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I already addressed that in the OP. "Temporal Dimensions" here is referring to alternate timelines which branch off of a main universe, this feat is 2-A.
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About the Star Maker
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I mean the infinite system of spatial relations quote still seems High 1-B
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Huh? So I guess I wasn't lowballing it after all.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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Damn thats in intense downgrade.
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Well according to Ultima Low 1-C is a minimum
Which still ain't bad
Which still ain't bad
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And then he said this.Ultima Reality said:
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He's saying that feat in particular is only 2-A, since he also has feats of creating universes with multiple temporal dimensions
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And now he said the "temporal dimensions" are just alternate timelines.
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The feat where he creates universes with multiple temporal dimensions is a different feat from this one.
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Oh so Low 1-C?
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I'm not familiar with the verse beyond what I've read in this thread, so I can't confidently suggest new ratings. However, Ultima has said there's a valid Low 1-C feat which seems reliable after clarification was given. In summary, probably downgrade to Low 1-C but I'd like Ultima's/Udl's final thoughts on the subject before we apply anything.
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I actually want Matt's input before this is concluded, as he apparently is a fan
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What do we think is a reference for saying outerverse? Since the mathematical verses that Stapledon wrote, we know that those are 1-A just because the "inhabitants" of said cosmoses don't need space not time. When we think about a dimension, do we interpret it as another way of movement, physics on board or just something that allows us for measure something? Like I said before, cosmos eventually got at its peak, then another cosmos comes and becomes more complex than the previous one. When you trascend dimensions you are a complex "life" form, but what is complex, we may ask ourselves. That's the part that philosophy takes part in the question and becomes more interesting to debate.
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so has this concluded?
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No - and now with the revisions to the higher echleons of the tiering system, The Star Maker's fate is more capricious.
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Revisions are over so bumpWarren Valion said:
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Bumping this.
As for the tiering of the Star Maker, I'd say he is still "At least Low 1-C, likely far higher", given he created universes with three temporal dimensions instead of spatial ones, and while he admitedly never showcases the ability to create one with three spatial dimensions and three temporal ones, I wouldn't consider this too far-fetched, given how he continuously creates increasingly complex cosmoses until the Ultimate Cosmos is formed, and is overall portrayed as an ultimate creative power only limited by Logic itself throughout the story as a whole, so, yeah.
As for the tiering of the Star Maker, I'd say he is still "At least Low 1-C, likely far higher", given he created universes with three temporal dimensions instead of spatial ones, and while he admitedly never showcases the ability to create one with three spatial dimensions and three temporal ones, I wouldn't consider this too far-fetched, given how he continuously creates increasingly complex cosmoses until the Ultimate Cosmos is formed, and is overall portrayed as an ultimate creative power only limited by Logic itself throughout the story as a whole, so, yeah.
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That seems fair.
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However, somebody should first ask Sandman31 to comment here, as he created the page:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Sandman31
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Sandman31
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Please, don't close this.
Wait for @Sandman31's reply
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