a Strawhat pirate fights an enemy designed to kill a Hero

[Shadowbokunohero]

Monkey D Luffy: Low 7-C

Nomu: Low 7-C

• Speed Equalized

Continuing my MHA spree

So this takes place around the first seasoned ending, instead of All might Showing Up, Luffy does accidentally.

Outcome

If Luffy wins, he will be recognized as the one of the greatest Heroe's

If Nomu Wins, The league of Villains will Kill the Students, and the press will Slam All might and his reputation will be Ruined.

Let's Go

Nomu: 1 (Ricsi)

Luffy: 7 (Knight,Cin the Shaak Ti Lover,Zack,Bluetekking,KinkiestSins,Shinratenseiguy,Alrf,Velox)

Inconclsuive

 

[LordGinSama]

Wew the winning and losing conditions are pretty brutal lmao. I'll vote later.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

low 7c luffy cant really harm nomu, as hes an AT LEAST 7c .

nomu dou to regen

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

'''At least''' makes no difference

 

[LordGinSama]

low 7c luffy cant really harm nomu, as hes an AT LEAST 7c .

nomu dou to regen

Faculty reasoning, an "at least" typically doesn't mean much. And Luffy actually has higher durability in this case.


Small Town level (Withstood several Rankyaku and other attacks from Lucci), at least Town Level when dealing with blunt force (Was completely unaffected by repeated attacks from Asgard Moriah).


Yeah Nomu doesn't have any any means to actually hurt Luffy, Luffy has better resistance to blunt force attacks, has much better range, skill, stamina and for once intelligence. Yeah voting Luffy.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

@Knight trying to save All Might's reputation I see OvO

 

[LordGinSama]

Why wouldn't i? :^)

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

All Maid Sama

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

i think nomus gonna just outlast, as luffy has no way to put HIM down and he could just wear him down via regen

 

[LordGinSama]

i think nomus gonna just outlast, as luffy has no way to put HIM down and he could just wear him down via regen

Low-Mid regen can be dealt with pretty easily. And he isn't outlasting Luffy with that type of stamina. All Might himself proved that Nomu's blunt force resistance could be beaten with enough force, not only that but Nomu only uses Blunt attacks such as punches which Luffy is much more resistant to. As i pointed out Luffy has town level durability when dealing with blunt force attacks.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Low-Mid regen can be dealt with pretty easily. And he isn't outlasting Luffy with that type of stamina. All Might himself proved that Nomu's blunt force resistance could be beaten with enough force, not only that but Nomu only uses Blunt attacks such as punches which Luffy is much more resistant to. As i pointed out Luffy has town level durability when dealing with blunt force attacks.

7c luffy doesent have the speeed to do that amount of dammage that fast, and his blunt force absorption will make it harder for luffy to dammage him at all

 

[LordGinSama]

3rd time Luffy has town level durability when dealing with blunt force attacks. And All Might didn't overcome his Shock absorption via speed it was more kin to strength. Which Luffy could likely replicate via attacks such as Gum Gum Rifle, pistol, gatling etc.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

3rd time Luffy has town level durability when dealing with blunt force attacks. And All Might didn't overcome his Shock absorption via speed it was more kin to strength. Which Luffy could likely replicate via attacks such as Gum Gumeed Rifle, pistol, gatling etc.

he did so with amount of attacks, which with speed equalized isnt really a factor

 

[LordGinSama]

The amount of attacks has nothing to do with speed. You realize this right?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The amount of attacks has nothing to do with speed. You realize this right?

until a certain point

all might hit faster than the blunt attack absorption could absorb attacks, which is why nomu is only LIKELY supersonic plus, as he only kept up for so long

 

[LordGinSama]

There isn't a certain point. Again that has nothing to do with speed blitzing.


And you need to realize Luffy could send Nomu flying just as All Might did. He's sent people flying to different islands before. He can do the same here.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

There isn't a certain point. Again that has nothing to do with speed blitzing.

And you need to realize Luffy could send Nomu flying just as All Might did. He's sent people flying to different islands before. He can do the same here.

attacking faster than somone can recover DOES have to do with speed


none of those peapole had tresictence to blunt attacks, his 7 c, so nomu can tank the attacks and stop himself from flying via blunt resistence

 

[LordGinSama]

All Might was attacking faster than Nomu could absorb the shock but it was also him quite literally overpowering Nomu physically as well.


