8-B Tournament Round 2, Match 2: Ken Kaneki vs Ashen One

[JustANormalLemon]

If this is true doesn't that invalidate the match with garaa since in that it was assumed his type 8 will work

the garaa fight was decide thinking about this self BFR thing, he won by shield negation thing

 

[Keeweed]

No you can restrict powers that are location based. The Saltborn resurrects due to a island but that island attacks the souls and minds of anyone on it, so the Saltborn matches almost never happen on the island because the location stomps majority of their opponents.

Though I thought the Ashen One resurrects at the broken bonefire. I know in Dark Souls 1 when the first bonefire stops working you can still resurrect at it as long as you don’t rest at another bonefire. And in Dark Souls 3 you can travel to broken bonefires, you just can’t rest at them.

 

[Rez]

No you can restrict powers that are location based. The Saltborn resurrects due to a island but that island attacks the souls and minds of anyone on it, so the Saltborn matches almost never happen on the island because the location stomps majority of their opponents.

Though I thought the Ashen One resurrects at the broken bonefire. I know in Dark Souls 1 when the first bonefire stops working you can still resurrect at it as long as you don’t rest at another bonefire. And in Dark Souls 3 you can travel to broken bonefires, you just can’t rest at them.

So he can still ressurect and come back (he does have dimensional travel so if he can't come back on his own he can use it)?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

So he can still ressurect and come back (he does have dimensional travel so if he can't come back on his own he can use it)?

yes, i just assumed that he would be to far away to come back... as I said I don't know how his dimensional travel works to say if It would help him come back

 

[Rez]

the garaa fight was decide thinking about this self BFR thing, he won by shield negation thing

Type 8 was one of the deciding factors

 

[Keeweed]

The dimensional travel comes from invasions, I don’t think it works with bonefires. Though you can travel to the end of time, from a point in time that isn’t the end, with a bonefire during the dlc. Also I think you can chose to invade specific people in DS3, and at the very least npcs invade specific places in Dark Souls 1.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I just want to mention even a bonefire is broken the Ashen One can still travel and use them (resurrect from them), so breaking the bonefire doesn’t get past the type 8.

And restraining the Ashen One doesn’t work, he can think and return to the bonefire via the curse.

So this seems like a massive stomp.

This might be a stomp.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Type 8 was one of the deciding factors

no, it was talked about beafore the place of the fight was cahnged, we changed It to elliminate that ressurection problem beacuse would be a stomp

 

[Rez]

no, it was talked about beafore the place of the fight was cahnged, we changed It to elliminate that ressurection problem beacuse would be a stomp

No mention of eliminating ressurection problem was mentioned in that thread

 

[Rez]

The dimensional travel comes from invasions, I don’t think it works with bonefires. Though you can travel to the end of time, from a point in time that isn’t the end, with a bonefire during the dlc. Also I think you can chose to invade specific people in DS3, and at the very least npcs invade specific places in Dark Souls 1.

I think this is enough to return back

 

[JustANormalLemon]

No mention of eliminating ressurection problem was mentioned in that thread

read again, this was lierally the reason to change the battle field

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I think this is enough to return back

this wouldn't limit him to travel troughdimensions in the dark souls multiverse?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I forgot to count the votes...

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I forgot to count the votes...

I think it's better to focus in the problem beacuse if it turns into a stomp It will be uselles to count the votes

 

[Rez]

this wouldn't limit him to travel troughdimensions in the dark souls multiverse?

Dimensional travel is an ability to move from one dimension or universe to another unless the bfr or self bfr is above 2-B or 2-A in range it will work

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Dimensional travel is an ability to move from one dimension or universe to another unless the bfr or self bfr is above 2-B in range it will work

make sense, so it's probably a stomp and the fight against Gaara is invalid because it's also a stomp

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Does anyone know for sure if this is a stomp?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Does anyone know for sure if this is a stomp?

Ashen one can't be deafeated, so it probably is

 

[RandomGuy2345]

make sense, so it's probably a stomp and the fight against Gaara is invalid because it's also a stomp

Oof. 2 stomp matches in a row...

Is Ashen One too much for the tournament or nah?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Oof. 2 stomp matches in a row...

Is Ashen One too much for the tournament or nah?

make sense, so it's probably a stomp and the fight against Gaara is invalid because it's also a stomp

most likely

 

[RandomGuy2345]

most likely

If he is too much, then @XSOULOFCINDERX will have to choose someone else, and he will have to face Gaara (@Bernkastelll) again, and he'll have to face Kaneki again.

Are y'all willing to go through that process?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

If he is too much, then @XSOULOFCINDERX will have to choose someone else, and he will have to face Gaara (@Bernkastelll) again, and he'll have to face Kaneki again.

damm

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Are y'all willing to go through that process?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

optimus wasn't also desqualified? if so just elliminate both and make Enid fight Kaneki

 

[RandomGuy2345]

optimus wasn't also desqualified? if so just elliminate both and make Enid fight Kaneki

I don't think Optimus was disqualified. They were arguments saying that he was above the AP limit, but it wasn't confirmed if he was above the limit.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Enid vs Kaneki is a interesting matchup...

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I don't think Optimus was disqualified. They were arguments saying that he was above the AP limit, but it wasn't confirmed if he was above the limit.

dammmmmm ok.... I maybe ok eith tring to follow de gaara fight again

 

[RandomGuy2345]

dammmmmm ok.... I maybe ok eith tring to follow de gaara fight again

I'm going to contact @XSOULOFCINDERX about it, and see what he says...

