A vampire fights a suc

[Setsuna_tenma]

Caine
vs

Malcanthet

Low 2C versions

Speed equalized

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Malcanthet acts sexy and Caine is now High 6-A

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Mal cus Oppai > Bearded man

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Caine has tier 1 haxex.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Which of his hax? I doubt everything he has is tier 1

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Plot hax, Information hax, Text hax, Reality Warping etc,

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

If he has tier 1 reality warping he should just be tier 1

Also define plot hax

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

he is above the mages who can become the story teller.He also has passive fate hax that works on type 5 acasuals

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Becoming the story teller is tier 1... but mages can't just do that at will

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

pretty sure they can actually

otherwise it would'nt be listed

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

considering the fact that he resists all of his own abilities, really powerful mind manip included, Caine probably stomps

 

[Mr. Bambu]

> Tier 1 vs Low 2-C

okay but why though coz Tier 1 Reality Warping literally is just Tier 1

 

[Firephoenixearl]

This just turned into a CRT, but yes tier 1 reality warping is tier 1. Caine needs to be upgraded.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

considering the fact that he resists all of his own abilities, really powerful mind manip included, Caine probably stomps

 

[Udlmaster]

1. It's not Tier 1 RW, it's Infomation Manip, Plot Hax, Text hax etc and this only scales if he enters a certain state, and until then, it wouldn't scale.

2. Trying to Mind Hax him is pretty pointless, since he resists much stronger Mind Hax like this:

https://imgur.com/3wIZDdK

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Your such an expert on World of Darkness verse but you gonna vote?

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

Caine stomps tbh

he resists literally everything Mal can do and outhaxes so badly it's just sad

 

[Udlmaster]

I'm flattered.

For now I'll wait for someone to propose an argument against him and counter it, once I feel I've addressed all arguments, I'll vote.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Someone have Caine fight Altair

 

[Udlmaster]

Which of his hax? I doubt everything he has is tier 1

Actually, nigh-all of his abilities are 8-D as they work on the Demons, who scale to the Angels who created the At least 8-D Verse.

 

[Hl3_or_bust]

99.99999999999% he still stomps

 

[Udlmaster]

Zach, does Mal possess the "I attack first" prob hax?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Zach, does Mal possess the "I attack first" prob hax?

Yes why?

 

[Udlmaster]

How strong is her AP?

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Low 2-C. To his apparently Tier 1 abilities.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Also, assuming he isn't Tier 1, then... Mal's mindhax is above-baseline 2-A range. That doesn't seem like above-baseline.

 

[Udlmaster]

The One Mind ability affect multiple infinite amount of beings.

Firstly the infinite Multiverse, then the infinite amount of beings in the infinite realities surrounding the infinite heavens.

By this alone, this is Alif 2.

This is considerably above baseline.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

As is a Lesser Deity equivalent, as you know. Considering the multiverse of D&D includes both the Prime Materials (each of which is infinite) and IIRC had infinite copies (if I remember the scan correctly, but I'd have to look it up), as well as the Abyss, which has infinite planes. Et all, of course.

It's late here and I'm soon to bed so I'm out for now.

 

[Udlmaster]

So, Alif 1, Infinity ^ Infinity (Assuming in those infinite planes from the Abyss has infinite beings)

 

[Firephoenixearl]

So, Alif 1, Infinity ^ Infinity (Assuming in those infinite planes from the Abyss has infinite beings)

Infinity x Infinity (Infinity ^ 2), not Infinity ^ Infinity xD

 

[Udlmaster]

Infinity ^ infinity = Infinity x infinity

Also:

Agnaa
Actually I was slightly wrong with my last post.

If we represent "Countable infinity" with ÔäÁ0, then 2^ÔäÁ0 is uncountably infinite, ÔäÁ0^ÔäÁ0 is the same size as 2^ÔäÁ0 being uncountably infinite.

For more reading on this result, read up on Cantor's Theorem, for more reading on the size of the uncountably infinite, read up on Cardinality of the Continuum

06:33, November 6, 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinality_of_the_continuum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor's_theorem

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Infinity ^ infinity = Infinity x infinity

....

Infinity x Infinity = Infinity ^ 2

Infinity ^ Inifnity = Infinity x Infinity x Infinity x infinity x Infinity x Infinity..........

 

[Udlmaster]

You're right, I'm going to sleep now, 8 AM.

Mafs mode offline.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

What about this thread, how's this going?

 

[Udlmaster]

Very dead, but the Succ has no way of dealing with all of his abilities.

 

[DMB_1]

>Reality Warping over an 8D structure.

This should outright be listed as 1-C in his tier.

 

[Udlmaster]

I'VE NOT SAID IT'S RW

He doesn't have 8-D/11-D RW, he doesn't have feats of that, nor do the Mages.

 

[DMB_1]

The what is it?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

It's udl trying to make all his favorite characters Smurfs

 

[Udlmaster]

Kek.

It's just his Magic. That's all.