Do These Concepts Look Like Low 1-A

[Lycoris4812]

I want to see if I can scale the Daos of Space and Time to Low 1-A.

• Covenants of Nature = Universal Laws
• Tao = Dao

Due to this statement:

"Haha, you may have just turned a calamity into a terrifying boon as you use it like a springboard to elevate yourself higher. You should have just been playing around with little Laws of Nature, but can you now feel the Tao? The Dao? Some weavings of Existence look at things from a different perspective. How far are you from being able to sense the boundaries of Extremes, or even Extremity itself? This...is just marvelous as I truly have to get a drop of your blood. You are turning out to be as unique as another anomalous entity, another version of me met in a different timeline of existence entirely. Osmont, he was called. His drop of Blood...made far too many things possible for me as I feel like yours would do the same. So what do you say?"

Spoiler: The Universal Laws

This was one of the groups of beings from another world that was currently moving in the Lost World for their own purposes. They were prolific powerhouses that held a level of power across a few worlds as their system of strength focused on the fundamentals of the world.

"I have just picked up the techniques of traversing the Ultimate Law of Death from the Imperial Library. I can cultivate the law for the first time in front of you as you see my comprehension!
"Hoh?" An interested light erupted from Anastasia as she nodded.
"I cannot sense any concepts of death within you, good. Let's see what you have."

With every passing second of the last three hours, he had been feeling like he was a massive tree that was only growing more and more branches- each one connected to a covenant as he became unfathomably in tune with these... concepts. Yes. Concepts. This was what he felt they actually were- ideas that were relegations of nature itself, and thus they were called Covenants! Regulations to be followed.

The World of Cultivation was a special Prime World where its inhabitants were actively studying and interpreting the laws that made up the world and the larger universe. It was a group of extremely powerful beings that could be considered to have a footing in the vast space filled with many stars.

"The Covenant of Death. The Covenant of Life. The Covenant of Light, Fire, Air, Earth, Space... all the countless Covenants that make up the nature of our Worlds."

The Universal Laws can be summed up as the fundamental concepts that make up the universe.

A title granted to those with complete comprehension of the law of Fire. All fire-related skills will exhibit their power at the level of a Controller regardless of their rank, the user beginning to embark on truly understanding the essence of Fire.

They are the essence of their particulars.

[Law(s) : Life-100%, Death-100%, Aether- 100%, Karma-100%, Fate-100%, Chaos-100%, Light-100%, Dark-100%, Space-100%, Time-100%, Fire-100%, Water-100%, Earth-100%, Air-100%]

There are 14 Laws.

"The Covenant of Nature... Water. I have yet to truly grasp this abstruse Covenant that governs the nature of what we all know to be the element of water."

The Universal Laws govern the nature of their particulars.

"What is Gold?" Gold. Just what was it exactly? As he asked himself this, his eyes closed while a terrifying aura began to bud within him. His Enneagram shone brightly on his chest as it began to gain bolded lines around its sockets. Gold. Gold was brilliance. Gold was strength. Gold was arrogance. Gold was of immense purity as that which was impure is altered with its presence. For someone who completely understood gold, they grasped every single variation of its being and could freely express it!

The Universal Laws govern all variations of their particulars.

Now, there's not really any statements of the Universal Laws being independent of their particulars, so they are kind of stuck at CM2. Not sure if they still qualify as Low 1-A, but Dao's, are definitely CM1, which I'll cover in the next section, so maybe they'll be Low 1-A.

Spoiler: Daos

A concept of Destruction! From Noah's knowledge, he knew that this must be the stage above laws... the stupendous realms of Universal concepts known as Daos!

The Entity residing in the Burning Domains who enhanced the strength of Fiends was actually studying the Dao of Vitality! She had long since mastered and assimilated the Law of Life thousands of years ago, where she then touched upon the deeper concepts of Vitality as she stepped upon the path of this Dao. This was the only reason she had kept her life when faced against a being with strongly Offensive based Dao of the Sword.

