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A fanfic character fights a dark lord

I don't remember the passive causality ever reflecting something like mind hax.

I also have doubts about it being passive, because we see her activate it. And she couldn't reverse stuff like her being sealed, which is further proof she can only reverse actual damage and not something like Mind Manipulation.
 
Schnee One said:
Dracula doesn't have non physical interaction, his profile notes he can straight up interact with Abstracts as a whole.
Dracula resists powernull and rewriting the plot won't do scot without feats
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that was before the revisions in abstract existance.

Outline origin isn`t power altair literally turns dracula back to the begining of his story.Dracula doesn`t resist plot manipulation so altair can just rewrite draculas story
 
"It's passive"

"It's not"

"It can reflect all actions"

"It hasn't reflected mindhax"

.....

Has it reflected mindhax, yes or no.
 
Schnee One said:
"It's passive"
"It's not"

"It can reflect all actions"

"It hasn't reflected mindhax"

.....

Has it reflected mindhax, yes or no.
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mindhaxing someone is an action so it gets reflected besides dracula mindhax has`t been shown to affect a type 1 abstract
 
I'm going to assume that's a no.

Also, revisions on Abstract existence do not matter, it is on the file until there is a CRT to fix it.
 
It reflects damage, not actions. Otherwise literally every action used against her would be reflected, which obviously isn't the case.
 
This is a match clearly made by the OP for Altair tobwin given as Setsuna has done nothing but try to deny that anything Dracula has is useless.
 
YungManzi said:
It reflects damage, not actions. Otherwise literally every action used against her would be reflected, which obviously isn't the case.
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thats just PIS.Her causality has even reflected conceptual attacks
 
Dracula still has no answer to altairs passive causality hax and can`t afffect her with his abilties since altair is a type 1 abstract.
 
Schnee One said:
Her passive Causality Hax despite it being shown that it clearly is not passive.
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The Fourteenth Movement of the Cosmos - The Vicissitude of Fortune: Reverses the principles of cause of effect, resulting in an attack that should have damaged her instead damaging the attacker. This ability is passive and doesn't require either movement or verbalization to use.
 
Tony di bugalu said:
So, what stops the Concept Manip type 2 from destroying her here?
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reflecting it with causality.Altair is a type 4 concept.Type 2 and 4 are vastly different concepts
 
Movement or verbalization is not passive, it's thought based.

I'll try to fix that in a CRT real fast if nobody has any issues with that right now.
 
Type 2 concepts are superior to type 4 concepts. Being able to kill a type 2 concept means you can kill a type 4 concept
 
Schnee One said:
Movement or verbalization is not passive, it's thought based.

I'll try to fix that in a CRT real fast if nobody has any issues with that right now.
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Cant ignore the fact that she reflected alicetaria's attack even when Altair herself couldnt even react to it
 
Tony di bugalu said:
Yeah, Type 2 is infinitely superior, so how is she gonna reflect it? She had feats of reflecting type 2 concepts?
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she has reflected attacks on her concept before.The type has no differance since it has the same function.
 
Edwardtruong2006 said:
Type 2 concepts are superior to type 4 concepts. Being able to kill a type 2 concept means you can kill a type 4 concept
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no all the time also they are different things.Affecting one doesn`t mean you can affect the other.
 
@Oblivion Define "Can't react"

The gap between not being able to physically react to someone but being able to think before they can move is absolutely massive.
 
Tony di bugalu said:
The type is the potency of the concept, it has a big ass difference so tell me, she has feats of reflecting type 2 concepts?
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type 2 concepts are different from type 4.Affecting one doesn`t mean you can affect the other.Being superior doesn`t mean you can affect the other types.Also its not even specified what can dracula use his concept hax for.
 
Affecting a type 2 concept means you can affect a type 4. If you can affect something that exists beyond reality why can't ypu affect somethong in that reality
 
Edwardtruong2006 said:
Affecting a type 2 concept means you can affect a type 4. If you can affect something that exists beyond reality why can't ypu affect somethong in that reality
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no.They are vastly diffrent affecting something beyond reality and affecting something defined by perception is different
 
Type 4 Concepts are the weakest version of Concept hax period. Dracula has feats of manipulating a Type 2 Concept which dwarfs Type 3 and 4. The only difference is one is far stronger than the other, so yes Dracula can affect type 4 concepts.
 
Also dracula lacks the range to affect the range.Altaits concept exists on a 2B level,You need to affect the re-creators to affect her concept since her concept comes from it
 
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