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I'm contemplating nuking it.
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The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"
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I think what you want to do with trandualty is to give these features 1a or higher tiers in the 2020 system, am I wrong?
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Speak English.
No, I'm moreso beginning to think Transduality is defined awfully and the only decent way to redefine it would leave it as a meaningless and redundant power to anything other than Tier 0s.
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I, personally, see why Transdual sounds flawed, but I think we should keep it.
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No matter how much the system changes elder scrolls still always at the top
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Agreed.
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Damn straight
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So, how about the Leviathan from The Unwritten?
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High 1-A.
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How can a verse have multiple High 1A+ characters?
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Ultima discusses this. There can be multiple High 1-A+.
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Either you have multiple characters who both somehow represent the one space of all possible things, or you have multiple beings who can select arbitrarily large worlds from these possibilities and create them. Both work.
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I dont follow these whatever new tier 1 and 0 stuff is going now but if according to new changes if R>F is now 1-A how will qualitative superiority and hde work?
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there just can be duhQ: "How can there be multiple --"
A: "There can be."
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HDE works the same as it did then. We're just not calling it "qualitative superiority" anymore. That term is 1-A-exclusive.
Q: "How can there be multiple --"
A: "There can be."
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I believe my point stands firm.Q: "How can there be multiple --"
A: "There can be."
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Will it give the characters +1d tier?
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You have no point. Their question was about "How", not "Can". You relied on Ultima to give his answer again.
Edit: This might be coming off as meaner than I intend it, I'm not trying to antagonize anyone or make them feel bad, I just think the question could've been responded a bit better.
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Hey Ultima, did you answer this?
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intellectual discourse is mid
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It was mainly a joke. So no offense taken. I answered it so quickly, that I forgot to link the response from the thread to which Ultima explained it. Though, given he himself answered it, my response was treated more of a retort than anything else.
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I'm very smart FYI. I wanted to clear that up and I just so happened to read it wrong. So I am very much intellectually capable of answering the question “the right way”. wink wink hint hint
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I don't trust a person who says they're very smart being very smart.
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Hey! It happens to the best of us. Some more than others cough cough Aagna
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I am very dumb
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I am very dumb
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Hey can you answer my question I asked months ago?HDE works the same as it did then. We're just not calling it "qualitative superiority" anymore. That term is 1-A-exclusive.
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Does it need to be stated that platonic concepts are clearly platonic and platonic concepts 1-A
Can you also explain the contradictions of platonic concepts in detail?
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Well, it remains the same? What about the mother leviathan?
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Ultima said that the Cetacean hierarchy is a good representation of High 1-A and remains that way. I don't know how much more the Mother Levitahn scale but based on what I've read, it could reach High 1-A+
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I've seen some stuff that could suggest so and would the cosmology reach tier 0 (nothing to scale since it wouldnt even be a force or character)
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Probably the apex of that hierarchy would be 1-A+ due to the sheer amount of anti-feat for the Levithans. So the hierarchy probably won't reach High 1-A, the smallest hint of High 1-A would maybe be the Mother, but I doubt it.
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Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I changed my original opinion. I don't see them reaching High 1-A. Most definitely at most 1-A+.
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Well damn.
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