Dao! Above laws, there was the concept of Daos!

Daos are concepts that are above and exist on a deeper level than the Universal Laws.

This was because she had been locked up in the Great Sage Aoin Tower this tole time while comprehending her Grand Dao of Destruction and was actually on the cusp of fully mastering it!
But since she hadn't been able to do what her Dao stood for, she couldn't finish that last step! But now, she was being provided a battlefield where she could carry out destruction on a large scale...a battlefield for her to home her abilities and possibly approach the rank of an Entity!

Daos represented their particulars.

"I will not lose...but what will you do? The Sea of Ruination is already ripping apart the portion of the Cosmos torn apart from its home...this Universe will completely be devoured as it does not have the protection of the Primordial Cosmos anymore!" "Will you try and take my life as you grant me the Cosmic Dao? Or will the inevitable destruction of this Universe give it to me? Either way...I win!" RUMBLE
"The moment that I do step on the path of the Cosmic Dao...I will have my main body and soul finally freely traverse the Sea of Ruination as I will come to this destroyed universe to take with me a Cosmic Treasure, your strength next to the full power of my body and soul being negligible!

Daos still exist even if their particulars are destroyed.

But within the Temporal Enneagram Space, 10 hours had gone by as Alexander had now truly and thoroughly gotten acquainted with what Taos were and what they represented. At this moment, thick and heavy accumulation of seas that were so thick that even the most adept fish could drown pervaded the Temporal Enneagram Space. Thick seas of authority that seemingly constructed... the very surroundings that Alexander always knew of. The surrounding space outside of stars. The surrounding skies and earth of Ephesus and many others. All of them...had governing authorities that mixed in together to keep their stability. All across space, The Grand Tao of Space-Time permeated and held everything together.

Daos encompasses all of their particulars.

After forming the Supermassive Empyreal Galaxy, he always felt like his assimilated Covenants of Nature were reaching out towards something he could barely grasp. Now, this thing was very clear as he currently felt all the Covenants of Nature leading towards grand directions! Some in the same direction, others in different directions. But those directions were... "The Tao..." Majestic rulings containing authorities of many Covenants of Nature as they oversaw the Cosmos one was in!

But when he closed his eyes as inside of his Enneagram, more and more Supermassive Empyreal Galaxies were being born, the concentrations of Covenants of Nature reached never before observed levels as he was able to follow them to touch upon grandiose rivers of authority! Rivers that seemed to be connected to a vast sea as the one he felt most familiar with currently was one that he followed due to the dense concentrations of Gold. He followed this line of connection as he sought the identity of the Tao he could most closely feel! And lucky for him, he was not alone. He had the Enneagram. With the recent breakthrough of multiple Supermassive Empyreal Galaxies, the Core Features of the Enneagram were undergoing tremendous changes as there was one, in particular, relating to authorities that made things rather interesting! |The Core Feature of The Reformer of the Enneagram has been unlocked to its Minor Empyreal Stage. Under its renewed brilliance, every grasped Covenant of Nature increases your rate of Understanding and Assimilation of all Covenants of Nature by 5,000% and the unfathomable authorities of the Tao by 1,000%. You can now begin sensing and understanding the endlessly complex Taos governing the musings of Reality that others can only dream of.||

It made it even easier for Alexander as the moment he sought to understand exactly what Gold and a few other Covenants were leading him to, the space above him split open as he began to observe a Tao filled with emboldened golden radiance. A Tao that encompassed The Covenant of Gold and many more things inside of it...it was the Tao of... "Chrysopoeia..."

Daos are considered the final destination or ultimate collection of the Universal Laws.

My argument is that since these concepts encompass all variations of their particulars, something like the concept of space or time would encompass all extensions or dimensions of space and time, aligning with what Ultima said about the concepts of space and time being Low 1-A.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

No nothing Low 1A about it just type 1 concept.

 

[Lycoris4812]

No nothing Low 1A about it just type 1 concept.

