A Bad Joke

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Someone please close this thread Before You discredit everything, just see what I have to say

Since Seven Deadly Sins Ocean Creation Feat has been deemed worth of not an Outlier

I'm going to try the same with Fairy Tail (Yes I realize this probably won't work)

For one thing Irene has an extremely casual High 6-B feat and August as well has a High 6-B feat albeit with Difficulty, however he is doing more, as he is destroying the country itself

The more magic you have the stronger you are, that's how it is, and the more you can affect, the higher your tier will be

In the Movies, which are canon

The Phoenix has a Continental feat and it is heavily implied that Acnologia is stronger than him, and Animus controls a power that is tens of times greater than Etherion which would be Multi-Continental, and Natsu flat out defeated him with his raw power, Wahl also has Etherion, which everyone assumes is weaker than the original, however that is never stated, and if Irene and August can achieve what they did, then this is not that far fetched, as well this will also explain how Jellal can pish back Acnologia

7-B's will become 6-B, 7-A's will become High 6-B, High 6-C's will become At least High 6-B, And 6-B, High 6-B will become 6-A to High 6-A

I know it is very far fetched, but I at least want to try and make this case

 

[ZackMoon1234]

"For one thing Irene has an extremely casual High 6-B feat"

>High 6-B limited reality warping via Universe One

"August as well has a High 6-B feat albeit with Difficulty, however he is doing more, as he is destroying the country itself"

>Large Country level environmental destruction via Ars-Magia (Was going to destroy Fiore, albeit by a suicide attack)


"7-B's will become 6-B, 7-A's will become High 6-B, High 6-C's will become At least High 6-B, And 6-B, High 6-B will become 6-A to High 6-A"

Seriously thought this was in the Funs and Games Board then checked to see, but it was invalid.

 

[LordGinSama]

Lmao no. I can tell you that this won't get accepted for various reasons which you already know. The NNT revision isn't an outlier because it's consistent with the low 6-B feat from earlier on in the series, ergo your reasoning behind this is a false equivalence. Your bias is showing.

 

[KinkiestSins]

If the movies are canon, then I guess I can chalk this up to PIS and move on from this thread.

Joking aside, personally I am neutral. I think I wanna hear more from others before I decide.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I'm trying to do this one last time, I almost know it won't get accepted but there are consistent high feats in Fairy Tail, and in the movies, so yeah I'm a bit bias, but I wanna at least try to scale

 

[TriforcePower1]

Where was it stated the movies are canon? The main source is the manga.

And I've already given my thoughts on Wahl's Etherion.

 

[LordGinSama]

There's nothing here to scale, if you did try to scale Wahl to Etherion it'd become an outlier. The gap between 7-A and 6-B / High 6-B is massive and an obvious outlier. Trust me you'll only make the state of the verse even worse by doing this.

 

[Frantzy12]

I agree with Knight FRA.

 

[CinCameron20]

Reality Warping does not translate to AP, for the last time. It is hax. It's like saying Charlotte Br├╗lée is Low 2-C because of her power. Again: It's not AP, it's hax. Irene didn't do any harm to the country. She momentarily compressed it. If she literally used energy to shrink it down to 1/10 the size, it would be illogical for it to come back in perfect condition later on.

And August could have "destroyed Fiore" in ANY number of ways that spreads across the country and deal even High 7-A energies. He was also doing it... OVER TIME, and it could very easily just be the very surface of the country being destroyed. Characters had time to react and make specific actions before any serious result happened. You can't convince anyone here that this is ... "High 6-B"

• Also, Mavis said that it was Magnolia that was going to vanish and not the entire country. August isn't even seen affecting anything outside of this.

How many times must I explain both of these cases to you? Stop trying to wank this again.

Also, lul @"Dragon Cry"

 

[KinkiestSins]

Without throwing the world outlier around like it is now the most popular world of 2018.

I will side with Knight on the issue that the jump from 7-A to even 6-B is massive.

For the record, base to base it is about 50 times.

Which I love the consistency and I am probably more neutral on fairy tail than most.

