via teleport, because with all of their conflicting personalities, he would need to explain the plan to them and the Sharingan can read lips and see through solid objects so they wouldn't have a way to effectively communicate a plan without one of those two knowing about it.
If they can't make a effective plan without moving their lips, then yeah, Itachi and Obito will pick up on what they're doing and may make a effective countermeasure- Or at least have the chance to attempt to.
 
The Sharingan also allows its user to focus their vision and act like a microscope, allowing it to see objects on a cellular level[23] and clearly perceive viruses

It can see things at a cellular level but only if the user is really focused in.
nvm
If they can't make a effective plan without moving their lips, then yeah, Itachi and Obito will pick up on what they're doing and may make a effective countermeasure- Or at least have the chance to attempt to.
Luffy can speak from his brain and let others hear him with Voice of All Things
Plus they can read each others' actions and work from there

Also, they can do the same thing to the other side
 
Luffy can speak from his brain and let others hear him with Voice of All Things
Plus they can read each others' actions and work from there
Do we know if Luffy has full control over that yet?
Also, they can do the same thing to the other side
The Akatsuki already know each other and work together well enough to form a plan without as many words if any. The SN would need Law to make them fight more cooperatively since a lot of them have their rivalries and are even willing to withhold each other's abilities from their allies mid-fight,

btw who do you think wins?
 
Wtf is Genjutsu
Illusions basically.

Itachi and Obito are their main Genjutsu people here.

For one of Itachi's Tsukuyomi, if you look into his eyes or at his finger when he points at the ground you're instantly placed into an illusion world where Itachi controls your perception of time and space and can make you deal with excruciating pain for as long as he wants but it all lasts a second in the real world.

And we've even seen Obito basically brainwash someone with high resistance for years.

Itachi almost always leads with genjutsu so if the fight starts and anyone looks at him it might be GG for them

They can also use it in more subtle ways to mess with your senses and perception of reality like making you think you dodged an attack when you really didn't or theoretically get them to stand in seawater by making them perceive it as dry land.
 
Illusions basically.

Itachi and Obito are their main Genjutsu people here.

For one of Itachi's Tsukuyomi, if you look into his eyes or at his finger when he points at the ground you're instantly placed into an illusion world where Itachi controls your perception of time and space and can make you deal with excruciating pain for as long as he wants but it all lasts a second in the real world.

And we've even seen Obito basically brainwash someone with high resistance for years.

Itachi almost always leads with genjutsu so if the fight starts and anyone looks at him it might be GG for them

They can also use it in more subtle ways to mess with your senses and perception of reality like making you think you dodged an attack when you really didn't
Starting to sound like a Fujitora victim to me..
 
Certain other genjutsu can be cast if you hear them and affect other senses besides vision. I don't remember if Itachi has one like that or if Tsukyomi does that .
He has Ephemeral, but that one is nowhere near Tsukoyomi in terms of layers or potency.
 
Akainu >>>>>

I suppose everyone above Sickbeard is 5-B now, if we take hyperbole at face value?
Well its proved some of its statements such as burning fire itself and the highest possible temperature of fire on earth is 3,400 degrees, magma is 2,700 degrees, while the heat of the surface of the sun is 10,340 degrees, the Heat required to melt steel is around 2,500 , but what he did when he destroyed shin's metal with Amaterasu was far beyond mere "melting", besides Kashin koji "True flames of Samadhi" are so hot they cause combustion and prevent regenerative abilities while also inextinguishable and the required temperature for combustion to take place in oxygen(air) is at least 2,770(which is already hotter than magma), and Amaterasu scales above it being the '' Highest level of flame release" , so no the surface of the sun heat doesn't sound like an hyperbole since there are feats that back it up . Amaterasu >>>>>>>>>>> , Sick beard is different he has no feats to backup his statements when even his prime state along with characters comparable to him don't show anything close to that.
 
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I fail to see why you even mentioned whitebeard, just did so for a reaction

They're accepted to scale to the heat of the surface

Akainu scales higher on our wiki
 
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