Ainz vs Madara

[Parkjammer]

I'd check again, but I didn't see anyone else vote decisively @PaChi2

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@William Shrekspire

Duude,Limbo exists in another dimension,it is already proven,it can not be affected by ordinary time stop,stop repeating the same debunked argument.

"Ainz can erase all visual and non-visual traces of himself."

Madara has cross dimensiona-sense and can see invisible things in another plane of existance.

 

[PaChi2]

Did anyone bring a counter for Despair Aura V?

 

[Belyompusct]

Ainz 3
Incon: 4

Madara 0

Is this okay? @Park

For Ainz voted 3 people, including me.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Parkjammer

Ainz uses grasp heart in character wich affects organs.He uses it and fails cause Madara's Regenerationn,then Madara one shots with Limbo.

 

[Parkjammer]

Don't forget Mand21's vote. I didn't know for sure if you were voting ainz willaim. That is 4 votes for Ainz

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@PaChi2

His first move is Grasp Heart.

 

[Parkjammer]

@Parkjammer
Ainz uses grasp heart in character wich affects organs.He uses it and fails cause Madara's Regenerationn,then Madara one shots with Limbo.

Heart Grasp is aesthetically pleasing instant-death magic. He doesn't actually grasp their hearts. Otherwise he would have had to grasp a giant dragon's heart, etc which doesn't make any sense.

 

[Parkjammer]

@Dzhindzholia Despair Aura V is passive, and will also instant-kill Madara if Madara gets anywhere near him

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

there are tw ways I see this going:

1 Madara summons limbo and they oneshot, then ainz ressurects and they oneshot again over and over, especialy with precognition.

2 Ainz uses hearth grasp, stuns madara, realizes he is actualy strong and either time freezes and/or death haxes

 

[PaChi2]

Just asking:

Ainz starts with Grasp heart --> fails.

Madara gets stunned

Ainz proceeds to timestop and try true death or black hole

 

[Konaguna]

I also voted Ainz

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Madara one shots with Limbo while being stunned or time stopped.

 

[PaChi2]

Madara one shots with Limbo while being stunned or time stopped.

Ainz can resurrect once.

also the limbo clone must cross the distance before timestop hapoens. Limbo isnt instantaneous.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yes, either that or madara summons limbo before that, which proceed to oneshot eithe before or right after hearth grasp, thus allowing madara to snap out of it at wich point ainz might time stop, but would still die to limbo clones eventualy

 

[Parkjammer]

Okay that's 5 for Ainz right now

Also Grasp heart shouldn't fail, Madara has no instant-death countermeasures

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It works by crushing someones hearth, not by manipulating death.

Its instadeath effects are due to game mechanics, as sheer level could counter it even whiteout resistance

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@PaChi2

Ainz's time stop can not affect Limbo.

 

[Parkjammer]

Ainz's time stop will affect Limbo clones

 

[PaChi2]

@PaChi2

Ainz's time stop can not affect Limbo.

Why.

Like. Seriously, you need to proof this.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

f it will or not does not matter, the moment the time stop ends they proceed to kill him, over and over till he dies for good

 

[Parkjammer]

hearth grasp stuns him and ainz death haxes

Ricsi, the move itself doesn't actually crush the person's heart. It is instant-death magic.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Because they exist in a different realm/dimension,you can not stop something that is not in this world.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Ricsi, the move itself doesn't actually crush the person's heart. It is instant-death magic.

Its definition on ainz page disagrees, make a crt

 

[Mand21]

Limbo might be in another dimension, but it is still connected to and synchronized with our timespace in several levels. Timestopping will affect it.

 

[PaChi2]

Because they exist in a different realm/dimension,you can not stop something that is not in this world.

They interact with this space time and must go back to madara after certain time, they are affected by time. They get timestoped

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Ricsi, the move itself doesn't actually crush the person's heart. It is instant-death magic.

Grasp Heart: A 9th-tier spell that allows Ainz to remotely grab the heart (or whatever equivalent organ) of an enemy, and crush it, killing them instantly.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Ainz FRA

Someone count the votes

 

[PaChi2]

6 for Ainz

4 for Incon

0 for Madara

 

[Parkjammer]

You made me pull the actual text, so here you go:

"This spell was one that crushed a foe's heart, and among the ten tiers of spells, it was an instant death spell of the Ninth Tier. Many of the necromantic spells which Momonga was adept with possessed instant death properties, and this was one of them."

It is an instant death spell, which madara has no counter for

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@PaChi2

They stated to be in a different dimension,they can affect the world while not being in it.

Example:When Naruto clashed with Limbo Sasuke threw his sword at it and the sword just went threw it while it was interacting with Naruto.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

yes, properties, not the actual thing. But again, make a crt.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

@Parkjammer

This is not Grasp Heart.

 

[PaChi2]

@PaChi2

They stated to be in a different dimension,they can affect the world while not being in it.

Example:When Naruto clashed with Limbo Sasuke threw his sword at it and the sword just went threw it while it was interacting with Naruto.

Again, they are affected by the main timeline's time. They must return to madara after certain time has passed. They can be timestopped unless you can prove that they act outside of time.

 

[Parkjammer]

@Dzhindzholia

What do you mean? That is the actual definition for grasp heart after he uses it for the first time

 

[PaChi2]

Btw @Ricsi this is offtopic, but: are you hyped for The Gamer's next chapter tomorrow?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

it is already up in the korean one, but I really do wish to read the english version, yes

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I gave you the actual text definition, which should take priority over the vsbattle's incomplete definitio


The textbook definition says that it has the properties of one, and its a rule to only use stuff on the wiki.

 

[PaChi2]

it is already up in the korean one, but I really do wish to read theenglish version, yes

Yes, I know its already in korean, but... well, I dont speak korean...

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

there is a translation here