I don't think we can just scale liberally as such.

If the movies are canon, then I am probably fine just using a different etherion number or a calculation for the feat itself and calling it a day.

If not, I am hard noping this thread.

 

[TriforcePower1]

At least, if the movies are really canon, there could be something, if it's not considered outlier.

 

[George_Hatziantoni]

I don't think the phoenix movie is canon however i agree that dragon cry is. That being said there is like half a dozen country level statements throughout the entirety of the series giving the series the possibility of one day reaching such levels of power without it being an outlier and given that Natsu also underwent a powerup and so the feat again wouldn't really be considered an outlier i agree with his overpowering something that's bare minimum 20 times x etherion

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Where was it stated the movies are canon? The main source is the manga.

And I've already given my thoughts on Wahl's Etherion.

The movies are canon, they are referenced in the manga, and as for the feats being outliers, if there are continuous feats of scaling then maybe they aren't Outliers

 

[KinkiestSins]

The movies are canon, they are referenced in the manga, and as for the feats being outliers, if there are continuous feats of scaling then maybe they aren't Outliers

By this logic, Bleach would be 5-B as well since it was referenced in the manga as well.

Referenced =/= canon.

Now granted, if this does get accepted.

I will be the first to revise Bleach for the sake of wiki consistency.

But we are going to need more evidence then it just being referenced

AT BEST, it is only meriting a 'possibly' rating change for an upgrade

Not a full on upgrade.

 

[TriforcePower1]

I remember the second movie getting referenced, but the first?

And unless there's a solid statement, they're going just to be treated as non-canon references

 

[LordGinSama]

They're outliers, again the gaps between 7-B to High 6-B is massive. You're wanking on purpose just because another verse got upgraded. A lot of the Bleach movies are referenced in the Manga but we still don't accept them as Canon.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Then, unless there's autor statement of them being canon, we can't use them.

And you're the one who should prove Wahl's Etherion is as strong as the real one (even assuming he didn't call it Etherion just for show)

 

[CinCameron20]

Reality Warping does not translate to AP, for the last time. It is hax. It's like saying Charlotte Br├╗lée is Low 2-C because of her power. Again: It's not AP, it's hax. Irene didn't do any harm to the country. She momentarily compressed it. If she literally used energy to shrink it down to 1/10 the size, it would be illogical for it to come back in perfect condition later on.

And August could have "destroyed Fiore" in ANY number of ways that spreads across the country and deal even High 7-A energies. He was also doing it... OVER TIME, and it could very easily just be the very surface of the country being destroyed. Characters had time to react and make specific actions before any serious result happened. You can't convince anyone here that this is ... "High 6-B"

^^^ Also, yeah--films are non-canon unless events are specifically mentioned in-canon.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Yeah I made a big mistake, my friend wanted me to try this and I told him it would fail but he said I should still do it if I believe it, I apologize for wasting everyones time, I mostly did make this because I thought that Nanatsu no Taizai got upgraded for something that Fairy Tail also did, and yes I realize I was biased

I personally believe Bleach's movies should be accepted as canon, since Ichigo was going to destroy hell, that would push him to 5-B, which I believe he is

As for Naruto I also believe he should be 5-B but that won't happen either

I just see these kinds of feats repeatedly and think that they should be scaled, but I realize they won't be

Can someone please close this mistake of a thread

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Yeah I may have gotten a bit ahead of myself, and the real scaling I want is in this thread if anyone actually cares:https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1713611?useskin=oasis

 

[BlackeJan]

Actually no don't close this yet....I have something to say

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Like what? I tried using movies to scale and I failed pretty hard, what else is there to say

 

[BlackeJan]

Actually nvm though I'm sure that Dragon Cry is Canon

 

[1997KD]

I remember the second movie getting referenced, but the first?

And unless there's a solid statement, they're going just to be treated as non-canon references

Thier is a mnaga for 1st movie and conformation for 2nd movie, and zeref declare war in the end of movie And natsu in end from defeat animus(he later us same power in manga) also i am not forcing someone to upgrade him, and if you want you can close this thread