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Dimensional travel is an ability to move from one dimension or universe to another unless the bfr or self bfr is above 2-B or 2-A in range it will work

Rez, do you think that Ashen is too much for the tournament?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

The dimensional travel comes from invasions, I don’t think it works with bonefires. Though you can travel to the end of time, from a point in time that isn’t the end, with a bonefire during the dlc. Also I think you can chose to invade specific people in DS3, and at the very least npcs invade specific places in Dark Souls 1.

Keeweed, is Ashen too much for the tournament?

 

[Keeweed]

I don’t know how haxy this tournament is supposed to be, but judging by his last two opponents, yeah his resurrection way to op.

 

[Popted2]

i don't know wouldn't be better to just advance Kaneki in the next round?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

i don't know wouldn't be better to just advance Kaneki in the next round?

It would feel wrong to just disqualify someone instead of just giving them the time to switch their character.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Should we skip this matchup for now and move on to the next match?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Should we skip this matchup for now and move on to the next match?

Is anyone going to respond?

 

[Popted2]

Is anyone going to respond?

i agree

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Is anyone going to respond?

I think we should

 

[RandomGuy2345]

The next matchup will be Plague Knight (The_man_with_the_Midas_touch) vs Solid Snake (Popted2).

 

[JustANormalLemon]

The next matchup will be Plague Knight (The_man_with_the_Midas_touch) vs Solid Snake (Popted2).

This Will be interesting

 

[RandomGuy2345]

This Will be interesting

Hopefully it won't be a stomp or a clear cut winner like it was with the previous matches...

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Hopefully it won't be a stomp or a clear cut winner like it was with the previous matches...

The mobillyt of plague knight vs snaske arsenall will makes It a close battle

 

[RandomGuy2345]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/8-b-tournament-round-2-match-3-plague-knight-vs-solid-snake.126155/

Plague Knight vs Solid Snake has been made!

 

[Sero]

If he is too much, then @XSOULOFCINDERX will have to choose someone else, and he will have to face Gaara (@Bernkastelll) again, and he'll have to face Kaneki again.

Are y'all willing to go through that process?

Wait.........MY PLOT ARMOR KICKED IN!, LETS GOOOOOOOOO, THE PINGUIN LIVES ANOTHER MATCH

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

You know, if Hax was a huge problem you should've been more specific about what the limitations of the Combatants should've been.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

You know, if Hax was a huge problem you should've been more specific about what the limitations of the Combatants should've been.

The rules were that no OP hax were allowed. They were only allowed if the person who has those hax doesn't use them in character, in combat, or as last resorts.

"3. Hax are allowed, but nothing crazy like EE, Conceptual Manip, etc. OP hax like these are only allowed if the character doesn't use it in character, or uses those abilities as a last resort, depending on the circumstance."

This was the hax rule for the tournament.

But if I didn't specify on the limitations for hax like you said, I apologize.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

From what i seen in the others tourney thread, they were specifically said "no type 8 immortality" in their rules

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Now what? Should we just push Kaneki to the next match? Because i don't think Cinder would change the chars sooner or later

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Now what? Should we just push Kaneki to the next match? Because i don't think Cinder would change the chars sooner or later

Let's give him some time. I gave Sero days to change his character. It's only fair.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Just to make sure if he still not changing the chars, i'm the one that will change Ashen with someone

Either Shizuri Mugino or....Kocho Shinobu

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Just to make sure if he still not changing the chars, i'm the one that will change Ashen with someone

Either Shizuri Mugino or....Kocho Shinobu

I asked him if he was going to switch his character anytime soon, and he said he doesn't care at this point.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I asked him if he was going to switch his character anytime soon, and he said he doesn't care at this point.

Okay, so i guess i choose Shinobu as replacement

But these thread went to two pages so better remake it, i'll also gonna contacting Demon Slayer supporters to come when it's ready

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Just in case you wondering why i didn't chose Mugino, i'll probably save it for the classic matches instead joined in tourney matches lel

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So we're basically kicking XSOULOFCINDERX out the tournament?

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Since he doesn't care at this point, yeah

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Since he doesn't care at this point, yeah

So you basically inserting yourself in?

If you do, you gotta face Gaara and Kaneki, since this is the 2nd round and we're switching out characters in the 2nd round.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

That's fine, i also said i'm gonna contacting the other Demon Slayer supporters to come too

 

[Sero]

Let's give him some time. I gave Sero days to change his character. It's only fair.

So many rejected....so much thinking...

 

[NikHelton]

In that case, this should be even easier than the fight against Gaara since Gaara was casually stronger than Kaneki's Feat and his sand could somewhat keep up with someone who could literally Blitz him, so Kaneki isn't anything new compared to Gaara or really most of the Stuff the Ashen One has dealt with at this point. That Class M is gonna be really annoying if the Ashen One tries to use the Dark Hand, but all their other Hax should still be Viable, especially stuff like Invisibility, Freezing, Homing Attacks, Fire, Dura Neg against Shields (not sure if Kaneki has any shields but still), Acid, Poison, Shockwaves, Healing, Summons, etc.

Fire is not a problem, given that ghouls can withstand a heat of 4000 degrees Celsius

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Can someone close this thread?

A new character is being added to the tournament, so that character will have to face Gaara (Bernkastelll) and Ken Kaneki (Sero).