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2-C Dragon Ball Super upgrade
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Yes, it only gives at least ratings, which they currently are
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Huh, is that all you have? We've seen all over dragon ball many characters just running away from enemy attacks, these being less, equal or more powerful, Broly SSJ > Base gogeta.... Gogeta SSJ was clearly superior to Boly SSJ, just because he took 2 hits at the beginning doesn't mean anything, since gogeta practically humiliated broly after that.
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Yeah but they fought in the manga which is also a canon source
Whis statements was either a joke or solely based on the armwrestling
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There have been cases in which they are have done that for, especially when a character was very near the top of a tier, it just doesn't normally happen above tier 6
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Guys, derailing is going on, let’s get back. So do we agree that UI Goku, BUW Jiren and SSJB are 2-C?
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Is this true? Why not? Someone verify.
Also guys stop derailing, what is the point of base gogeta being stronger than goku and vegeta?
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Really? Have any examples? Even so, this doesn’t seem like one of them, and is still just at least
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Well, I just came to clear things up about the fusion, Base gogeta > Goky and veggeta SSB.... And same case with Vegito, the nature of the fusion is even said in the DBZ manga and in the official magazines. So bye
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I see no issue with possibly especially if the gap is big like this, at least is the lower cap but they can possibly be at 2-C as well, it's logical.
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When did we say that he is massively stronger? We said he either stalemate or loses after a long fight
Possibly win but that's far fetched
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GUYS, derailing, this shall be discussed another time, right now, the only relevant discussion is new 2-C characters
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And you continue? Exactly broly could keep up against Gogeta SSJ, but what could broly do? only receive attacks without stopping, some other counterattack but could not touch gogeta, it was later when broly became SSJ Full Power that could counter Gogeta SSJ and then he could not do anything against gogeta SSB... You are insinuating that Broly didn't stomp frieza since frieza was able to fight him for an hour or I don't remember how long it was, but what could frieza do? Nothing right??? just take hits.... So would be the case of gogeta SSJ vs Broly SSJ
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^^^^^
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Ups ... Sorry xD
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I find this very relevant, if super saiyan Gogeta was beating up broly, who is comparable to berrus then his SSB form would Definitely Be 2-C
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I really don't see where your getting this given what I recall of the movie
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And I said the opposite? LSSJ broly was able to stop SSJ Gogeta's offensive, but as soon as gogeta became SSB broly didn't stand a chance.
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And I recall- them just not fighting enough to get a read on the scale? I haven't seen the movie in a while, a rewatch might be needed to sort this out
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Yes, FPSSJ Broly never landed one hit on SSJB Gogeta, and that’s that. Please, no more derailing
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Well- I reter to my prior reply to you
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I wasn't talking to you.
If you're referring to Gogeta with the yellow hair, then he was curb-stomped by LSSJ Broly (the one with the green haired) and needed to turn into Super Saiyan Blue to overwhelm him. You're implying that SSJ Gogeta = Beerus.
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Sorry man... this is the last time so excuse me
Same with gogeta base, I never said gogeta base > broly SSJ, I said Gogeta base > SSB goku and vegeta, and I always remarked that gogeta base was not enough to face broly, but it was never seen that Broly could Stomp gogeta base, obviously as time went by gogeta base would lose that's why I remarked that he became SSJ to face him and overcome him.
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And as far as I recall... Gogeta just- wasn't being beaten that bady- I recall they hardly fought. Maybe super gogeta could be stronger then beerus if the facts support it.
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SSJ Gogeta is not stronger or equal to beerus, Broly LSSJ was what goku used as a reference to beerus, and SSJ Gogeta could not against LSSJ Broly, he had to become SSB to overcome it.
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Please tell me what the hell is the point of this gogeta vs broly debate? Gogeta stomped Broly gg give him 2-C and broly stays the same, maybe give him possibly 2-C but that's what we're supposed to be discussing.
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Well if Gogeta could fight broly evenlyish in SS, or even just not get stomped, then him just getting 2 times stronger from SS to SSB is far more believable.
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I don’t think Broly should even have a possibly let alone a 2-C at all. He was completely stomped by Gogeta. Same for UIO3 Goku and FP Jiren, these forms are stomped by their next keys
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Considering broly himself is directly compared to beerus, the halfway point that's fair.
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Yeah, he’s already At least Low 2-C, so he should remain
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I have a doubt... Goku said that Broly could be superior to Beerus... But in that time Beerus has never shown his maximum power to goku, so goku's statement should be wrong because goku doesn't know Beerus's maximum power.
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This has come up alot, jiren was stated to be comparable to a GoD, the halfway point to 2-C, Goku is likely scaling and basing his judgments off of him, therefore he is reliable enough for the ratings
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It was said that Jiren was superior in "destructive power" to his God of destruction.
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