Son Goku vs Goku Black

[JohnCenaNation]

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Round 1

Rules:

1. This is Kakarot during his fight against Zamasu's will without any injuries; whereas this is Black during his fight against Vegita without any injuries.
2. Kakarot is in Zamasu's body; whereas Black is in Monaka's body.
3. 1-on-1 death battle.
4. No interference or holding back.

Round 2

Rules:

1. This is Kakarot during his fight against Zamasu's will without any injuries; whereas this is Black during his fight against Vegita without any injuries.
2. Kakarot transforms into Strengthened Super Saiyan 2; whereas Black is in base form.
3. 1-on-1 death battle.
4. No interference or holding back.

Round 3

Rules:

1. This is Kakarot during his fight against Zamasu's will without any injuries; whereas this is Black during his fight against Vegita without any injuries.
2. Kakarot transforms into Super Saiyan 3; whereas Black transforms into Saiyan beyond God.
3. 1-on-1 death battle.
4. No interference or holding back.

Round 4

Rules:

1. This is Kakarot during his fight against Zamasu's will without any injuries; whereas this is Black during his fight against Vegita without any injuries.
2. Kakarot transforms into Super Saiyan God; whereas Black transforms into Super Saiyan.
3. 1-on-1 death battle.
4. No interference or holding back.

Round 5

Rules:

1. This is Kakarot during his fight against Zamasu's will without any injuries; whereas this is Black during his fight against Vegita without any injuries.
2. Kakarot transforms into Super Saiyan Blue; whereas Black transforms into Super Saiyan Rosé.
3. 1-on-1 death battle.
4. No interference or holding back.

Round 6

Rules:

1. This is Kakarot during his fight against Zamasu's will without any injuries; whereas this is Black during his fight against Vegita without any injuries.
2. Kakarot transforms into Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan (completed); whereas Black transforms into Fused Zamasu.
3. 1-on-1 death battle.
4. No interference or holding back.

Location:


Zamasu's Hideout, so let the six rounds of Hell begin!

 

[Sceptilespy]

What. Didn't Vegeta stomp Black in the anime.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

What. Didn't Vegeta stomp Black in the anime.

What does that have to do with this?

 

[Sceptilespy]

What. Didn't Vegeta stomp Black in the anime.

What does that have to do with this?

Goku>Vegeta. If Vegeta stomps Black then there's no need to have this thread, as we already know the victor.

 

[ZERO7772]

Goku stomp Black in both anime and manga there is no need for this

In the manga, he was holding back his MSSB power which allows him to fight on par with Fused Zamasu by himself, In the anime as well he overpower Fusion Zamasu by himself then use KK to knock him down

Goku never used KK against Black for some reason but we know he have it

 

[Tyranno223]

You could make an argument that Goku Black might manage to adap, after all he has one of the most adaptive power ups in db, he just needs to get hurt.

 

[Mand21]

You could use, like, immortal Zamasu without the universe-becoming thingie, versus Goku on Superior Instinct. Is it possible to kill the immortal when your power transcends certain concepts and absolutes and when you can destroy spacetime?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Okay, can I ask everyone, for each rounds, tell me who is going to win and why?

 

[Sceptilespy]

Goku already stomped Black in anime. Not sure what you're aiming for here.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Goku already stomped Black in anime. Not sure what you're aiming for here.

Point of fact, Goku never won in a fight against Black. He only did once, and that was because Black was being held back due to Time Portal.

 

[ZERO7772]

^He also never defeated Vegeta in a fight but we know he can kick the shit out of him

 

[Lunacorva]

Actually, he DID defeat Vegeta. Yes Vegeta was stomping Goku Black AT FIRST. Then Black simply powered up, summoned his Ki scythe, tore open a hole in time and casually stomped Vegeta.

 

[Vietthai96]

Actually, he DID defeat Vegeta. Yes Vegeta was stomping Goku Black AT FIRST. Then Black simply powered up, summoned his Ki scythe, tore open a hole in time and casually stomped Vegeta.

Vegeta get stomp because he confuse with Goku Black new ability

 

[ZERO7772]

Actually, he DID defeat Vegeta. Yes Vegeta was stomping Goku Black AT FIRST. Then Black simply powered up, summoned his Ki scythe, tore open a hole in time and casually stomped Vegeta.

I was talking about true Goku not Black, Goku and Vegeta fought for real twice, in sayian sage and Buu saga

In sayian sage Goku trashed him around with Kaio-ken until Vegeta pulled the ape form, in Buu saga Goku was holding back and Vegeta knock him out with sneak attack

 

[Lunacorva]

Actually, he DID defeat Vegeta. Yes Vegeta was stomping Goku Black AT FIRST. Then Black simply powered up, summoned his Ki scythe, tore open a hole in time and casually stomped Vegeta.

I was talking about true Goku not Black, Goku and Vegeta fought for real twice, in sayian sage and Buu saga

In sayian sage Goku trashed him around with Kaio-ken until Vegeta pulled the ape form, in Buu saga Goku was holding back and Vegeta knock him out with sneak attack

That is inadmissable. You cannot use powerscaling from several seasons ago when the characters have grown exponentially since then. That would be like saying Android 18 stomps Goku Black because she stomped Vegeta in the Android Saga.

Not to mention Vegeta was stated to be stronger than SSJ3 Goku when he fought Beerus. And while Goku held back on using SSJ3 against Vegeta in the Buu saga, their SSJ2 forms were shown to be equal.

 

[Lunacorva]

Actually, he DID defeat Vegeta. Yes Vegeta was stomping Goku Black AT FIRST. Then Black simply powered up, summoned his Ki scythe, tore open a hole in time and casually stomped Vegeta.

Vegeta get stomp because he confuse with Goku Black new ability

Doesn't matter, No matter the reason, he still lost.

 

[ZERO7772]

@inadmissable I was only taking example here

Some people said Goku never actually defeated Black but the same can be said about Vegeta, yet we all know he's stronger

 

[Lunacorva]

@inadmissable I was only taking example here
Some people said Goku never actually defeated Black but the same can be said about Vegeta, yet we all know he's stronger

Actually, no. We don't. "We all know he's stronger" is an unfounded statement.

 

[Vietthai96]

Actually, he DID defeat Vegeta. Yes Vegeta was stomping Goku Black AT FIRST. Then Black simply powered up, summoned his Ki scythe, tore open a hole in time and casually stomped Vegeta.

Vegeta get stomp because he confuse with Goku Black new ability

Doesn't matter, No matter the reason, he still lost.

Again, people always look at the result while ignore the process. It just like you told that Sorbet is stronger than Goku and Frieza because he shot a laser beam that piece through Goku's heart, while Frieza can't do much thing to Goku

 

[ZERO7772]

Actually, no. We don't. "We all know he's stronger" is an unfounded statement.

I don't get the point you are trying to make here really

 

[Sceptilespy]

This thread is honestly bad. Should be closed

 

[JohnCenaNation]

This thread is honestly bad. Should be closed

Let it be, people who are siding with Black actually coming up with good reasons.