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I would also like to point out that Kasa amped himself with BoBoiBoy's quake element prior to the fight so we wasn't totally outmatched.
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Adding Boboiboy Ability and Tier Upgrade
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Yaya and Fang's attack knocked him out of Voltra and he was wiping the side of his face where he was punched. Heck, they technically did more damage than when using ArmoBot
You can hear a very clear yell when Yaya uppercutted him into the air. She clearly harmed him to some degree
Hang Kasa was taking back the element that he almost entirely lost. Quake and Crystal fall under the same category of element, just that BBB only unlocked Quake but Crystal was still locked
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I asked @Sir_Ovens to give input. Let's wait for his response
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Let's be honest. This is starting to enter the same scaling chain issues like One Piece.
How about putting those as outliers. Giving Hang Kasa and armobot amps "at most" and give BoBoiBoy and Retakka solid high 6-A.
I know
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Yeah if not this gonna be full on debate.
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That gonna take a while for SirOvens to respond
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I would also like to point out Retakka had a Zettaton feat via planetary absorbing of rimbara.
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If it was just one feat, then sure. But the fact that there are two of them makes me iffy
I only see the 7-A and High 6-A calcs accepted by M3X
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You wouldn't really call hang kasa an outlier tho tbh with you.
As in you can find biomass absorbtion feats of earth sized planets done already and they all come at a few Zettatons
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Hang Kasa's only feats and scaling come from Retakka, so of course it can't be an outlier
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So it should be Boboiboy, Retakka and Hang Kasa who get High 6-A.
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It could be because he did that on purpose just to transform into balak from a time economic standpoint. Also the scene at the very end of the movie was after he had been significantly depowered by ochobot's power absorbtion.
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They not really defeat him more to helping Boboiboy. You say it yourself "knock him out of his form". At that time, Ying use her slowmo power so Yaya have the chance to knock him in the air. His element also got absord by ochobot at that time. In the end, Boboiboy the one that did most of the damage and ultimately defeat Retakka in that final fight. So they should be put "at most" or lower than the 3 of them.
Beside, M3X already say it fine to use H6-A so it should be implement. Even if you feel iffy about it.
Beside, M3X already say it fine to use H6-A so it should be implement. Even if you feel iffy about it.
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Ying was being attacked and outsped by Retakka before Yaya and Fang came in to punch him out of his Voltra form
Slow-mo doesn't decrease Retakka's durability
Only Crystal
Never denied this. Though this was via his fusions only
M3X just accepted the calc's math. What I'm iffy about is the fact that there aren't any other accepted calcs on that level
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oof. god damnit.
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I did not calculate the thunderstorm rather the byproduct of the thunderstorm.
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- Where is it said that the towers contain energy from the thunderstorm?
- Why assume a timeframe from when humans began to evolve?
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Because Retakka absorbed the energies from those batteries.
It's a logical assumption
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Doesn't mean they contain energy from the thunderstorm. Unless there's something I'm missing, all I can tell is that the batteries just contain electrical energy, no relation to the storm is ever stated or implied
What logic?
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Essentially, the towers you told me about are just rods used to gather energy from the ceaseless storm covering half of the planet. Otherwise the movie wouldn't refer to planer Gur'latan as "Pusat Tenaga Electric" essentially the Center of Electrical Energy.
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Or they could be something else entirely. We have practically zero canon information about those towers or what they do, just that Retak'ka absorbed electrical energy from them.
It can still be called that without those towers drawing energy from the storm
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Occam's razor says otherwise. Simplify the stuff instead of overcomplicating it. Besides compared we have a bigger outlier compared to High 6-A Boboiboy
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Look, if it really comes down to it. We could just scale Boboiboy and Retakka to High 6-A and no one else to it.
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By making up information that isn't stated anywhere in canon
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Occam's razor is not defined as making stuff up. It's defined as choosing the easiest and most obvious straightforward option.
If for example there was a powerstation located in a dam. By Occam's razor, it suggests it uses water currents to generate electricity. We wouldn't say it uses fossil fuels to generate electricity just because it doesn't specify what kind of power station it is.
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Which in this case is making up info about the towers that the actual movie itself never ever stated
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You'll need evidence that proves otherwise.
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You'll need to provide actual explicit canon information that the towers are what you say they are
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You don't need to when its something very clear-cut. Why you of all people would be facing this problem?
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If absorbing the energy of one forest that barely did anything to the planet gave Retak'ka Darkwood a noticeable power boost, I don't see how the energy that Retak'ka Voltra absorbed could be that much greater when Hang Kasa held his own against the latter and survived a giant hammer swing from the former while already damaged
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It's a common thing in fiction where something that yields less in calculations would overpower something that yields more. For example the 6-C calc for boboiboy assumes that the glacier and the meteor are equal despite the fact that the glacier yields less energy compared to the meteor.
We can't really expect them to follow the laws of physics all the time.
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Because the meteor and iceberg comes from BBB's own powers and the attacks are clearly depicted as comparable to each other. Voltra and Darkwood are taking energy from outside sources, so I'm not buying that Darkwood could absorb similar High 6-A levels of energy but only from one forest and not do anything to the rest of the planet
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I...already disagreed with the 5-B via balak absorption just now.
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Not 5-B. I'm saying that Voltra and Darkwood are clearly still comparable to each other even after absorbing elemental energies, but the latter absorbing high 6-A levels would suggest that Darkwood is absorbing that level of energy too, especially given that the power boost is much more noticeable and blatantly shown for the latter. Except that the power boost only drained one forest and hardly affected the planet
But whatever. At this point, I'm too tired to continue arguing and I feel like I might be getting delirious. I'll just say I'm neutral, leaning to disagree
I'm perfectly fine with the volcano calc, though, and upscaling some characters like Kaizo to Mountain level+
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