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Well, like Tyranno was saying, these are all supporting calcs anyway. The Valar already scale way above that, and so do the Silmarils by virtue of injuring Morgoth. Something to remember is that the gems contain the full, unadulterated light of the Trees, while the Sun and Moon were made from...
I expect they'd be broadly similar, although they did have different specialties. Saruman might not get Fire Manip to the same degree, for example, and he was certainly more skilled with machinery and production of magical artifacts.
My understanding is that temptation is very different from wresting away the agency of a sapient being. The Ring influenced people, certainly, but it never actively took away their ability to choose
I dig it! I will say that when Morgoth's stats were lowest (aka when he's weak enough that Cyn might be able to hurt him) he was no longer capable of shedding his physical form and reconstituting it at all because he'd invested too much of himself into Middle Earth. But this was a great fight...
I did love Thor absorbing Zeus' powers. That was incredibly cool and fit with his apparent Skyfather form ability to absorb insane amounts of energy from his foes, just as he did with Galactus. I just wish that Ewing would at least try to be consistent.
My understanding was that Enchantress' magic only applied to his mental state while on Earth, and that the belt he made from Zeus' portion of the Allpower cancelled it out anyway.
My thoughts are mixed on the Immortal Thor run. I've really enjoyed the story itself, but I do agree that my suspension of disbelief has been ruined multiple times by Skyfather Thor struggling against opponents he logically should have zero issue dealing with. This is a Thor stronger than the...
Oh yeah, that's the map I used in my Ancalagon vs Godzilla video from 2016. I think it ended up scaling Thangorodrim's peaks to around 135 miles across
How much of that was the serum, though, and how much of it was the fact that Walker had trained extensively before then?
Although, now that I think of it, the leader of the Flagsmashers seemed physically stronger than Bucky and was a teenage girl. So that would indicate that serum was much...
That's the funny thing with scaling Tolkien in general, First Age onward. There are a lot of ways to interpret scaling that are all equally valid "headcanons".
That was very vague downscaling from the 4-A+ tier that many physical bodies of the Maiar and Valar were put at. Nowadays I hesitate to scale the Ringwraiths at all since their powerset is very specific and their stats are potentially all over the place.
Oh man, you've seen all the old stuff then haha. I REALLY need to redo some of those (especially Ancalagon vs Godzilla). I'm glad to hear that you liked them!
I'm mainly a lurker on Vs Battles, and the only verses I really make any contributions to are Tolkien and Marvel. It's fun to drop in...
I'll be making some LotR scaling videos on my YouTube channel to help people realize how strong the verse is, but that might be a while out. I have some older LotR vids on my main channel but I've switched to a paleontology focus there
I wonder if they'll ever go into a deep explanation of how Thor's inner life-essence empowers him to such absurd degrees. I absolutely love it, as a main Thor fan, but I do have questions about where that power comes from that apparently is comparable to the strongest abstracts.