Adding Boboiboy Ability and Tier Upgrade

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Well the thing is, the calc group members disagreed with him and much preferred the sketch. 2 calc members, not just one. So his way on the matter holds even less weight and his arguments about large size type 3 and 4 as stated below:

They disagreed with the basic question I asked. I brought up none of these next points to them because it's hard to comment on mobile

You can still see the width of the tornado and there are blue lines coming from the sides of it that travel back to Retakka, so it clearly doesn't have a width that stretches out kilometres. And this tornado is also clearly a lot thinner and cylindrical compared to the ones that you calced

it's not like all tornadoes are necessarily the same size

And I've already addressed that while the true base and height of the tornado isn't fully shown, the size of its width compared to Retakka is very clearly shown

 

[DigDig09]

They disagreed with the basic question I asked. I brought up none of these next points to them because it's hard to comment on mobile

You just want to disagree with the tornado and sea of clouds part not even that type 3 and 4 you just made up. Beside, you the one that say too used tornado as low end and sea of clouds for high end. Sage already deliver the calc you want. Honestly that should be the end of the debate.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

You just want to disagree with the tornado and sea of clouds part not even that type 3 and 4 you just made up.

My point with Large Size is that Retakka would be get that if the width of the tornado he was right next to was as big as the calc suggests

Beside, you the one that say too used tornado as low end and sea of clouds for high end. Sage already deliver the calc you want. Honestly that should be the end of the debate.

I expected the movie images of Retakka absorbing tornadoes to be used, not a sketch of ones that I don't even think are shown in the movie image of the planet

But whatever, let's just see what the other staff think

 

[DigDig09]

My point with Large Size is that Retakka would be get that if the width of the tornado he was right next to was as big as the calc suggests

I expected the movie images of Retakka absorbing tornadoes to be used, not a sketch of ones that I don't even think are shown in the movie image of the planet

But whatever, let's just see what the other staff think

Yeah I also waiting for their input for this so it can end sooner.

 

[DigDig09]

Slightly higher minor bump

In dire need of other staff input

 

[Greatsage13th]

Look, Yaya, Ying and Fang harming Retakka in their base states should just taken with a grain of salt. They are outliers. Besides Retakka with a miniscule fraction of gamma already oneshotted the main cast prior. So this shouldn't be a issue.

 

[DigDig09]

At this point we should come to conclusion already...

 

[DigDig09]

If you could get some staff to come that would be great.

 

[Lonkitt]

I'm in favour of Marvel Champion's conclusions

 

[DigDig09]

I'm in favour of Marvel Champion's conclusions

What should we do about the calc then? Make it an outlier?

 

[Lonkitt]

That seems to be the case. At least for now. Things like this may change depending on what happens

 

[Greatsage13th]

I'm in favour of Marvel Champion's conclusions

His main argument is based around this scene:



But that is an outlier on their part when he oneshotted them prior to the second confrontation in a weaker state:



To quote Vegeta

 

[Greatsage13th]

His main argument is based around this scene:



But that is an outlier on their part when he oneshotted them prior to the second confrontation in a weaker state:



To quote Vegeta

That seems to be the case. At least for now. Things like this may change depending on what happens

 

[Lonkitt]

His main argument is based around this scene:



But that is an outlier on their part when he oneshotted them prior to the second confrontation in a weaker state:



To quote Vegeta

Isn’t he consistently meant to be portrayed as stronger than them?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

His main argument is based around this scene

Literally haven't brought it up in any of my most recent replies

 

[Greatsage13th]

Isn’t he consistently meant to be portrayed as stronger than them?

Yes, that's why the feat where they knocked him out of his Voltra elemental form is an outlier and PIS to begin with.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Literally haven't brought it up in any of my most recent replies

Yes. You. Did.

This too along with it:

 

[Greatsage13th]

These 2 scenes are just PIS at its core following a certain narrative. It doesn't debunk the calcs as outliers.

 

[Greatsage13th]

In addition to that, Mr.Bambu regarded what was said prior slander.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Yes. You. Did.

Literally haven't brought it up in any of my most recent replies

This too along with it:

Cool, three feats of the main cast harming Retakka vs one feat of Retakka one-shotting the main cast

 

[Lonkitt]

Technically one of them isn’t really him being harmed by them. When the dust clears, he gets up with a pretty confident expression

 

[Greatsage13th]

This entire second page of the CRT, I haven't brought it up once

Cool, two feats of the main cast harming Retakka vs one feat of Retakka one-shotting the main cast

harming and one-shotting are nowhere comparable to each other.

 

[Greatsage13th]

Technically one of them isn’t really him being harmed by them. When the dust clears, he gets up with a pretty confident expression

Exactly! but marvel insisted that he was harmed by it few days ago.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Technically one of them isn’t really him being harmed by them. When the dust clears, he gets up with a pretty confident expression

He was rubbing the side of his face and knocked out of his Voltra form, which often happens when the elemental user receives significant enough damage

 

[Dereck03]

Can i get a TL; DR of the entire discussion?

 

[DigDig09]

Can i get a TL; DR of the entire discussion?

What you mean by DR dereck?

 

[Dereck03]

What you mean by DR dereck?

A summary of the discussion that seems to happen.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

A summary of the discussion that seems to happen.

Basically whether or not to use the calcs linked in the OP. I've already brought up my current views on it earlier in this page

 

[DigDig09]

A summary of the discussion that seems to happen.

Ohh alright then.

Basically whether or not to use the calcs linked in the OP. I've already brought up my current views on it earlier in this page

Yup that basically it, Also, me and GreatSage believe that the calc aren't outlier so it should be added in the profile.

 

[DigDig09]

Maybe we can continues this tomorrow? Seen in this part of the world it already past midnight.

 

[DigDig09]

A summary of the discussion that seems to happen.

So what do you think dereck?

 

[Greatsage13th]

I'll write a summary later or a lot later depending on when I have my laptop.

 

[Dereck03]

Skimmed through the discussion, I'm in agreement with the calcs being usable.

 

[DigDig09]

I'll write a summary later or a lot later depending on when I have my laptop.

Nice new laptop or what?

 

[DigDig09]

Skimmed through the discussion, I'm in agreement with the calcs being usable.

Alrighty

 

[Greatsage13th]

Skimmed through the discussion, I'm in agreement with the calcs being usable.

Greato

 

[DigDig09]

Technically one of them isn’t really him being harmed by them. When the dust clears, he gets up with a pretty confident expression

So what your stands Lonkitt? Neutral?

 

[Lonkitt]

I'll go with neutral, since while I am not denying either side of their points, I am uninformed about the verse in-depth as opposed to the users in this thread

 

[DigDig09]

I'll go with neutral, since while I am not denying either side of their points, I am uninformed about the verse in-depth as opposed to the users in this thread

Alright then. Someone give money to Lonkitt plz

 

[DigDig09]

I was asked to try and resolve this conundrum. You think these high calcs are outliers, correct?

Lephyr what your opinion? Can we uses the calc because it already been accepted.