8-C Haxless Bracket Round 5: Batman (Post-Crisis) vs Amleth (Valkyria REevolutionn)

[Kaltias]

Amleth's intelligence?

He is the best fighter and the best alchemist of the Anti-Valkyria squad, which includes people like Gogot and Ophelia, who trained all their life, Godot being one of the best of Jutland's Royal Academy, and Ophelia having practiced swordplay since she was a toddler under the guidance of Jutland's best masters. Ophelia is also a ridiculously good alchemist in general, as shown by the fact that she can use a galdr, while it's explicitly noted that only exceptional alchemists can do that.

If you aren't talking about combat skills only, he and the Circle of Five organized the entirety of the Liberation War, and managed to make Jutland defeat the Ruzi empire (for reference), even manipulating the other superpowers to make them attack Ruz.

 

[Schnee_One]

This is such a false equivalency that it isn't funny.

The (See what I did there) is implying Sarcasm

 

[Ogbunabali]

I know that's why I said in comparison. And how much stronger and faster exactly? The batsuit has been pretty inconsistent about whether it can resist being frozen or not, so that might work but it is fireproof so he won't set him on fire.

I didn't have an attitude it was unintentional if it came out that way. And I said many times why that is a blatant mischaracterisation.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The (See what I did there) is implying Sarcasm

Yes, but it was supposed to refute your argument by saying that since batman isn't comparable to supes, they aren't comprarable to batman despite trading blows as equals.

Which is a massive false equivalence.

 

[Schnee_One]

Ameleth by himself is 1.64 Tons to Batmans .6, an over 2.5x difference in strength, with a bladed weapon no less. Amping that would make Batman incapable of blocking his blows.

Do you have scans of him breaking full body freezing? That would help.

"I see you haven't read a single word of my posts" and throwing out Hyperbole and Strawman certainly doesn't seem unintentional

 

[Ogbunabali]

Hmm the difference is actually really high, makes is it pretty decisive for Ameleth to take it then.

Well you were strawmanning me.

 

[Kaltias]

Amleth's speed amp is x2 when enraged btw (although that's a bit random).

Speed reduction is x0.5 and it's used with spells.

 

[Schnee_One]

Well you were strawmanning me.

That was the argument you yourself said, And I quote "Batman fights people vastly stronger then him on a daily"

I went against this and why it doesn't apply here, he doesn't win against people physically vastly stronger all the time as shown by Bane, but I already explained all of this and even quoted the definition of what a straw man is.

If I brought up an extremely minor part of your argument and went against only that to avoid your entire post, that would be a strawman, but physical strength is far from a minor argument.

 

[Newendigo]

In all fairness it is almost certainly missing stuff.

He is definetly, complety, absolutely, utterly, missing stuff, yes.

Gargoyle@ Rebirth Batman, Post-Crisis Batman (The one used here) fights Bane more equaly iirc.

 

[Jackythejack]

Amleth fra

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Amleth FrA

 

[Jackythejack]

Well we only need one more

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Amleth FRA

 

[Jackythejack]

Aaand this round has hit grace. Good

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Giving it to Amleth FRA

 

[The_Smashor]

Grace is over. Time for round six. (Also don't forget to add matches to unlocked profiles)

 

[The_Smashor]

Match has High 8-C Dura so he has to be replaced. Any suggestions?

 

[Jackythejack]

Wait didn't we already talk about this? I thought we did...

 

[The_Smashor]

That was a different character.

 

[Jackythejack]

Oh oof.

 

[Jackythejack]

Clearly it needs Me

 

[The_Smashor]

What are the chances of Righous Anger hitting?

 

[Jackythejack]

Just realized my link wasn't working.

Also what?

 

[The_Smashor]

Righteous Anger is an OHKO.

 

[Jackythejack]

Oh on the Mii. I dunno sorta meant it as a joke. It says it can be dodged but I dunno

 

[The_Smashor]

The OHKO is too stronk for this even if it's accuracy is poop so if nobody suggests anything by tomorrow I'll just add a character myself.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

How about Obélix?

 

[Jackythejack]

He seems like a good boi

 

[Litentric_Teon]

I also suggested Miroku Amagi earlier.

 

[The_Smashor]

Is Miroku's Mind Control combat applicable?

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

He puts a seed in a dude, and apparently he can mind control and OHKO them.

I say this as someone who has never played the game before

 

[The_Smashor]

I'll go for Obelix since Mind Control and OHKO is definiately a bit much.

 

[Jackythejack]

IS the next match up?

 

[The_Smashor]

Yes

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Psyren isn't a game, lol.

In order for him to plant a seed in someone, he has to pierce their body.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

But the verse page calls it a game... Or maybe I'm stupid

 

[Litentric_Teon]

It's definitely a manga, lol. But I'll go check it out.

 

[Litentric_Teon]

I see what you're saying. It actually doesn't say what it is, the Psyren "games" are something verse specific. But it's a manga. Perhaps I'll change the synopsis later.

 

[Crimson_Azoth]

Excellent. I'm still an idiot

 

[Litentric_Teon]

Well, at least we have our next match underway. And someone to replace the disqualified contender.

Also I feel bad for laughing at that