Idk, it kinda checks all the boxes, Ultima said.

Concept type 1 are (low-)Outerversal level

In new tiering system outerversal level basically are meta level, that trully superior from all level of reality that cannot getting reached no matter how far you stacted the reality it self Soo what about Concept type 1?? These concept are fully independent from all reality and are the source...

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[Lycoris4812]

Bump.

 

[Quantumnessmechanics]

Unlikely. I see CM2 for Universal Laws and CM1 for Daos, but nothing suggests Low 1-A as far as I can see.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Infinite mana in the Apocalypse?

 

[Lycoris4812]

Unlikely. I see CM2 for Universal Laws and CM1 for Daos, but nothing suggests Low 1-A as far as I can see.

The Universal Laws encompass all variations of their particulars, so space should encompass all extensions of space like how Ultima defined it.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

The Universal Laws encompass all variations of their particulars, so space should encompass all extensions of space like how Ultima defined it.

Theres a difference between all variations and all possible variations.

So like if there exists 10 different chairs in existence all distinct in some way, these would still technically count as "all variations".

 

[Quantumnessmechanics]

The Universal Laws encompass all variations of their particulars, so space should encompass all extensions of space like how Ultima defined it.

Sure, but he also said this:

The essence is the source of all particular spatiotemporal things, to which they owe their existence while it itself owes nothing at all to them and subsists separately and independently from them.

In that thread, he only talks about Type 1 concepts. Universal Laws are only Type 2, so they scale to whatever amount of space the cosmology has.

 

[Lycoris4812]

Theres a difference between all variations and all possible variations.

So like if there exists 10 different chairs in existence all distinct in some way, these would still technically count as "all variations".

Hmm true.

Sure, but he also said this:

In that thread, he only talks about Type 1 concepts. Universal Laws are only Type 2, so they scale to whatever amount of space the cosmology has.

And thats why I have the Daos here.

 

[Quantumnessmechanics]

And thats why I have the Daos here.

Then sure, per Ultima's criteria, they would qualify. Though, I don't think it will work in a CRT.

 

[Lycoris4812]

Infinite mana in the Apocalypse?

Yuh, ain't allowed on the wiki anymore, but I still want to see how it scales. Maybe do some fun and games matches.

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Theres a difference between all variations and all possible variations.

So like if there exists 10 different chairs in existence all distinct in some way, these would still technically count as "all variations".

All possible variations of anything the way you are talking it is High 1-A+
You don't need "all possible" statements to get low 1-A or even 1-A. Remark, even all possible can also be any finite or infinite variations.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

All possible variations of anything the way you are talking it is High 1-A+
You don't need "all possible" statements to get low 1-A or even 1-A. Remark, even all possible can also be any finite or infinite variations.

If you encompass all dimensions that could possibly exist too (or whats in potential or possibility) then thats pretty blatantly low 1-A lol. It's not limited to cosmology at that point. Also high 1-A+ requires more specific stuff.

 

[TheUnshakableOne]

Yuh, ain't allowed on the wiki anymore, but I still want to see how it scales. Maybe do some fun and games matches.

Why is it off the wiki again?

Also im on Chapter 809 at the moment and unless im forgetting something im currently not seeing any tier 1 stuff

Daos seem more like Laws of nature than concepts to me

Now Nomological Edicts those are seeming a lot more like concepts but currently they're not explored super in depth where im at yet

 

[Lycoris4812]

Why is it off the wiki again?

Connected to powerscaling terminology.

Also im on Chapter 809 at the moment and unless im forgetting something im currently not seeing any tier 1 stuff

Ignoring the concept scaling, it comes way later. Stacks of significant spaces + time axis on top. You can see everything on AFBW.

Daos seem more like Laws of nature than concepts to me

I got scans about them being literally called concepts up above.

Now Nomological Edicts those are seeming a lot more like concepts but currently they're not explored super in depth where im at yet

They aren't really; they are a self-created power made by combining Daos and Laws. An authority of sorts.