Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Alright, since I have a well known reputation regarding downgrades, let me start off by saying that I ******* love Hellsing, and have read it multiple times. Alucard is one of my favorite characters of all time, so let it be known that I take no pleasure in having to do this. I believe Hellsing as it stands now is pretty wanked, so I’m gonna start by tackling one of the bigger issues with the verse; Blood as concepts/information.
Type 3 CM stems from this set of scans. To begin, let’s establish something that will be very important in discussing what these scans actually mean in context: To drink someone’s blood as a vampire is to have total mental control over them (either by turning them into a ghoul or another vampire). This already puts the third scan in a new light; Integra is not saying that blood contains the literal existence of a person. Rather, Seras, due to having her blood drunk by Alucard, was formerly under his control (hence the mentions of her belonging to Alucard, as well as how blood is a tool of enslavement). To put it simply, the fact that drinking blood is “taking all that someone is” is not in reference to their concept or entire state of existence, but rather about how you quite literally belong to whoever drinks your blood. That said, the third scan in a broader context is merely in reference to Alucard’s soul reserves and how he can summon them in Level 0; In this state, they’re merely an extension of Alucard’s own being, so Integra’s statement is much more likely referring to that as well, rather than an unrelated tangent of “blood is concepts”.
So that also helps clear up the second scan; When the Major is talking about the “unification of minds”, it’s natural to assume that he’s talking about the mental link vampires share with their victims. The first scan is also, funnily enough, exclusively about blood’s relation to the mind and soul, and has nothing even resembling concepts at all. The meaning of both of these scans becomes even more apparent when we see the context immediately before the first scan, wherein Seras’ mind has effectively merged with Pip’s after she drank his blood, making it so Zorin couldn’t use her mindhax on her anymore (supported by Pip staying in her head afterwards). At that point, all we’re looking at is the “the essence of the vampire” statement, which is extremely weak on its own.
Now for type 2 info, and this is a lot more simple. Alucard drinks Tubalcain’s blood, and says he’ll have him tell him everything with his life. That’s it. Notably, this isn’t really information, as Alucard basically says he gathered Tubalcain’s thoughts (which aligns with the other evidence of blood being linked to the mind). There’s also the issue of how this “information” has no indication of governing reality on any level (which is a hard requirement for type 2 info). As an aside, the idea that drinking blood grants knowledge seems a little inconsistent, as Alucard had no notable knowledge about the Millennium group’s reformation even after absorbing Luke Valentine (which he confirms here).
As for Schrodinger… I straight up couldn’t find a source for him being made of information. The stuff about him being made of thoughts is all good and well, but I can’t even comprehend what would make him qualify for fundamental information.
So aside from nuking concept/info hax, what else does this entail? Mainly, post-Schrodinger Alucard loses his HGR and goes down to MGR since it stems from regenerating his soul/blood.
Type 3 CM stems from this set of scans. To begin, let’s establish something that will be very important in discussing what these scans actually mean in context: To drink someone’s blood as a vampire is to have total mental control over them (either by turning them into a ghoul or another vampire). This already puts the third scan in a new light; Integra is not saying that blood contains the literal existence of a person. Rather, Seras, due to having her blood drunk by Alucard, was formerly under his control (hence the mentions of her belonging to Alucard, as well as how blood is a tool of enslavement). To put it simply, the fact that drinking blood is “taking all that someone is” is not in reference to their concept or entire state of existence, but rather about how you quite literally belong to whoever drinks your blood. That said, the third scan in a broader context is merely in reference to Alucard’s soul reserves and how he can summon them in Level 0; In this state, they’re merely an extension of Alucard’s own being, so Integra’s statement is much more likely referring to that as well, rather than an unrelated tangent of “blood is concepts”.
So that also helps clear up the second scan; When the Major is talking about the “unification of minds”, it’s natural to assume that he’s talking about the mental link vampires share with their victims. The first scan is also, funnily enough, exclusively about blood’s relation to the mind and soul, and has nothing even resembling concepts at all. The meaning of both of these scans becomes even more apparent when we see the context immediately before the first scan, wherein Seras’ mind has effectively merged with Pip’s after she drank his blood, making it so Zorin couldn’t use her mindhax on her anymore (supported by Pip staying in her head afterwards). At that point, all we’re looking at is the “the essence of the vampire” statement, which is extremely weak on its own.
Now for type 2 info, and this is a lot more simple. Alucard drinks Tubalcain’s blood, and says he’ll have him tell him everything with his life. That’s it. Notably, this isn’t really information, as Alucard basically says he gathered Tubalcain’s thoughts (which aligns with the other evidence of blood being linked to the mind). There’s also the issue of how this “information” has no indication of governing reality on any level (which is a hard requirement for type 2 info). As an aside, the idea that drinking blood grants knowledge seems a little inconsistent, as Alucard had no notable knowledge about the Millennium group’s reformation even after absorbing Luke Valentine (which he confirms here).
As for Schrodinger… I straight up couldn’t find a source for him being made of information. The stuff about him being made of thoughts is all good and well, but I can’t even comprehend what would make him qualify for fundamental information.
So aside from nuking concept/info hax, what else does this entail? Mainly, post-Schrodinger Alucard loses his HGR and goes down to MGR since it stems from regenerating his soul/blood.
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