Adventure Time Primal Monster Physiology

[Sasukesama0492]

Sasukesama0492/Primal Creature Physiology (Adventure Time)

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Affected characters: (Lich,Orgalorg,Hunson,Coconteppi,GOLB)

In Season 6, Episode 43, the Catalyzer comet said: "I've been around forever",which means that Catalyzer comets existed before Time and Nothingness, and Orgalorg wants the power of the comet and the Knowledge of the comet to make him unstoppable. Why would Orgalorg, who existed even in the Void, want the knowledge of a being that existed long after him, this proves that the comet is a primitive creature, once upon a time the Lich came to earth as the Catalyzer comet and destroyed the Dinosaurs, also the Lich cannot be so knowledgeable about primordials, there is nothing about primordials in the Enchiridion, and even if there was, it would be illogical for the Lich to sit and read a book because he has a goal of destroying the multiverse

 

[Sasukesama0492]

Bump

 

[Zabazab]

Neither the Lich nor Hunson are Primordial Monsters.

The Lich is between 66 million and 1000 years old. Hunson's writings about his earliest menories suggest he was born in the nothingness before the big bang, rather than the age of Primordial Monsters that predated the nothingness.

Both are too young to be Primordial Monsters.

 

[Sasukesama0492]

Neither the Lich nor Hunson are Primordial Monsters.

The Lich is between 66 million and 1000 years old. Hunson's writings about his earliest menories suggest he was born in the nothingness before the big bang, rather than the age of Primordial Monsters that predated the nothingness.

Both are too young to be Primordial Monsters.

Even if they are not primordial creatures, they have been in the Void like the Primordials, I still think they will get the same haxs

 

[Sasukesama0492]

And hunson explicitly said he came from nothing in the encyclopedia.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

BDE for creatures weakened by gravity

 

[Damage3245]

I don't think there are enough characters to justify a page for this.

 

[Sasukesama0492]

I don't think there are enough characters to justify a page for this.

Okay, so what do you think about the Haxs?

 

[Sasukesama0492]

BDE for creatures weakened by gravity

?

 

[Aolphl]

I don't think there are enough characters to justify a page for this.

There are at least 100 of them, they are likely to appear in the continuation of the series, so this page is necessary.
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Anyway I agree everyting

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

?

 

[Damage3245]

There are at least 100 of them, they are likely to appear in the continuation of the series, so this page is necessary.
.
Anyway I agree everyting

By "not enough characters" I mean "not enough characters with profiles".

 

[Sasukesama0492]

By "not enough characters" I mean "not enough characters with profiles".

Okay, so what do you think about the Haxs?

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

looks fine

 

[Benimōru]

There is not enough context for Acausality. Things like pre-causal existence alone are not enough. Because there is still no evidence that he is independent of causality even after it exists. The same goes for pre-existence before time. Just because you existed before time doesn't mean that when time exists you will lack of it.

I also disagree with BDE Type 1. We don't treat voids as fundamentally lacking spatiotemporal features.

I can't see any scan for the immortality part.

No opinion on the Self-Sustenance stuff

I don't understand exactly where in the part you used for NEP it says that they exist in a state different from existence and non-existence. Tho this is not Nature type 3 anyway. For that you need to be in a state of existence and non-existence at the same time.

No opinion about EE and Deconstruction

The concepts of nothingness and non-existence are not dualities in themselves. If you are going to try something with these concepts, you have to try it as existence and non-existence. And again, as I said, just because you exist before something does not mean that you will always lack it.

 

[Sasukesama0492]

I also disagree with BDE Type 1. We don't treat voids as fundamentally lacking spatiotemporal features.

There is a character who already has BDE 1 for this reason ( The overvorld)

 

[KingTempest]

Sandbox looks perfectly fine. I've already seen it prior so I can agree to it.

Is it needed is debatable.

 

[Sasukesama0492]

Bump

 

[Georredannea15]

Well, the sandbox seems good for me.

Yes, I can understand Benimoru's concern about type 4 Acausality, but since the laws already exist with existence itself in this verse, a character that exists before it can basically be considered independent of it. We do this with type 1 concepts as well.

Apart from this, type 3 NEP is given because it is between existence and non-existence and because it exists and is in non-existence at the same time (another reason for ND type 1).


It's just like being between 1 and 0, but also being both 1 and 0.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Hmmm, I guess this stuff looks alright though some of these abilities I don't know very well. I don't know existing before everything would grant a few of this stuff automatically. An example, Self Sustenance Type 1 is fine since logically the void shouldn't have oxygen, however we don't know what these monsters used as food to survive, they could have eaten each other or have a different resource that acts as a replacement. However, I guess that would fall under having too many assumptions on my part so all in all I don't have much in the way of disagreement.

 

[Sasukesama0492]

Sandbox looks perfectly fine. I've already seen it prior so I can agree to it.

Is it needed is debatable.

Can you close this?

 

[KingTempest]

Can you close this?

Not at enough evaluations tbh

Edit: nvm. Closing