Accelerator vs Mami Tomoe

[SchroKatze]

What would happen if the ribbon came out from literally beneath his feet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FBONRf_bfI&t=88s

 

[Dragopentling]

OOOOHH baby!

I was gonna start a versus thread of my own with this one, but I guess I'll set up a Ryuko vs Accelerator one a bit later, then....maybe?

Anyways, one question: Are they in-character or bloodlusted?

Considering this is Post Headshot Accelerator, who is actually weaker than his Pre Headshot version, I don't see this going in his favor that easily, considering how limited his abilities are now compared to his previous self. I do think Pre Headshot Accel will give Mami a hard time, but considered Mami literally has "Unlimited Rifle Works" (or "Gate of Ammunition"), I don't see him holding out for very long, so as mentioned above, he'd have to end it up quickly, but Mami is known for stall battles. Also, there's the ribbons, which I'm pretty sure aren't going to be reflected that easily. I don't remember when Mami gets Power Null, though....I think it was from the ribbons?

P.S. I'm only try to analyze here from what I saw in the anime adaptations from their respective series. I have scarce knowledge when it comes to manga/LN sources.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Given how limited his abilities are

How? Nothing changes from his post and pre headshot but his time limit

And the ribbons won't be reflected why?

 

[Dragopentling]

<Given how limited his abilities are
How? Nothing changes from his post and pre headshot but his time limit

And the ribbons won't be reflected why?

<Nothing changes from his post and pre headshot but his time limit

The profile says that his pre-headshot version is "at least twice as strong" as his post-headshot version. Is this really based ONLY on his time limit?

<The ribbons won't be reflected.

So you're saying that it'll reflect and wrap up Mami instead, or they'll just simply fail to bind him?

Also, my first question wasn't answered: are they in-character or bloodlusted?

I just want the answers before I cast my vote

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

They're in-character.

 

[Schnee_One]

It'll simply fail

2x stronger is AP based, not ability based

 

[Dragopentling]

They're in-character.

Mami tends to go into frozen panic mode if I can recall, when things don't go according to expectations. So I wonder about the magnitude of surprise it'll be when she sees the first shot being rejected.

 

[Dragopentling]

It'll simply fail
2x stronger is AP based, not ability based

ahh okay, I see.

If that's the case, I feel like this is pretty much a STOMP, cause there won't be much that Mami can do, if at all, to Post-Headshot Accel if he can KO her within the time limit, which I think he most definitely can if the ribbons don't work, either. Mami's usage of ribbons from what I saw the Rebellion movie will be pretty much a slight delay at best (if she can pull it off at all during the match)

STOMP or not, though, I'm casting my vote for Accel here.

 

[Schnee_One]

Err

Why is Mami suddenly useless without ribbons?

 

[Dragopentling]

Err
Why is Mami suddenly useless without ribbons?

Wait, didn't you say earlier they'll just get reflected like with the case of Misaka's mine back in Railgun S? You have me confused.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yes?

You're not exactly saying why Accelerator wins, just why he survives

 

[Dragopentling]

I'm not trying to say that she's useless with ribbons, unless I worded that wrong or you misinterpreted my point.

I'm just saying that even with the abilities she has in Base form, INCLUDING the ribbons, she's less likely to beat Post Headshot Accel in SBA because of his Vector Manipulation still being potent, but with, like you just stated, a time limit. Yes, there's the stall war possibility, but is that more likely to happen before Accel basically one-shots Mami with her own attack?

I'm just trying to clear things up here :\

 

[Dragopentling]

Yes?
You're not exactly saying why Accelerator wins, just why he survives

Wasn't that already stated above by other people, or was it not a good enough explanation to you?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Can I see footage of these ribbons in action, like how do thy have power nulling and invisibility?

 

[Dragopentling]

Can I see footage of these ribbons in action, like how do thy have power nulling and invisibility?

Here ya go....one of my favorite scenes from that masterful film. There's other instances of ribbon usage from the main series, but this should be good enough for now.

https://youtu.be/-f4clXg9n-U?t=23

 

[Schnee_One]

So you're saying Accel kills her first because of vector manipulation

How is the question

 

[Dragopentling]

So you're saying Accel kills her first because of vector manipulation
How is the question

You know what? I take it back. I looked again at the comments above and then at her profile.....Mami has Reality Warping or Manipulation even in Base form. Or is that a listing error?

 

[Schnee_One]

She doesn't

There's a dash directly before that

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Her forcefields might prove useful here, can I see footage of it?

 

[Dragopentling]

She doesn't
There's a dash directly before that

oh okay, my bad.

well, now I can't even pick a side. Either Accel managed to reflect an attack and one shot Mami, or Mami stalls him until his timer is up, and rest is history.

I'm banking on Inconclusive here for now.

 

[ShiroEinzbern]

I'm going for incon for now too

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Screw it, Incon FRA.

 

[ShiroEinzbern]

hmmmm, granted that Mami's Ribbon trap is invi and Accel's Vector Shield hasn't probably listed or block the existence of the said ribbons, would he notice and decode it right away before all the ribbons appear before he gets killed?

 

[Schnee_One]

Why does he need to notice it?

He's not the one doing the vectors, his Choker is

"Hasn't probably listed or block said ribbons"

Dude has, at the very least, High 6A Durability with the shield, and can block out literal light.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Just remember that Mami bullets can acutally bypass barrier/shield.

But considering Accel's "shield" does not has any form, not sure how the bullets would interract with the "shield".

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Do these ribbons null magical abilities only, or do they actually null all powers?

 

[Schnee_One]

Regardless of whether they do or not, don't think Accels shield will let them go through

 

[SchroKatze]

Accel's shield isn't a real shield. Is a "reversing field" it isn't blocking, it is directly manipulating the direction of the attack, reversing it. Also, Accel got some wird thing in the last volume, which can make him stomp her here. Her ribbons are less "magical" than the magic he had reflected. She is definitely going to panic once her first bullets just rips right through her body.

 

[Kaltias]

She can like, dodge

 

[Schnee_One]

<Rips through her body

Dodges. Blocks. Shields etc etc etc....

 

[SchroKatze]

She isn't expecting her attack to just bounce back

 

[Kaltias]

She sees it coming from 4 km away though.

 

[Schnee_One]

And?

She just goes "Oh a shield" and dodges

A reflecting bullet is still a bullet, from a 4KM distance no less

 

[SchroKatze]

>Within the range of the characters

Thats SBA afaik. No "its always 4 km".

 

[Schnee_One]

I mean

The range makes it that far

 

[SchroKatze]

Range: A few dozen meters with firearms and standard vector attacks, several kilometers with Air Manipulation (Can manipulate the air across Academy City), one planetary diameter when using the Earth's energy and rotation. Varies with what vector he comes in contact with


nah. A few dozen meters at best.

 

[Schnee_One]

I feel like there's 2 characters in a versus match correct me if Im wrong.

 

[Kaltias]

One planetary diameter is > 4 km

 

[SchroKatze]

SBA makes both of them inside the range of each other's standard attacks. Accel has the shortest range, so Mami will not start 4km away.

 

[SchroKatze]

One planetary diameter is > 4 km

One attack =/= Standard range.