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A WoD Discussion thread
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Aren't buddhas also mentioned?
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Excuse Gasper but I need your input on my Dataphyte match
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I am currently at work, will comment later.
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Thanks
Udlmaster
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They're both.
I don't think that's Vishnu's role, and MahaVishnu is just another name for Vishnu, it just means "Great Vishnu", I think Vishnu's ultimate form is Narayana.
As for if he exists, yeah, he's an important figure in the background of Vormas' story.
I don't remember too much about them, though I remember Big Owl being the primordial fear of the Night and all of them being Godheads:
That alone would make them 0, as they can manipulate spaces on the level of the Spires to be their domains.
I think there was a statement that one of the names for Gaia was Guanyin or that Gaia was one of the forms for Guanyin.
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Mahavishnu is vishnu who dreams infinite universes from his pores and not just a normal him.
Though is Narayana in WOD?
That much i know, but is he mentioned anywhere else?
I see. Does that make Guanyin more powerful that Gaia?
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Is Elohim (as in God, not the group) a Godhead in WoD? I remember Him being mentioned alongside the other Godheads, but I'm not sure.
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Elohim means Gods as in plural. So Elohim would be Godheads.
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Yeah, I was pointing out that I'm specifically referring to Elohim in the singular (Like this Elohim for example). I remember Elohim being used in a singular tense once or twice.
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Singular is EL, Elohim is always referred to as plural.
To be honest i don't remember Elohim being referred to as a singular god or anything like that. The closest to that kind of god is jahovah.
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It quite literally can be singular, SMT aside, it's one of the names of God irl.
I remember a line mentioning stuff like Jaohovah being uncertain of His own existence and Elohim being remote from creation.
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“You shall have no other gods before me." Is the quote translated from the Bible. "Gods" in Hebrew is Elohim.
El is the god of gods and all other gods are represented as "the children of El".
And Elohim not the name of the god. Elohim is only mentioned four times in the Hebrew bible, and when it does, it ALWAYS refers to multiple gods beneath the main god.
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You can quite literally google Elohim and find singular usage of it.
I am not concerned with whether it is accurate to the original translation, rather the fact that it has been used in the singular. There is literally an example of a character called Elohim on this wiki.
Udlmaster
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Narayana I think is mentioned once in an old book.
Not really, Hinduism doesn't play a big part in WoD, so like Buddhism, mentions are sparse.
It'd likely make her equal to Gaia
Elohim (the God) isn't really mentioned, just the name ELOHIM being used as another name for Godheads.
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The quote i've provided is as accurate as it can be. The false translations are in most bibles. Instead of it being translated as "gods" in most bibles it's either "Heavenly beings" or "angels" which isn't correct.
You can look it up yourself.
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Again, translations and original don't matter, I'm talking about general usage.
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Thanks!
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General usage as in fiction?
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Fiction and reality I suppose. The original translation ain't the point, Elohim has been used in singular.
Linguistic shift does change such things.
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It has been used in singular due to mistranslation and misinformation.
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Does he have any relationship with the trikaya?
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Gasper I predict something good will happen with WOD
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no. They are just evil beings who rule over parts of asias underworld
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Imo top 10 strongest WOD characters:
1: I AM THAT I AM
2: Vairocana
3: buddha (Siddhartha Gautama)
4: our lady
5: Bondye/gaia/Guanyin/Jade Emperor/brahman
6: the triat
7: the ancient one/monad/yu Huang
8: those who dwell behind the stars/Helios/luna/Narayana
9: the Demiurge (yaldabaoth)
10: lucifer/Lilith/trikaya
1: I AM THAT I AM
2: Vairocana
3: buddha (Siddhartha Gautama)
4: our lady
5: Bondye/gaia/Guanyin/Jade Emperor/brahman
6: the triat
7: the ancient one/monad/yu Huang
8: those who dwell behind the stars/Helios/luna/Narayana
9: the Demiurge (yaldabaoth)
10: lucifer/Lilith/trikaya
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Udlmaster
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None
He is one of the Yama Lords, confusingly enough
Nah, Our Lady is beneath the Buddha, explicitly, he's beyond her as he surpassed all the Gods by attaining Nirvana.
Not sure what Unity is meant to be.
Yu Huang IS the Jade Emperor, Yu Huang is just the pinyin name for him
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I see
Interesting.
Didn't know that
The triat before they became, you know, the triat.
Isn't Yu Huang from Werewolf the Apocalypse just manifestation of the weaver?
I am pretty sure the Jade Emperor from wrath the Oblivion is the one equal to Gaia.
Udlmaster
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Oh I see!
Primordial Unity is probably beneath Gaia, since Gaia is accredited with making the Triat, so it follows that she would have made the Primordial Unity.
Not that I know of. The Yu Huang which I know about was equals with Gaia in Werewolf and was her husband.
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Hmmm, what about gaia being created from the void/the Absolute? An aspect of the wyrm. I always thought the supernal triat created gaia and then gaia created somekind of duplicates of them in the void. Could be wrong tho.
I need to re-read it then.
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how fast is the consensus? Aka what marckus and other humans use.
If it takes a second I could use marckus against 682 since 682 can’t resist consensus level versions of things he’s resistant to.
and also because 682 gets a chance to win if he kills marckus before it can activate
Udlmaster
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Nah, The Absolute is just the end of the Cosmology, there's no higher space or thing beyond it, as the Supernal no longer exists and exists beyond intellect anyway.
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What happened to it?
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I am not sure if i understand this. How can an aspect of the wyrm be created before wyrm himself?
Udlmaster
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Broke apart into the Triat.
He didn't, Gaia made the Supernal Unity and the Unity broke apart into things like Existence and the Void
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