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  1. Hiei312

    Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

    i mean if you start accepting these "infinite" feats it becomes controversial when you dont accept some of them. and these often include nonsense like Jiren shaking an infinite realm or superman lifting an infinite book and such.
  2. Hiei312

    Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

    ok, heres the exact quote from the official release in my country's dragonball run. mind you this is significantly different from the VIZ release text, but the reason i trust this more is because, this particular run of dragonball in Brazil had very , very literal translations from the japanese...
  3. Hiei312

    Death Battle Season Eight Discussion Thread (2) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

    i'm not sure if this was already mentioned, but unless this got retconned, 17 and 18 were actually revealed to not be cyborgs at all when bulma analyzed their blueprints in the original manga She says they are "humans modified with organic substances". and even specificaly mentions that this is...
  4. Hiei312

    Android 17 vs Frieza (end of DBS)

    bump.
  5. Hiei312

    Android 17 vs Hit

    17 fought a stronger version of Jiren and has way better feats (AP and dura wise) than hit if you take that into context. 17 actually managed to inflict considerable damage twice, and withstand attacks several times, from a more powerful Jiren than the one Hit got essentially stomped by. this...
  6. Hiei312

    Android 17 vs Frieza (end of DBS)

    the last remaining members of Universe 7 besides Goku, battle to the death. in character https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Freeza https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Android_17
  7. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    eye contact is something that just happens naturally. no one is gonna avoid it , unless they know beforehand that it is dangerous. you really think Urahara is not gonna look at his opponent's face when the fight starts? he will want to see what the opponent looks like..it's natural, everyone...
  8. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    Aizen is someone Urahara had every reason to absolutely hate even then after his first attack he sepnt 6 or 7 pages talking to him while looking directly at him. same with his recent fight against Askin...lot of talking. he mostly fights at close range. even while attacking eye contact could...
  9. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    sure, he could do all of that but its all out of character (esp the gigai thing..why would he even think to do that?). as uninteresting as it is, based on what we've seen, the most likely outcome is that hes gonna start the fight trying to gauge Itachi at close range. and he's gonna look at...
  10. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    i think ther are also rules to prevent that from going too out of control though like, if Itachi has been shown to require eye contact to use genjutsu, he'll still need eye contact even if the equalization would otherwise make his genjutsu more effective. and the upper limits of his...
  11. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    well..it isn't fair but you have to agree it'd also be horribly unfair to remove genjutsu from mr genjutsu. it'd be like removing the healing factor from wolverine. ...maybe just ban high level genjutsu users like Itachi from fighting bleach characters? or at least just Itachi himself since...
  12. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    uh..well..all i can do is bring up the rules... Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the...
  13. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    Your agument is correct, and that has already been brought up countless times in other topics However Genjutsu is accepted to work as part of verse equalization rules. its simply treated as a telepathic power. otherwise no one would even be able to perceive or interact with Bleach shinigamis...
  14. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    sorry, i didn't mean to sound insulting or anything it was just funny to me because NFL is a football league.
  15. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    NFL? football? you mean NLF? lol the request to add urahara's victory was made when the topic had like 10 posts and almost no arguments...i already made a request to revoke it, or add it to inconclusive, as a lot of arguments have appeared since then and even in terms of votes it now should...
  16. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    except that's not how urahara fights, and this is in character. if this was Kenpachi or someone like that, i could maybe see it happening and blitzing wouldn't do anything anyways since Itachi regenerates and is immortal. not to mention he might glance at Itachi's eyes in the midst of his...
  17. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    it doesn't look like it because Kishimoto can't draw a properly looking young Itachi -_- http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=267430 but he was likely 11 at that point, in the original manga at least.
  18. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    well, oro lost to Itachi twice actually...the second time was when Itachi sealed him with the blade of totsuka. this is the first time, which i mentioned http://********.me/manga/naruto/v38/c345.1/9.html http://********.me/manga/naruto/v38/c345.1/10.html he tried to attack itachi but was...
  19. Hiei312

