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  1. Mora8

    Type 5 immortality for the gods of The Elder Scrolls?

    I agree here. It should be similar to how Aka's influence (time) only permeates through Mundus by default.
  2. Mora8

    Sotha Sil - Big Revisions

    Over the last year, two major DLCs for ESO were released. With those, we got a bunch of new Sotha Sil information. I propose the following changes: Space and Time Manipulation It's quite clear that the purpose of the Clockwork City is to perfect Tamriel/Nirn; this is acknowledged in ref 1...
  3. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls: Precognition and acausality

    Jyggalag I think that Jyggalag should gain the ability of pre-cognition. According to Dyus in the Shivering Isles downloadable content: "The great library was the height of logic and deduction. Contained within its walls were the logical prediction of every action ever taken by any creature...
  4. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    I can confirm with Shazam that the Godhead model is fan theory, or at least based on a lot of Michael Kirkbride's quotes which are not acknowledged here by most people as canon.
  5. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    @Azazoth Given more context: "Unbeknownst to all but a few, Nirn has come unmoored from the fabric of the multiverse, as the mortal realm is drawn ever closer to Coldharbour, the twisted Oblivion realm of the Daedric Prince of domination and enslavement, Molag Bal" The whole main story of...
  6. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    I'll start off with a warning: if any mods are reading this and you are getting tired of this debate, please just say so because I do not have the intent to irritate or burn out anyone here. On the contrary, if anyone is eager to dig into a lot of ES cosmology and dimensional stuff involved...
  7. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    @Gwynbleiddd If you want an actual example of the term used in an article: http://www.magichypercubes.com/Encyclopedia/b/BentHyperagonal.html It's very clear in context too, in my opinion. In Liminal Bridges it is outright stated to mean or entail extra dimensional. "Though other hyperagonal...
  8. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    @Azazoth What in particular do you believe to be speculation on my part? We have the following facts that: - {5D} Mundus is a five or six dimensional multiverse (the very term 'multiverse' directly used by lore writers) - {6D} Oblivion is infinitely larger than Mundus (directly confirmed by...
  9. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    Well I'll give my opinion on the matter. If I get anything wrong, just say, because I'm not an expert in physics and ES cosmology is really weird. Bear in mind that there are lots of other views. Even if we did not accept the 1-B feat, which I firmly disagree using at the moment unless we get...
  10. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    Hat mchant - I currently don't think a 1-B is should be applied to et'Ada yet unless we get some more evidence for Oblivion being infinite dimensional. It's more reasonable at the moment to say that Oblivion contains an infinite number of five dimensional multiverses, such as the Mundus and...
  11. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    Well some et'Ada are logically at least 5 dimensional ('hyperagonal' compared to three dimensional mortals and can control a temporal dimension) to 6 or 7 dimensional (considering that each cosmos layer is infinitely larger than the previous and they originated in Aetherius) in any case? Doesn't...
  12. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls: Downgrading the Et'ada to 2-B?

    The mods apparently lack people who are knowledgable about ES enough to make upgrades or downgrades, so I wouldn't assume that they would have the time to make this large scale downgrade unless they are bias and wish to ignore large upgrades which have been put forth over the last couple of days...
  13. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls: Downgrading the Et'ada to 2-B?

    Akatosh is a difficult case, I would have thought that they are logically placed at 2-B still without scaling. But that doesn't matter too much yet in my opinion. More importantly, I think we need to properly work out for good how to handle the Elder Scrolls profiles here before doing any...
  14. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls: Downgrading the Et'ada to 2-B?

    Scaling off Akatosh is inaccurate and time is not present throughout all of Oblivion. It is present in realms which the Daedric princes will time to be. We do not know whether it applies to enough planes to qualify for 2-A. But no one has changed this. In fact, some direct counter-evidence...
  15. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls: Downgrading the Et'ada to 2-B?

    They are scaled off Akatosh, I think. The highest Daedra feat is Sanguine creating 100,000 planes, which is 2-B.
  16. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    Riingo - As Hat mchant points out, Mundus is five dimensional because it contains parallel four dimensional universes. It is confirmed to have the capacity for parallel timelines from the ending of Daggerfall (look at the topic of dragonbreaks), it contains things known as adjacent planes (such...
  17. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    Antvasima - There is not really a fixed power level in the Elder Scrolls, it is ultimately down to individual opinions on what is valid and what isn't. Each opinion will have a knock-on effect to everything else, and this is a problem when everyone who knows about the Elder Scrolls has...
  18. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    Hat mchant - I think we've been given out of game evidence on exactly what CHIM does in the form of Vehk's teachings: "To transcend mortal boundaries set in place by immortal rulers. At its simplest, the state of chim provides an escape from all known laws of the divine worlds and the...
  19. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    Hat mchant - Yes, but the canonicity of CHIM is questionable. Many people are... to put it lightly... alergic to MK's works (although admittedly MK's higher metaphysics has been referenced a few times in canon material as of lately). Furthermore it would not enable them the power level of a 1-A...
  20. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls

