7-C+ Tournament Round 1, Match 6: Koon Ran vs Queen Wasp

[Lou_change]

Shit I didn't know there was a separate page for it lol, Well depending on how High it is on High 7-C koon can still break it with accumulative hits

It seems unlikely it's small and he doesn't know it's important.

 

[Nierre]

Okay well I'll still keep my vote. She doesn't have true danmaku really, she's not nearly as smart as Ran, her wasps are super easy to dodge and his stat amp makes it easier. His lightning aoe will eventually wear her down giving him the win.

 

[Razor]

It seems unlikely it's small and he doesn't know it's important.

That's fair, I'm still in favor of koon winning this though

 

[Lou_change]

Completely reasonable I am trying to get lay of the land

His lightning seems short range, speed amps only help if he can reach her, how long can he keep up forcefields and how much do they cover, doesn't that requires a Guardian also what is a Guardian.

Does her ap apply to her wasp, what about durability, and can she create wasp or is she relying on wasps in central park also how does the flight work. More importantly is the Akuma an actual threat here.

This is still the stuff I need to learn to vote.

 

[Nierre]

His lightning seems short range, speed amps only help if he can reach her,

She's not flying "out of range" her wasps have that range though. She's still very reachable, it's then if she flies higher (which i doubt since she didnt do it in character), that'll be an issue.

how long can he keep up forcefields and how much do they cover

Stamina; weaken or stop damage

doesn't that requires a Guardian also what is a Guardian.

That's for making storms, that isn't relevant here.

Does her ap apply to her wasp, what about durability

Yes.

can she create wasp or is she relying on wasps in central park

Not sure, probably create, seeing how they come out of no where.

how does the flight work.

She stands on her wasps.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

I seem to be confusing myself here..

One thing is the durability of the holder and a different thing is the durability of the Miraculous.

The Bee Miraculous wasn’t crushed by Chat Noir, it was destroyed by his Cataclysm, as it was the only thing capable of destroying them. Bringing that to the case when Cataclysm can do things like this is not a valid equivalence.

Can you send fights of her outranging opponents purposely?

There's a distinction between going on CQC and purposely outrange. For what's important, when Chat Noir attempted to go CQC on her she swatted him away instead of actually engage him.

 

[Nierre]

Her arrogant, bratty, and selfish nature isn't even new to him in the slightest. In fact, his "nemesis" Anaak, is exactly like that. He kept tempting, tricking, and taunting her making her angry and attack rashly or do something he already has a plan for, and toy with her.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Attempting to view these links, I receive an "access denied" error.

Who are you voting for?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I also find it cute how all of you are debating over who will face me next round.

 

[Nierre]

I also find it cute how all of you are debating over who will face me next round.

For what it's worth, I don't think any of them beat Johnny X lol
He's versatile and tanky af

But we'll see ig

 

[RandomGuy2345]

For what it's worth, I don't think any of them beat Johnny X lol
He's versatile and tanky af

But we'll see ig

You can't run from the whips...

 

[Lou_change]

She's not flying "out of range" her wasps have that range though. She's still very reachable, it's then if she flies higher (which i doubt since she didnt do it in character), that'll be an issue.

I already had that explained to me but thanks

Stamina; weaken or stop damage

Thanks again but how much do they cover.

That's for making storms, that isn't relevant here.

Misunderstood from the part that said it's only good inside if you aren't skilled.

Yes

Great.

Not sure, probably create, seeing how they come out of no where.

Worrying

She stands on her wasps

Thanks

I vote Koon Ran fra

 

[Razor]

One thing is the durability of the holder and a different thing is the durability of the Miraculous.

The Bee Miraculous wasn’t crushed by Chat Noir, it was destroyed by his Cataclysm, as it was the only thing capable of destroying them. Bringing that to the case when Cataclysm can do things like this is not a valid equivalence.


There's a distinction between going on CQC and purposely outrange. For what's important, when Chat Noir attempted to go CQC on her she swatted him away instead of actually engage him.

I know that, What I was saying is that when has she ever did the latter. Can you send a link to this?

 

[Lou_change]

I also find it cute how all of you are debating over who will face me next round.

That reminds me you didn't answer my question about swapping characters.

 

[Nierre]

Thanks again but how much do they cover.

