A Battle of Two Martial Artists: Bang VS Jinbe (2/9/0) GRACE

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Bang: King, Kachon123

VS

Jinbe: WrongIdea21, MonkeyOfLife, Popted2, DaReaperMan, FluffyCreatureZ, NomsNoms, ZoroNotZolo, SemiRaedi, RazumaHiroki

Inconclusive:

SBA.
Bang starts in Awakening Breath(High 7-A) and jimbe is High 7-A.
Speed is equalized.
Fight takes place inside the Corrida Colosseum in Dressrosa.

 

[WrongIdea21]

colorida colosseum has water under it arena, he also can create shokewave Jinbe take this.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yee voting Jinbei via Range, Dura neg, much better Senses with Obs Haki, Stat Amp via Armament haki and Speed Amp while underwater

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[Popted2]

Jinbei FRA

 

[King]

I think Bang can take this. He can negate range (deflected rover's energy blasts.) and basically deflect almost any attack thrown at him with twice the strength. Moreover, the difference in senses shouldn't be very great. Bang can predict the future like Garou by being a master martial artist. Bang also gets a massive stat amp by using Awakening Breath. Plus, Bang can also cause him to go immobile by attacking the pressure points.(Kind of similar to dura neg).
I am going with Bang for now.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

He can negate range (deflected rover's energy blasts.) and basically deflect almost any attack thrown at him with twice the strength.

He can't negate Shockwaves....

Moreover, the difference in senses shouldn't be very great. Bang can predict the future like Garou by being a master martial artist.

Observation haki is much better.... They don't predict they future... They just predict Movements on where you can go. Observation haki let's you actually know the future before the enemy even attacks

Also Jinbes speed Amp isn't something bang can dodge, and that's without the use of obs haki

Plus, Bang can also cause him to go immobile by attacking the pressure points.(Kind of similar to dura neg).

Won't work on Armament Haki

 

[King]

He can't negate Shockwaves....

Observation haki is much better.... They don't predict they future... They just predict Movements on where you can go. Observation haki let's you actually know the future before the enemy even attacks

Also Jinbes speed Amp isn't something bang can dodge, and that's without the use of obs haki

I mean, he can deflect literal energy, I don't see why he can't.
On his, wiki page it says that he only has rudimentary Observation Haki. He isn't advanced at it. So, Bang has an advantage in this case.
Speed is equalized here.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

On his, wiki page it says that he only has rudimentary Observation Haki. He isn't advanced at it. So, Bang has an advantage in this case.

Yee rudimentary obs haki is does the thing I just. Bang doesn't have advantage in senses at all.
(Bang) Analytical Prediction vs (Jinbe) Extrasensory Perception, Telepathy, Precognition (which is much better than Analytical Prediction), Enhanced Senses, possibly Instinctive Reaction and Information Analysis

Speed is equalized here.

Stat amps still works

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I mean, he can deflect literal energy, I don't see why he can't.

He doesn't have Non Physical Interaction so No

 

[WrongIdea21]

Can deflect energy doesn't automatically can deflect a shockwave.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

This is Jinbei's Range with his Fishman karate

 

[King]

Yee rudimentary obs haki is does the thing I just. Bang doesn't have advantage in senses at all.
(Bang) Analytical Prediction vs (Jinbe) Extrasensory Perception, Telepathy, Precognition (which is much better than Analytical Prediction), Enhanced Senses, possibly Instinctive Reaction and Information Analysis

Stat amps still works

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He doesn't have Non Physical Interaction so No

Bang also has Enhanced Senses, Acrobatics/Self momentum, has instinctive reaction and attack reflection. I think you forgot to mention those.
there is literally no reason to believe that Bang's analytical prediction is inferior as this ability has not been overcome in the series.
There is no need for non-physical interaction as a shockwave is a physical phenomenon. (Contraction and Refraction of an elastic medium). My point of him deflecting the shockwave still stands.

 

[King]

Bang also has Enhanced Senses, Acrobatics/Self momentum, has instinctive reaction and attack reflection. I think you forgot to mention those.
there is literally no reason to believe that Bang's analytical prediction is inferior as this ability has not been overcome in the series.
There is no need for non-physical interaction as a shockwave is a physical phenomenon. (Contraction and Refraction of an elastic medium). My point of him deflecting the shockwave still stands.

Moreover, he can make Jinbe punch himself using WSRSF.

 

[King]

even with stat amps, their speed is still in the same tier.

 

[WrongIdea21]

Moreover, he can make Jinbe punch himself using WSRSF.