Which Luffy overwhelms with Storm attacks or outlasts him due to the massive stamina difference. Also for the 4th time Luffy has far better resistance to blunt attacks. He's 7-C in durability meanwhile Nomu is only low 7-C in terms of AP and durability. Nothing Nomu does is going to hurt Luffy due to all of his attacks revolving around blunt force. Meanwhile Luffy can only overwrite Nomu's resistance with enough effort. Both clearly have a limit as to how much blunt force attacks they can take but it's clear that Luffy has the FAR better resistance to said attacks.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

All Might was attacking faster than Nomu could absorb the shock but it was also him quite literally overpowering Nomu physically as well.

Which Luffy overwhelms with Storm attacks or outlasts him due to the massive stamina difference. Also for the 4th time Luffy has far better resistance to blunt attacks. He's 7-C in durability meanwhile Nomu is only low 7-C in terms of AP and durability. Nothing Nomu does is going to hurt Luffy due to all of his attacks revolving around blunt force. Meanwhile Luffy can only overwrite Nomu's resistance with enough effort. Both clearly have a limit as to how much blunt force attacks they can take but it's clear that Luffy has the FAR better resistance to said attacks.

one hit- no effect, hundreds of hits- i woks thats speed

storm attacks are not important due to speed equal, and luffy couldent hurt nomu even if hes not moving, as tanking doesent require stamina, he canjust stop attacking.

luffy has a resictence to blunt attack , he , howsever, cannot overcome nomus resictencee either. which is why it comes to who can tank for more, and as botrh can tank while asleep, it comes to who last more, its either inconclusive or for nomu via outliving luffy

 

[LordGinSama]

1: You can trade hundreds of hits within a speed equalized match so that's moot.


2: Might wanna attempt to word your sentences better. No clue what you even said. Luffy can still use Storm Attacks with speed equalized. Idk where you assumed he couldn't. And actually Luffy can hurt Nomu with his AP advantage. Luffy back in Skypeia performed a 1.217 kiloton feat and he's even stronger in the Thriller Bark arc which is the Luffy being used. Nomu is weaker than All for One who has a 1.1 kiloton feat. Luffy with his AP advantage can indeed overcome his Shock Absorption the same can't be said for Nomu. Also yes tanking attacks does tie into stamina.


3: Read above, Luffy can bypass his Shock Absorption with his AP advantage and Nomu isn't outliving Luffy. Luffy takes the stamina advantage by far. Luffy is > 1.217 kilotons meanwhile Nomu is weaker than All for One's 1.1 Kiloton Feat.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

1: You can trade hundreds of hits within a speed equalized match so that's moot.

2: Might wanna attempt to word your sentences better. No clue what you even said. Luffy can still use Storm Attacks with speed equalized. Idk where you assumed he couldn't. And actually Luffy can hurt Nomu with his AP advantage. Luffy back in Skypeia performed a 1.217 kiloton feat and he's even stronger in the Thriller Bark arc which is the Luffy being used. Nomu is weaker than All for One who has a 1.1 kiloton feat. Luffy with his AP advantage can indeed overcome his Shock Absorption the same can't be said for Nomu. Also yes tanking attacks does tie into stamina.


3: Read above, Luffy can bypass his Shock Absorption with his AP advantage and Nomu isn't outliving Luffy. Luffy takes the stamina advantage by far. Luffy is > 1.217 kilotons meanwhile Nomu is weaker than All for One's 1.1 Kiloton Feat.

1 not faster than an enemie can recover, no

2 looking that it took houndreds of allmights hit, and that he was phisicly all right after it, id say its not really that easy, and not aways, tanking attacks whitout needing using powers doesent consume stamina

3 all might needed houndreds of hits andhe was still all right after the hits, just sent flying

 

[LordGinSama]

1: Wasn't arguing about it being faster. You said you can't trade hundreds of hits within a speed equalized match witch you can.


2: Ok? Luffy is stronger than All Might at this point ( Again look at my post before.) And tanking attacks certainly does tie into your stamina. You get tired after getting hit the more often it's happens so yes Stamina definitely plays a factor in tanking attacks.


3: Again read above. All Might scales to 1.1 kilotons meanwhile Luffy scales above 1.217 kilotons. Luffy could do the same thing expect easier due to greater AP.


4: Stop quoting large walls of text. You'll fill up the threads quickly.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

2 not really, it affects stamina if you either need to use powers or get dammaged


3 no, allmight could hit before nomu could get back up, speed equalized makes it so that nomu can get his blunt attack asorption before luffy does houndreds of hits


nomu was not hurt by those 1.1 kilotons as shown when he was restrained, as he had no dammage on his body, sending someone flyingis not quiet equal to dammaging them

 

[LordGinSama]

1: Again you keep falling to see the point. With every hit your stamina is gonna chip away slowly. Getting damaged is gonna drop your stamina much lower.