    On the topic of immortality, what level of immortality would this claim from Vivec qualify as? "It is a bit like being at once awake and asleep. Awake, I am here with you, thinking and talking. Asleep, I am very, very busy. Perhaps for other gods, the completely immortal ones, it is only like...
  21. Mora8

    The God tier of The Elder Scrolls

    The infinite size and mass source is actually not too reliable I find. What is reliable are the game manuals and lore creator statements, which I believe both proclaim god realms to be infinite on at least a four dimensional scope. In terms of sources, what is valid or what is invalid is only...
  22. Mora8

    The God tier of The Elder Scrolls

    If we're going by the same standards of evidence you propose, most of the other 2A-1A characters on this site would need an immediate downgrade or removal. Dozens of 2-A to 1-A characters on here appear to be based on minor speculation or taking character statements out of context. Even some are...
  23. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls possible Upgrades and Downgrades.

    Mundus should have four spatial dimensions (containing a series of parallel three-dimensional planes or even timelines) as evident by the existence of Kaplas, Adjacent Planes and the Aedric plane(t)s which are an infinite size of infinite mass. It also likely has two temporal dimensions based on...
  24. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls possible Upgrades and Downgrades.

    Alright, makes sense. Also if you're considering upgrading TES, I would only put these things as possibilities, since we don't really know much about space/time in TES and materials surrounding it are usually quite inconsistent or even contradictory to earlier works. Later games could add to...
  25. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls possible Upgrades and Downgrades.

    Delta3000 Mortals can use Magicka, which is apparently hyperagonal or utilises a hyperagonal sense, so it would make sense that they may be able to harm Daedra. https://www.imperial-library.info/content/stepping-through-shadows...
  26. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls possible Upgrades and Downgrades.

    Would time being 2D/3D (depending on how you interpret the "dive in" bit of Septimus's quote) in Mundus also put Aka(tosh) at a possible 1-C? Urag gro-Shub in the College of Winterhold also appears to back up Septimus's claim: Player: "Who wrote the Elder Scrolls?" Urag gro-Shub: "It would...
  27. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls possible Upgrades and Downgrades.

    Gwynbleiddd 'I don't agree with using a made up word to justify any stats upgrades.' The term 'hyperagonal' is made up, but it has very genuine implications which cannot be dismissed that simply. As diagonal means two-dimensional and so on, hyperagonal means hyper-dimensional. Give the TES...
  28. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls possible Upgrades and Downgrades.

    I think the same things apply to temporal dimensions as spatial dimensions Shazam. But I could be wrong though.
  29. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls possible Upgrades and Downgrades.

    Left and right are just one dimension? Think of a line. He mentions left and right (one dimension, think of x axis), up and down (another dimension, think of y axis) and diving in (possibly z axis).
  30. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls possible Upgrades and Downgrades.

    "Time alone seems to have up to 4 dimensions on Mundus (just the mortal realm)." Isn't it 3D? "You look to your left, you see one way. You look to your right, you see another. But neither is any harder than the opposite. But the Elder Scrolls... they look left and right in the stream of time...
  31. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls possible Upgrades and Downgrades.

    I agree.
  32. Mora8

    TES giants can now apparently throw people crazy distances. Possible stat upgrade?

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:All_About_Giants This is from an ESO lorebook. "The Wood Elf Bonorion was found at the base of large hill near the area known as Cradlecrush. Given the condition of his body, that is, every bone broken, it appears that he ignored his own advice. Even the dimmest...
  33. Mora8

    I found some strange copy of this Wikia, but its insights into TES's level of power are pretty interesting.

    http://fictionalcharacterbattles.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls Yeah I really don't know. There are random clusters of nonsense words all over the place. However, the points whoever wrote this made may be something the content revisors of the TES page would want to take a look at. Though I...
  34. Mora8

    The Elder Scrolls: Who wrote this page?

    It is written by MareloRyan. He's someone dedicated to TES lore who I've briefly talked to before about that very article. You can find him on Reddit and talk to him if you like: https://www.reddit.com/user/MareloRyan
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