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Do you mean like branching timelines? And the events are different in both timelines like GT could probably happen if Beerus doesn’t wake up and dream of a ssjg
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A major update to Dragon Ball timelines
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kind of, see it like this, trunks is from another timeline, he went to the main timeline bringing goku black with him, then the battle went back to the future timeline, so now the events of one timeline caused events of the other and vice versa, got it now?
i mean, i think that gt can still happen even with that
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Yeah GT is shown to have the events of Og Db Z, etc. The only difference is beerus didnt wake up and they abused the dbs and allat happens so it’s still pretty consistent with there being small changes but those small changes can make castasrophic differences like Goku just getting revived from heart virus helped them achieve god Ki and stuff and Trunks has never met the Beerus of his timeline. So this is pretty consistent with GT being canon but being an alternate timeline and Dbs manga and dbs anime Both being canon but just alternate timelines (You could honestly argue DBS is based off the Z anime due to characters like Gregory not being in the Manga and SSJ2 kid goku vs kid Buu and the bulma filler in namek all shown in the dbs anime)
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yeah but, it is listed as if it was in the same timeline, but i believe that we are going in circles at this point
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I’m confused are you 2 arguing gt and super share a timeline?
(regarding the z anime stuff) Yes.
(regarding the z anime stuff) Yes.
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Yeah, lets delete the original manga profiles, most of them are pretty barebones
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Thinking about it again, probably not a good idea
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the z anime stuff is not really since dbs is stated to be the continuation of the manga, plus gregory was implied to exist in the manga, we just didn't saw him
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It is? When
And no Gregory isn’t in the dbs manga either
also are you guys trying to argue super and gt are in a single timeline because I disagree with that
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can't find it right now, gonna try and find it later today
edit: found it https://www.kanzenshuu.com/2020/11/26/translation-update-special-project-toyotaro-drew-it-image-36/
yeah i was talking about the anime in that instance, but just so you know, db kai has contradictions to the super anime as well, like gregory still being dead while in kai he is revived
yeah
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That doesn’t mean Gregory is canon and it says that gregory was only in the toei anime
how could super and Gt be in the same timeline? Toriyama literally says it’s an alternate history (timeline)
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"He’s Kaiō-sama‘s caretaker who you’ll know from the anime. He doesn’t appear in the comic, but maybe he’s just hiding somewhere!"
which is retconed by the timeline board presented by shueisha
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For what it's worth, Toriyama says GT is a side story of "原作ドラゴンボール" which is literally the rawest way to say "canon DB" in Japanese.
GTbros....we were actually canon this whole time..
GTbros....we were actually canon this whole time..
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For what it's worth, Toriyama says GT is a side story of "原作ドラゴンボール" which is literally the rawest way to say "canon DB" in Japanese.
GTbros....we were actually canon this whole time..
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In all seriousness it does indeed say that but I don't know if it taking it as meaning GT is part of the manga's continuity is really sound, since it has more statements of being the continuation of the Z Anime and references a lot of filler which diverges from the Manga quite a bit.
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Dragon Ball GT is a grand side-story of the original Dragon Ball, and it’ll make me happy for us to watch and enjoy it together.
— Akira Toriyama
In the translation is this :3
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Thats probably a joke
Or it’s just showing events at certain time periods?
Dk what dbsh does to prove anything but ok
For what it's worth, Toriyama says GT is a side story of "原作ドラゴンボール" which is literally the rawest way to say "canon DB" in Japanese.
GTbros....we were actually canon this whole time..
The op is arguing for GT to be one of the countless timelines that exist within canon db
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it is a valid explanation
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all of his scans are straight up not saying that tho
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"He’s Kaiō-sama‘s caretaker who you’ll know from the anime. He doesn’t appear in the comic, but maybe he’s just hiding somewhere!" (he doesn’t show up in the manga at all)
How? There’s a lot of proof that toei is canon to GT
Or you’re just misinterpreting that one scan it’s not saying that dbs and gt are in one timeline it’s just give the time periods for events in both dbs and gt and it’s showing the timeline of time periods within the canon timeline I don’t see what’s the confusion as Toriyama’s comment quite literally confirms that
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I wasn’t finna read allat but thanks for doing that
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Guys, don't make this too big, we have to let other team members look at this.
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let us talk in discord for now just to not clogg this thread as per luffy's request
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Okay
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Yeah, from the interview in the OP
Translations | Dragon Ball GT Dragon Book: GT Back Then (Kōzō Morishita Interview)
English translation of the Kōzō Morishita 'GT Back Then' interview from the 2006 Dragon Ball GT Dragon Box DVD release in Japan
www.kanzenshuu.com
I mean, there's literally an entire episode worth of GT Vegeta reminiscing on his past and we get an entire highlight reel of Z Anime scenes that differ from how said scenes happened in the manga (episode 55), and the ending also has a highlight reel of the Z Anime.
Aside from that, GT Goku references the time he fell into Hell in the Saiyan Saga, which is explicitly an Anime filler original scene.
So I'm not sure how literally the "side story of canon DB" comment from Toriyama can be taken as meaning it's part of the manga timeline, though I suppose what the OP proposes about it being a different timeline makes it work.
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I think Omega might've been referring to the Super anime.
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A timeline like trunks works best, but I completely agree with you.Yeah, from the interview in the OP
Translations | Dragon Ball GT Dragon Book: GT Back Then (Kōzō Morishita Interview)
English translation of the Kōzō Morishita 'GT Back Then' interview from the 2006 Dragon Ball GT Dragon Box DVD release in Japan
I mean, there's literally an entire episode worth of GT Vegeta reminiscing on his past and we get an entire highlight reel of Z Anime scenes that differ from how said scenes happened in the manga (episode 55), and the ending also has a highlight reel of the Z Anime.
Aside from that, GT Goku references the time he fell into Hell in the Saiyan Saga, which is explicitly an Anime filler original scene.
So I'm not sure how literally the "side story of canon DB" comment from Toriyama can be taken as meaning it's part of the manga timeline, though I suppose what the OP proposes about it being a different timeline makes it work.
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Again, what makes GT an alternate timeline and not mainline canon?
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Because that's the manga, right?
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It can be an alternate timeline and still be canon like future trunks timeline
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The anime is mainline canon, too, and according to the History Exhibit, GT follows after the Super anime.
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It’s just showing the chronological events in different timelines like how guides have shown age 779 being when trunks goes to the timeline (that we know of) and age 779 as Rof they’re chronologically the same but happen in 2 different timelines same logic here
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trunks' timeline is directly connected to the main timeline, that would not be the case with gt
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And that makes it non canon because??
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If this gets accepted, does this tie the current accepted Z anime/toei cosmology to super? If so, wow a lot of big jumps
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when have i said that? if it is showing the sequences of events of the main timeline, then it wouldn't show a non connected timeline, canon or not
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