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Isn't that like saying "Mjolnir did not tank a dying star. It was forged into a hammer later."?
f we use the forging to scale one item's durability, we should do it for all. And it's directly stated that they were forged by the Big Bang
You were the one who added the emphasis on energies. Not me. You are blatantly ignoring my point and instead trying to turn it into something it is not.
No. I didn't. I said from the start that my point was that they were FORGED by the Big Bang. THAT is what I have said I am scaling off of. Not what their original forms were.
I never said they contain the energies of the Big Bang. But if the durability of Thor's Hammer can be scaled off the fact that it was forged in the heart of a dying star, should the same not apply to scaling the durability of the Infinity Stones based on the circumstances in which they were formed?
https://youtu.be/sw6oVPrIOVc?t=11s
"Then the universe exploded into existence and these energies were forged into concentrated ingots."
It directly says they were forged by the Big Bang.
Actually, that scene says "the universe exploded and the energies were forged into concentrated ingots"
So it was the Big Bang that forged them. And since we scaled Molnjir off of the dying star it was forged in, shouldn't we do the same for the stones?
"The stones would not be a sliver of a...
So, the calc we currently use for Ventus (And all those who scale from him, is this one here: http://web.archive.org/web/20160505063901/http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/he-took-the-red-one-kingdom-hearts.22102/
However, the argument the calc uses is that Ventus "Crouched while the...
So here's a question that I've been wondering: Many times during the Jiren vs Goku fight, both characters are punching and dodging so fast that aside from a split second impact, or vibrations, they seem to be standing completely stlll. I'm curious, If everyone besides Jiren and Goku had the...
So the page on aimdodging tells us what it is NOT (namely, NOT faster than a bullet). However, the human body has a fair amount of surface area and it only take a few seconds to squeeze a trigger. So how fast WOULD one have to be to move their body out of the way of a gun barrel before the...
Even with Goku vs Superman, I think that should be unbanned. Does it cause flame wars? Yes. But only if people act immaturely. We should trust the people doing these Vs Battles to behave themselves, if they can't, then THEY should be the ones banned. Not the thread. When someone gets drunk and...
I was wondering why that wasn't working.
And why not? Beerus, a Low 2C entity held back to the point that an enraged Vegeta (At that point only Solar System level as this was before he achieved his God form actually looked to be hurting him.
And Goku, a Universe Buster suppressed his ki...
It's likely that Roshi was holding back against Goku. Or heck, maybe Kid Goku is 5-C to. It seems outlandish but power in Dragon Ball increases exponentially. Goku was able to go from low end Planet Level to Star Level in under a week during the Namek Saga and that was BEFORE he got the SSJ...
Was just thinking of this the other day.
Now the reason that the feat is declared an Outlier is because King Piccolo's strongest attack only destroyed a city.
However, it's been shown multiple times in Dragonball that characters can use Ki control to focus their attacks into specific points to...
No, that makes sense.
But I do have a follow up though to something that doesn't make sense. At least right now.
"If you can move freely in a timeless void you have infinite speed"
Okay. So here's what I'm not getting.
You say that the reason you have infinite speed in a timeless void is...
So, how does being able to move freely in a timeless void make your speed infinite?
I'm not trying to argue or debate here, I genuinely want to know, because I'm curious. My knowledge of physics is limited and I'm deferring to your expertise.
So could you please explain how this works?
So apparently, the Demon Lords have infinite speed because they are native to a realm without time. But my question is... how does being native to a world outside time give them infinite speed?
I mean if they themselves were unaffected by time, I could see it. But it just says the world they...
So just yesterday, I was talking to someone about the Fate series. And he brought up the fact that Gilgamesh once split heaven from earth with a single attack. and since that's basically severing two dimensions from each other, then he and the other Heroic spirits should be considered "Reality...
That is inadmissable. You cannot use powerscaling from several seasons ago when the characters have grown exponentially since then. That would be like saying Android 18 stomps Goku Black because she stomped Vegeta in the Android Saga.
Not to mention Vegeta was stated to be stronger than SSJ3...
UI Goku in his first appearence, A character that Kefla is stated to be on par with, shook the world of void with his mere presence.
Shaking an infinite realm with your mere existence > Doing the same with a technique.
As for the Arena, Kale Berserk was shown doing the same thing. The only...
Untrue. She was stated to be stronger than UI Goku when he fought on par with Jiren.
And you can say "Jiren was holding back when he fought Goku!"
Whis confirmed him to be stronger than a God of Destruction when he fought against Kaioken x20 SSJB Goku. Meaning even in that weakened state he...
Plus, trying to judge from environmental destruction would be like saying that First Form Freeza is stronger than Whis because Whis hasn't destroyed a planet.
Jiren is confirmed to be stronger than a God of Destruction and U! Goku fought on par with him. Kefla was stated to have stronger than Goku was when he first fought Jiren. To say she is not on the level of a God not only ignores the basic rules of powersclaing, it blatantly ignores canon.
Actually, he DID defeat Vegeta. Yes Vegeta was stomping Goku Black AT FIRST. Then Black simply powered up, summoned his Ki scythe, tore open a hole in time and casually stomped Vegeta.
At the moment, the Tarrasque's AP is considered to be Town Level because it is "Comparable to the breath attack of a Dragon" which was calced at that level. However, this is simply not true. The breath attack in question was a 20d6 attack, while the Tarrasque's bite is only 4d8+17. Which while...
@Dragonmasterxyz
If we're not the be all and end all, then what's the point?
But let me see if I understand the rules of the site:
1) The strongest feat in the franchise will be considered valid. Regardless of the gap in power between it and the second or third strongest, unless:
A) the feat...
I'd be happy to drop it, but none of this makes any sense, you're contradicting yourself mutliple times over, and I'm worried this site is spreading misinformation.
It does if you the reasoning for declaring feat 1 an outlier could equally be applied to feat 2.
KOTR is a feat well beyond the Power Level established by other characters in the series and makes no sense in terms of narrative consistency. It is an outlier.
Supernova. is a feat well beyond...
Not if you have already ignored consistency. You cannot ignore consistency in one instance, then try to be consistent the next. Either you're consistent and ALWAYS consistent. Or you're not.
And I've actually been the one pushing for consistency. This site is meant to be objective, and yet the...
You cannot use that kind of logic when similar logic has already been ignored to even allow Supernova to be considered a valid feat in the first place.
My first thread about Supernova was that it made no sense since logically, why would Sephiroth go to such lengths to destroy the earth if he...