    The Official Versus Match-ups Addition Request Thread

    That Urahara vs Itachi topic was reported really early before most of the arguments showed up (i think it only had like 8 posts) if you look now there's a ton of things being discussed, and a lot of people have since then either gone for Itachi or inconclusive. someone even changed their vote...
  20. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    getting blitzed by what? he's immortal and regenerates almost instantly. rushing in to blitz itachi would only be bad for Urahara. Itachi genjutsu'd orochimaru into submission when he was like 11 years old..Oro was likely stronger than Itachi at that point, overall. being stronger doesn't...
  21. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    he only resorted to Bankai when he lost his sight, as a way to heal. also even with his body strengthened we don't know if that moves him beyond city level. that rating is actually from scaling to Aizen, not through actual feats. not to mention Itachi is an immortal regenerating zombie here...
  22. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    Urahara's AP is city level, which around the upper limits of other powerful characters Itachi has fought. in fact lower than Nagato or Bijuu mode Naruto
  23. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    obviously he can't stop things like reality, time, probability. causality or concept hax , at that point the attack is no longer even affecting itachi himself (its affecting a primal force/concept of the universe as a whole) so the shield won't stop it Urahara's attacks though are regular...
  24. Hiei312

    Urahara vs Itachi

    how on earth is urahara gonna beat an Itachi with infinite chakra? Itachi has the best defense in naruto...(the yata mirror). with infinite chakra he can just use that to block everything forever. the databook says yata mirror literally makes every type of technique innefective (elemental...
  25. Hiei312

    Hit vs. Superman (Pre-Crisis)

    but his totally absurd speeds rely on acceleration over time no? which should make him considerably slower in combat
  26. Hiei312

    Kirito and asuna vs guts and Clare from Claymore

    Guts and Clare stomp in real life or probably get stomped if its everyone playing a character in SAO >_>
  27. Hiei312

    Freddy Krueger vs Itachi

    IIRC Freddy's powers are based on fear. if you don't fear him, he can't do much of anything to you even in dreams with the totally *****ed up life Itachi had, i don't think Freddy is going to scare him. he was also unable to properly finish off Jason (who's much weaker than Itachi in every...
  28. Hiei312

    Thor vs. Super Buuhan

    universal attacks? I think you're refering to rune king thor there...
  29. Hiei312

    Big Boss vs Geralt of Rivia

    in honor of 2 of the best games of 2015... Geralt has his best armor and weapons equipped and fully upgraded, also assume he has full acess to every single sign and skill in Witcher 3 at max power, and all his potions, decoctions , oils and such at hand Big Boss has the fully upgraded versions...
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  30. Hiei312

    Lord Boros vs Raditz

    Boros is likely planetary now isn't he? pretty sure he stomps Raditz.
  31. Hiei312

    Goku can't beat pre crisis superman?

    the problem with pre crisis superman is that a ton of his arguments are no limit fallacies relying on writter intent. "pre crisis supes was written to be invincible! that's the point of his character, he can make up new powers and will always be stronger than whatever he fights" See, that's...
  32. Hiei312

    A new Naruto manga is confirmed!

    http://www.saiyanisland.com/2015/12/naruto-shippuden-itachi-uchiha-anime-confirmed/ will this be considered canon if supervised by Kishimoto?
  33. Hiei312

    How does Beerus' Ki nullification feat make him Universe-level?

    , Umm... So if a character in fiction says "you are a bug compared to him", does that make him propotionaly as strong as a bug compared to that charatcer? That comparison doesn't work. when someone says something like "you're a bug compared to me", they're just mocking the other person, or...
  34. Hiei312

    Shadow the Hedgehog vs. Dark Pit

    Shadow wins with chaos control anyways.
  35. Hiei312

    Whis vs Entire GT?

    there's a lot of problems with that first its hard to find out whether that's actually what it's saying, literally. second i'm not sure whether that'd even be considered canon enough to be taken into account.
  36. Hiei312

    SSJ Bardock (Episode Of Bardock) vs 1st Form Frieza

    zenkais make no sense Goku went from..what, 90K base power? against Ginyu...to likely millions..with 1 zenkai. add in a probable massive (and also totally nonsensical) rage boost for Bardock when he sees Freeza and he stomps him.
  37. Hiei312

    Game Sonic VS Game Mario

    this topic is meaningless without specifying which sonic vs which mario.
  38. Hiei312

    Beerus vs. Darkseid

    also " I believe this was the version that was melting the multiverse just by existing. " is that true? ^ because if so this is obviously a massive spite/stomp topic.
  39. Hiei312

    Beerus vs. Darkseid

    if darkseid really relying on omega beams to win i'd put this as inconclusive there's no way to know or even fairly extrapolate whether Beerus would be able to nullify them or not.
  40. Hiei312

    Game Sonic VS Game Mario

    see, the biggest problem with game Sonic is that he doesn't use his 1 particular ability that could give him a fighting chance against more powerful characters (chaos control) So unless you make him out of character, he is severely limited by PIS. I's why I think people should use Shadow...
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