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Exactly what it says on the tin, since Jean-Paul and Cassandra are arguably two of the best fighters in the batfamily, it would be interesting to see who would take the victory, especially considering their somewhat similar origins. SBA, both are in character, Cass gets access to all her...
Very simple revision here, I just want to add these scans to Batgirl’s speed justification in her second key.
When not holding back, she struck Batman so fast that he didn’t perceive it. (Batgirl Vol. 1 #1, April 2000)
Casually dodged attacks from Batman. (Batgirl Vol. 1 #9, December 2000)
She...
[Redo of an old thread because I didn't want to necro]
It was a dark night in Gotham City. As was to be expected, criminal activities reared their heads in various forms. However, in the black abyss of the Gotham night, there would be shadows, and one in the shadows to strike fear in their...
Speed Equalized
Batgirl is in her second key.
Both have all their optional equipment except for Cassandra's Dimensiometer and Skipper's inflatium.
Kowalski! Analysis!:
The One Who Is All:
Incon:
I meant to make this ages ago and I kinda just forgot
Cassandra Cain is the greatest martial artist of the 21st century and Val Armorr is the greatest martial artist of the 31st century, now it’s time to see who holds the title of the greatest of all time.
Both at 8-C with speed equalized...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:LordTracer/Lady_Shiva
Y’all should know the drill by now. New page to replace the current bad page.
Also a minor revision to Cassandra Cain’s keys. (I know there’s reference errors, they should be fixed once it gets inserted into her page)
Cassandra Cain vs Valkyrie Cain
Cassie gets all her optional equipment, except the Dimensiometer
Speed Equal
Pre-Surge Valkyrie
Pre-Death Cassandra
SBA otherwise
Who wins?
This will be the first part of a big project to revise the pages for (most of) the Batman-related characters, because if we’re being honest, almost every page aside from Batman himself is sub-par, if not downright bad.
Potentially calcable feats
Before I show my rework for Cassandra Cain’s...
Can't believe this has yet to be fixed, but the MHS calcs for DC Comics are straight up wrong and have been known to be wrong for like 2 years.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/DC_Speed_Feats_Recalculations_%2B_New_Calculations
Calculations to pick from...
Powers and Abilities
Pressure Points: She stops someone's heart and then makes it beat agai.
Stealth Mastery: She effortlessly sneaks into a facility.
Enhanced Senses: She located an invisible person through just smell.
Accelerated Development (Passive; Abilities): Learns 127 styles of...
They're two of the only people that have beaten Lady Sbiva in a legitimate fight, so let's see who wins between the two of them.
The Bat:
The Drago:
Inconclusive:
Both 8-C. Who takes the win here?
The man who broke the Bat:
The true successor of the Bat: 7 (GODZILLA1GAMER, Ionliosite, LordUrien935, BrazilianDeadpool, Zark2099, KLOL506, AbcMac23)
Inconclusive:
Now that the Marvel 8-As have been downgraded, I can finally do this. A battle between two of the best characters to ever come out of Marvel and DC.
Both 9-A. Speed equalized.
Laura: 5 (Sonuske, Sir Ovens, Zark2099, CalebTB12, Ayewale)
Cass: 3 (Milly Rocking Bandit, Ionliosite, Modernmyrmido)...
Sometime ago I made this thread: Cassandra Cain Tiering Justificatio, and got Cass some better reasonings for her AP and speed. Looking back at it, and some other things, I realize Cass' AP and maybe speed should have been upgraded due to a few things.
1. She's scaled to Deathstroke...
Not really trying to revise anything, but I feel like some of the feats listed at the bottom of Cass' page that could be used to justify her attack potency and speed more than just scaling her to Katana.
Namely, her feats of one-shotting Lady Shiva with a broken arm, taking out a mob so fast...
Let's get into the details of this versus thread.
-Speed Equalized
-Both in Character
-Location: Open field
-Range: 2.5 meters
-Win via death
Votes:
Cassandra: 0
Amelia: 0
https://pastebin.com/A08cqHpz
According to this, DC heroes (mainly from Post-Crisis) have numerous speed and energy feats that far exceed their current ratings
Energy:
Katana vs Pistole KE: 0.039 tons (9-A)
Katana vs Uzi KE: 0.13 tons (9-A)
Katana vs Uzi 2: 0.21 tons (9-A+)
Katana vs Jet...
One of the feats on her profile was calcd by LordXcano with a Supersonic+ result
I don't see anything wrong with the calc
Also, pretty sure Batma and others would likely scale, I'm wrong?