2: Can you stop ignoring the statics here? With an AP advantage like that Luffy can indeed overcome his Shock Absorption in due time.


3: .... I swear it goes through one ear and comes out the other. All Might was throwing punches with the equivalent of 1.1 kilotons, Nomu could deal with that due to his Shock Absorption however Luffy has a sizable AP advantage over the both of them. And Luffy doesn't need to send him flying, I don't know how many times I need to keep telling you this but Luffy scales above 1.217 kilotons. All Might scales to 1.1 kilotons and he was extremely weakened while fighting Nomu. Nomu himself scales slightly below said 1.1 kilotons. Meaning Luffy is stronger and will eventually bypass his Shock Absorption with pure strength alone meanwhile Nomu can't do anything to Luffy's town level durability.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

1 no, stamina gets chiped away when you do activities or get dammaged

2how is that enough to overcome someones shock absorption when they can tank houndreds of attacks WHITOUT being dammaged

3 but shock absorption doesent go away with time, it can be owerwhelmed, but it doesent go away, if given a second it be back to how it was before, its not an abilitie that goes down with stamina or that doesent come back if not pushed continuosly, luffy can at most attack dozins of times with his attacks and doesent keep them coming while someone is on the ground, so he would simply hit nomu, drop him down, and than he would come back up


his shock absorption still allowed him to tank houzndreds of all mights pounches with no dammage to his body

 

[LordGinSama]

1: being forced to tank attacks above your weight class is going to eat at your stamina. Saying otherwise is ridiculous.


2: Because it's greater than Nomu's durability and greater than All Might's attacks. Yes he took hundreds of blows however they were still only 1.1 kiloton blows. They weren't above 1.217 kilotons.


3: Uhhhh I never said it did. Again Nomu's isn't absorbing multiple hits that are above 1.217 kilotons, that's above anything he's ever handled. Your really starting to wank Nomu and his Shock Absorption, whenever All Might clearly stated there was a limit as to how much he can take. Cool, Nomu gets up and Luffy keeps pummeling him until his Shock Absorption gives out.


4: Read 2. All Might was throwing punches with the force of 1.1 kilotons, it doesn't matter how much he threw the fact of the matter is that nothing he did to Nomu was above 1.217 kilotons meanwhile Luffy is gonna be throwing punches with a greater amount of force than 1.217 kilotons. Seriously, I've lost count of how many times I've explained this to you yet you clearly don't understand.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

youre problem is that you think shock absorption gives out permanently, which it doesent, it canm be overwhelmed, but it doesent give out. houndreds of pounches can and do change a lot,

not being hurt by 1.1 kilotons at ALL whitout shock absorptiondoes in fact give you a pretty good resictence to 1.217

 

[CinCameron20]

Luffy wins FRA and actually having higher intellect than Nomu, meaning that Luffy will be more creative and analytical than him and search for a weakness while Nomu only cares to destroy Luffy.

Both can harm eachother, but Luffy is going to realize that Nomu has shock absorption sooner or later, and then use attacks that are more focused on piercing, or even use the environment to his advantage in any creative way.

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Luffy FRA

 

[Akreious]

I'm just gonna come in here to note that All Might was going beyond his present limitations and overpowering, Outspeeding, and basically all round stomping Noumu while he sacrificed his last remaining One for All embers. Noumu was hit many more times than did All Might. In a speed equals match, that isn't happening.

 

[LordGinSama]

All Might didn't use his last remaining One for All Embers against Nomu. That was with All for One not Nomu.

 

[Akreious]

I never said he used it all. After his match with Noumu, he went from several hours of One for All to doubtful that he has a few minutes.

 

[Bluetrekking]

Luffy FRA.

 

[CinCameron20]

@Akreious - Luffy has no such weakness, and All Might was on his last leg. The Small Town level scales exactly to All Might as he finished off Nomu.

 

[ShinraTenseiGuy]

does luffy have gears? like 2nd and 3ed, if he does then he wins...

both got really high durabillty (luffy thanks to DF and nomu quirk) so it will come down to who wants it more, and i believe its luffy, also becasue of the situation.

i think Jet Gatling should do the job (kinda like what all-might did). (;

 

[KinkiestSins]

Luffy FRA.

 

[ALRF]

I was gonna vote in this thread, untill i saw All Maid.

• Dies

 

[LordGinSama]

I was gonna vote in this thread, untill i saw All Maid.

You're welcome :^)

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Luffy FRA,also....

@ALRF

Poor you,do you need an eye wash medicine......?

 

[ALRF]

I forgot that completely....until you came, bumped this thread and saw it again

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