@Huesito88 I do wonder what them "Toriyama doesnt know sh*t about martial arts" weirdos want ... thanks for the laugh, haha.
When Goku throws a jab, do they want a comment from narrator "he uses a jab to size up the distance" or Goku explaing us the importance of head position and frames in the clinch? Or maybe they want a deep explanation from Toriyama on why strenght is important power wise while fighting off the back foot?
If you guys think 5D gravity is funny, "Goku martial arts" takes are some next level shit.
Most of them wannabe "martial arts nerds" dont see how KI-control counters 99% of grappling and the importance of leverage gets countered by silly things like flying. There was a comment on youtube how Goku would lose to a "high school wrestler" since he isnt a master grappler. The funny thing about this is, you dont have to be one; knowing the basics of takedown defence coupled with good footwork and knowing how to make the right use of different angles sets the deal. We have seen guys getting the gold belt or nullifying the attempt of GREAT grapplers ... any fictional character beats real world guy 10/10 under every rule set. They are so much more talented.
I dont want to write a rant so lets keep it short: There are many reasons why I like Toriyamas representation of martial arts.
Some of them are:
# It already starts with Roshi making it clear that theres a limit to martial arts, the importance of proper strenght training or how deadly martial arts can be under the wrong leadership. Roshis age and widsom really showed there when he meet Goku/Krillin.
# Sepertation of lifting/striking power or travel/combat speed. Combat athletes aint good lifters at all and the worst sprinters. In close quarters fight or better said short burts like explosive foot speed or throwing 3 hooks in the span of 1 leg kick, in this siutation they begin to shine.
# The importance of basics and teaching Goku the basics ad nauseam till he retires. Practice the techniques, but leave the style and approach to him. Thats something a great coach would and should do.
This isnt a debunk at all, just some thoughts why I like Toriyasmas view of fighters and im not sure if it was really authors intent, but theres so much truth if you pay attention.
I mean we already see - IN THE REAL WORLD - how much things like small joint manipulation can change an entire situation. Theres a reason why many things are banned across every single combat sport. I appreciate the delicious science of Thais sweeps and throws but if you clinch me, im gonna eye poke you. Thats one of the many counters but gets you banned and doing that with gloves is hard as sh*t.
My point was DB doesnt have bad cheography. They displayed great offense skills but its so fast that most wont notice. Been saying it for years to watch it in slow motion or watch guys who do break downs if you cant see it. The most underrated part is the display of a masterful defense.
Dragonballs visuals are friggin gooooooood. Them explosive movements is what makes them look like fodder.
Are they perfect? No. If you want things displayed perfectly, theres only grappling and you can count the high level ones on 3 fingers.
