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Uhh, hello :), Idk I've been scaling Naruto for a while now and I thought it'd be kinda cool to push my agenda show new potential feats you may have missed.

So basically by the end of chapter 22, at least 5 of Zabuza's water clones have surrounded team 7, however after Kakashi gives the permission to handle the water clones, Sasuke perception blitzes and one shotted them, we even have arrogant people like Zabuza admitting the water clones were no match and that Sasuke was a worthy rival to Haku. Now, what really makes this feat impressive is the fact that in the first databook, specifically in the water clone section it's explained that

"With water, a firm real body can be created, so the user's abilities such as Taijutsu can remain the same"
And
"Even though it is called a clone, the strength of its Taijutsu is at the original's level"
Why does that matter? Because that'd put the water clones equals in physical stats seeing how it's explained in the first fanbook that incredible speed and strength define taijutsu and in the first databook that Taijutsu is an attack technique that uses strength and physical resistance to deal damage directly to the opponent's body.

What about the statement that water clones only have a tenth of the strength of the originals? Well so far, seeing from the contradictory evidence, it wouldn't be talking about physical strength necessarily.

So, Land of waves Sasuke was able to perception blitz and one shot 5 water clones that were equal in stats to the user (Zabuza), thus seeing where you scale Zabuza's durability (City level+), it should be added to land of waves Sasuke's striking strength and attack potency. For speed, at least massively hypersonic will do.

It'd look something like: Attack Potency: City level+ (One shot 5 of Zabuza's water clones) and Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Able to Blitz 5 of Zabuza's water clones)'

However, there are also more feats for Sasuke to support this level for him, such as him consistently being equal/above Haku.

Firstly, I wanted to establish that Haku was indeed actively trying to kill Sasuke and he had little to no reason to hold back pre ice mirrors. Firstly, in the first databook pages about Haku's character, it's stated that:

And

Not only do the databooks support this, but Haku as well by thinking

And

For other evidence, Zabuza admitted that Sasuke may be equal to Haku, when he's only seen Sharinganless Sasuke. Haku also considers Sasuke to be a marginal threat as he says:
Meaning Haku couldn't even attack without a risk. Zabuza also acknowledged the risk as even base Sasuke was able to kill Haku if he didn't use mirrors. As for Sasuke's actual feats against mirrorless Haku, Sasuke was able to blitz Haku, even making Zabuza acknowledge Sasuke being faster, which Sasuke agrees on too. Another interesting thing to note about that page is that Kakashi states Zabuza was underestimating their team when just a few pages earlier Zabuza acknowledged Sasuke was able to keep up with Haku's speed. Haku also acknowledged Sasuke as fast, Sasuke agreeing Haku ain't that fast compared to him. Sasuke was dominating the entire fight pretty much. In terms of strength, Sasuke and Haku clashed a couple of times.

So from this overwhelming amount of evidence: Attack Potency: City level+ (Able to one shot 5 of Zabuza's water clones, clashes equally with Haku) and Speed: Massively Hypersonic+ (Faster than Haku, blitzed 5 of Zabuza's water clones)

Also striking strength and shiiiiiii, also Sasuke's kick was able to draw blood from Haku as a fun plus.
 
What about the statement that water clones only have a tenth of the strength of the originals? Well so far, seeing from the contradictory evidence, it wouldn't be talking about physical strength necessarily.
If the "contradictory evidence" comes from databooks (secondary canon) while the manga (primary canon) says something completely different, according to the wiki's standards, the manga should take precedence.

The primary canon is the source material first released (with few possible exceptions), with the other author works being secondary canon.

When different source materials give different versions of the same feat, and by that they contradict each other in the depiction of the feat, the primary canon takes precedence over the secondary canon.

If the feat is correctly depicted over multiple canons any of these can be used to judge the feat. Should different results be reached by judging the feat through multiple canons, the result of the primary canon will have priority.

So for most manga series, that means the original manga is canonical, while the anime is not (since the anime is simply an adaptation of the manga made by others). Databooks are considered secondary canon since scans tend to contradict them. It should be noted that this is often evaluated on a case-by-case basis
 
However, instead of scaling Land of Waves Sasuke to Zabuza's 53.15 Megatons, you could scale him to 1/10 of that value due to the water clones being 1/10 as strong as the original.

Sasuke and those who scale would instead be 5.315 Megatons (Low 7-B+). Still an upgrade.
 
However, instead of scaling Land of Waves Sasuke to Zabuza's 53.15 Megatons, you could scale him to 1/10 of that value due to the water clones being 1/10 as strong as the original.

Sasuke and those who scale would instead be 5.315 Megatons (Low 7-B+). Still an upgrade.
That could actually work. It would also make scaling consistent since Pre Shippuden being as close as their older counterpart would be inaccurate
 
Since Haku explicitly states in the manga that Zabuza's clones are far weaker than himself normally... I would not be scaling Sasuke directly to Zabuza for this feat.

This would also be far higher than almost every single calc from Pre-Shippuden Naruto.

Zabuza and Haku are also able to fight against far stronger characters than Land of Waves Arc Sasuke.... It doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
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there's nothing wrong with the calcs being used as support for inverse statements and explicit scaling. The biggest issue is the fact that we still haven't addressed KT's UES CRT which obviously greatly affects the scaling throughout Part 1 and 2, so before we can even get to the OP, the way we currently scale Naruto is incorrect.

Normally I'd advise putting this on hold until that eventually gets dealt with but I'm unable to ascertain when it'll eventually come. However, since the changes the OP is asking for affects everyone (Lee, Sound 4 etc) in Part 1 and beyond, this is actually a bigger CRT than what the OP thinks they're proposing, so I'd prefer we put this on hold until the scaling is finally fixed
 
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