How bang would make jinbe punching himself without touching? Jinbe can damage people without touching with his shockwave, Jinbe also can made a distance before he attack Bang.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Bang also has Enhanced Senses, Acrobatics/Self momentum, has instinctive reaction and attack reflection. I think you forgot to mention those.

I was specifically only talking observation haki vs his senses... since that's literally what you where talking about

Moreover, the difference in senses shouldn't be very great. Bang can predict the future like Garou by being a master martial artist.

On his, wiki page it says that he only has rudimentary Observation Haki. He isn't advanced at it. So, Bang has an advantage in this case.

 

[King]

How bang would make jinbe punching himself without touching? Jinbe can damage people without touching with his shockwave, Jinbe also can made a distance before he attack Bang.

I already proved that Bang can deflect the shockwaves as they are a physical phenomenon. Moreover, Bang can also close the distance between him and Jinbe

 

[WrongIdea21]

I already proved that Bang can deflect the shockwaves as they are a physical phenomenon. Moreover, Bang can also close the distance between him and Jinbe

I never seen he do such a thing like deflect Shockwave, can u. Send the scan?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I already proved that Bang can deflect the shockwaves as they are a physical phenomenon. Moreover, Bang can also close the distance between him and Jinbe

What's bang doing when Jinbe's in the water and becomes much faster

 

[King]

I already proved that Bang can deflect the shockwaves as they are a physical phenomenon. Moreover, Bang can also close the distance between him and Jinbe.

I was specifically only talking observation haki vs his senses... since that's literally what you where talking about

Earlier , I said that the difference between their senses is negligible and the advantage should be with Bang due to superior martial arts.

 

[King]

What's bang doing when Jinbe's in the water and becomes much faster

Can you prove that he can blitz?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Jinbe FRA

 

[King]

I never seen he do such a thing like deflect Shockwave, can u. Send the scan?

He and Bomb were also capable of sending multiple and continuous shockwaves through elder centipede's body.

 

[King]

Bang also has a huge advantage in h2a.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Not sure if this is allowed but Jinbe can communicate with sea creatures so he would be able to use the creatures on the water to attack as well but I doubt Jinbe would need to use that

 

[King]

Not sure if this is allowed but Jinbe can communicate with sea creatures so he would be able to use the creatures on the water to attack as well but I doubt Jinbe would need to use that

How strong are these creatures and how much can they impact the fight itself.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Can you prove that he can blitz?

Never said he would blitz... I said he would be much faster

He and Bomb were also capable of sending multiple and continuous shockwaves through elder centipede's body.

1. He can only do that once 2. Jinbe can spam 3. there is still no proof of him redirecting Shockwaves

 

[WrongIdea21]

He and Bomb were also capable of sending multiple and continuous shockwaves through elder centipede's body.

Sending multiple shockwaves? It's not written in his Profile. Even though he can create a shocwave doesn't mean he can deflect shockwave.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

How strong are these creatures and how much can they impact the fight itself.

Well base luffy is mountain lvl+... They shouldn't be able to do much, mostly distract

 

[King]

Well base luffy is mountain lvl+... They shouldn't be able to do much, mostly distract

Then it mostly shouldn't matter cause Bang has high levels of concentration.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Pretty sure jinbei slaps with stat amps and durability negation, also stamina.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Oh wow didn't realize he was jinbei's friend

 

[King]

Sending multiple shockwaves? It's not written in his Profile. Even though he can create a shocwave doesn't mean he can deflect shockwave.

A shockwave is literally just a vibration. They can also be dodged via acrobatics or self momentum.

 

[WrongIdea21]

A shockwave is literally just a vibration. They can also be dodged via acrobatics or self momentum.

How he would dodge if he dont even know how the Techniques Works?

 

[King]

Pretty sure jinbei slaps with stat amps and durability negation, also stamina.

Stat amps don't help as Bang can deflect his punches and attacks at Jinbe.

 

[WrongIdea21]

Sircular argument, yes exactly.

 

[King]

How he would dodge if he dont even know how the Techniques Works?

Then I can also argue that Jinbe tries to go h2a and gets destroyed. Your argument of shockwaves is the only thing that is keeping Jinbe from losing against Bang.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

A shockwave is literally just a vibration. They can also be dodged via acrobatics or self momentum.

Dodge AOE that not even proficient obs haki can dodge? Yee no.

 

[King]

Never said he would blitz... I said he would be much faster

1. He can only do that once 2. Jinbe can spam 3. there is still no proof of him redirecting Shockwaves

I also said that Bang can dodge and close the distance.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I also said that Bang can dodge and close the distance.

Dodge AOE that not even proficient obs haki can dodge? Yee no.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I also said that Bang can dodge and close the distance.

How.

This is Jinbei's Range with his Fishman karate