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Can you post the quote for Anakin "channelling the entirety of the Force?" Because if that quote is what I think it is I believe you might be misinterpreting its' meaning.Matthew Schroeder said:It's been confirmed on guidebooks that they are what cause the entirety of the Force of the universe to channel through Mortis, Daughter + Son took blows from Anakin channeling the entirety of the Force, and it's been said that they could destroy the universe.
So should we close this thread?The Everlasting said:@Everyone
This will all be more comprehensively covered in a new thread.
The Son and Daughter's fighting causing the place where they're fighting to become a focal point for the universe's Force energy to flow through is a pretty solid showing, but it's not really applicable to the energy they themselves are capable of summoning.Matthew Schroeder said::Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Ahsoka Tano investigated the kilometers-wide artifact, and were drawn into a paradise realm inhabited by unspeakably powerful Force-wielders. These god-like beings were locked in an eternal struggle for dominance, which made Mortis the fulcrum of the entire galaxy and the Force.:Databank: Mortis^ The Ones transformed Mortis into the fulcrum for the entire Force
Obi-Wan: I don't understand. What is this place?
Qui-Gon: Unlike any other. A conduit through which the entire Force of the universe flows.
^ More confirmation. The entire Force of the universe flows through Mortis
https://youtu.be/groYO_51bwY?t=93
"Anakin: The planet is the Force, use it"
Anakin is amped by the entirety of the Force to overpower Son + Daughter, and they still endure his attacks. And even in this level, it is very likely that he was inferior to The Father.
Yes, but it is not said to be at once or instant. That is how we treat these when we have no timeframe.Matthew Schroeder said:Uh, that's what it says.
"she could literally reshape the galaxy in any manner she wished". She could warp the entire galaxy in any way she wanted
Um. You should reread that quote. "Anakin use the distraction to slay Son with his lightsaber."Matthew Schroeder said:The Dagger is literally stated to be the only thing that can kill The Ones, don't show a half-quote implying that it's a random energy dagger.:In a proactive measure, Luke dispatches a special team of Jedi—the Ten Knights—to seek out the monolith of Mortis, where they might find the Dagger of Mortis, a legendary object capable of slaying a Force-wielder from beyond the mortal realm.:The Essential Reader's Companion
And those forms they take can obviously be physically effected...Matthew Schroeder said:No, their "physical form" is actually made of Force as well, as the Father stated in the quote above quite clearly.
And also...
"Do you think the Ones are made of crude matter?" Thuruht replied. "The Ones are beings of the Force. The Ones take any form they desire."
Fate of the Jedi: Apocalypse
Not being made of normal matter =/= being totally non-physical. We see in the canon that they can take physical bodies. We see in the canon these bodies can be hurt and weaken. We see in canon that when weakened, sufficient harm to these bodies can kill them.Matthew Schroeder said:Snip
I don't think either of us is arguing for that.Matthew Schroeder said:Point being, the notion that they need to actively use Force to shield themselves is ludicrous because their bodies are made of Force.
Matthew Schroeder said:Anyway
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Reppuzan/Glory_to_the_Sith_Emperor
^ 5-A Viviate. Ever and I are fine with it. https://forums.hero-academia.com/xfa-blog-entry/star-wars-belsaviss-power-core.35790/
^ 4-A feat that scales to Ones and Luke.
http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/calc-18-duel-aboard-the-invisible-hand-star-wars.20672/
http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/calc-slip-jaws-manoeuvre-star-wars.21837/
^ Sub-Relativistic feats for Disney Canon (There are others on this level or near it)
I never claimed the One's were universal. In fact, I've been actively arguing against such a notion.Lina Shields said:@Syndicate: And how does the above quote prove that The Ones are Universe level exactly? There is nothing in the above quote that indicates this.