They cover your whole body. It's like nen from Hunter x Hunter, or a ki barrier from Dragonball, if you've watched them. It's basically an energy shield that layers around your whole body

 

[RandomGuy2345]

That reminds me you didn't answer my question about swapping characters.

What was the question again?

Also, your vote for Koon Ran has been counted.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

I know that, What I was saying is that when has she ever did the latter.

No. She just keeps them away from her.

They cover your whole body. It's like nen from Hunter x Hunter, or a ki barrier from Dragonball, if you've watched them. It's basically an energy shield that layers around your whole body

You know, scans plox.

 

[Razor]

No. She just keeps them away from her.

What do you mean no? When? From all the links I've seen she goes into CQC not long range

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

What do you mean no? When? From all the links I've seen she goes into CQC not long range

Read your question again.

And what link you’re referring to?

 

[Imaginym]

Who are you voting for?

I have not chosen to vote for anyone.
Alternatively, I have chosen to not vote for anyone.

That isn't an Inconclusive (Inconclusive is being confident it's too unclear who'd win.) Vote, that's a "I haven't given this enough thought to give my own verdict so don't count me".

 

[Razor]

Read your question again.

And what link you’re referring to?

My question was when did she ever purposely outrange and you said no.

, ,

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

My question was when did she ever purposely outrange and you said no.

Yes.

, ,

The first one is Queen Bee, not Queen Wasp.

She doesn’t goes into CQC in the second one.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So many unavailable videos in this thread lol

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

So many unavailable videos in this thread lol

This one is because it's not allowed on other sites. You can see them just fine on YT.

or at least I Can.

 

[Razor]

Yes.

The first one is Queen Bee, not Queen Wasp.

She doesn’t goes into CQC in the second one.

Yes or no aren't answers to a when question.

And how would that affect her strategy.

She doesn't purposely outrange either, He starts at a few meters away from them

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Never expected this fight of all of them would reach 3 pages and 200+ comments long.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Yes or no aren't answers to a when question.

I understood "if she".

And how would that affect her strategy.

They apply their venom differently.

She doesn't purposely outrange either, He starts at a few meters away from them

That's not going into CQC. SBA settles them 4 km apart. And she's indoors, she's not flying through the roof.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Because the fake monkey hasn't removed the monkey in his username.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Because the fake monkey hasn't removed the monkey in his username.

Yeah, OfLife.

 

[Razor]

I understood "if she".

They apply their venom differently.

That's not going into CQC. SBA settles them 4 km apart. And she's indoors, she's not flying through the roof.

Again, How does that change her battle tactics?

The sports festival stadium isn't even 2 kilometers long

 

[Lou_change]

Is the Akuma an actual threat here.

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Again, How does that change her battle tactics?

That she attacks with her wasps.

The sports festival stadium isn't even 2 kilometers long

I don’t make the rules here.

Is the Akuma an actual threat here.

if it gets out, probably an incon outcome.

 

[Razor]

That she attack with her wasps.

I don’t make the rules here.



if it gets out, probably an incon outcome.

Link?

Neither do I, If the location of the fight isn't 4 kilometers long how tf will they be 4 kilometers apart, The 4 kilometers thing is there for when the range isn't specified.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yeah, OfLife.

You will never know what monkey means.

 

[Lou_change]

I would like to point out she doesn't actually have the ability to create wasp on their profile.

 

[Razor]

So she just controls already existing wasps?

 

[Monkey_Dunno]

Link?

Go to the last video you shared

Neither do I, If the location of the fight isn't 4 kilometers long how tf will they be 4 kilometers apart, The 4 kilometers thing is there for when the range isn't specified.

Location and initial distance are different things and battles can take place outside of the settled place at least on the exemplified in the SBA page.

That said, @RandomGuy2345 is the one who can tell how far they initially are.

 

[Razor]

Go to the last video you shared

Location and initial distance are different things and battles can take place outside of the settled place at least on the exemplified in the SBA page.

That said, @RandomGuy2345 is the one who can tell how far they initially are.

She used wasps but didn't outrange them, she was like meters away from them.

What do you mean? The location is literally there for there for the fight to take place, It won't make sense if they can just simply go out of it

 

[Lou_change]

So she just controls already existing wasps?

It seems unclear but she doesn't have the power listed and we aren't supposed use stuff off the profile we have to add it.

 

[Razor]

It seems unclear but she doesn't have the power listed and we aren't supposed use stuff off the profile we have to add it.

Eh I don't really think it matters a lot here