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Question. Wouldn’t removing the hypothetical multiplier scaling from Kaioken and Oozaru also axe hypothetical stats from downscaling/upscaling SSJ? I see no reason to assume different between the three when they’re all treated identically.No one can edit a blog, only the person who made it. The blog is already editted tho
The only thing being axed is using multipliers for power levels linearly, that's how we got KKx10 Namek Goku over First Form Frieza, that's how we downscaled the characters from Frieza's featQuestion. Wouldn’t removing the hypothetical multiplier scaling from Kaioken and Oozaru also axe hypothetical stats from downscaling/upscaling SSJ? I see no reason to assume different between the three when they’re all treated identically.
KKx10 Namek Goku (Pre-Zenkai) would be over First Form Frieza, though. Like, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that conceptually, as far as I know. At least based on actual in series logic. The issue stems from our own tier listings and classification, (like how SSG has a multiplier, even if unknown, to make someone at BoG’s Goku Solar System-MSS self a Uni+ threat. Which makes no sense numerically/based on our own system, because that distance is literally multiple infinities.)The only thing being axed is using multipliers for power levels linearly, that's how we got KKx10 Namek Goku over First Form Frieza, that's how we downscaled the characters from Frieza's feat
The SSJ scaling does not use power levels to upscale or downscale, only the multiplier itself, and so will Kaio-ken and Oozaru from now on
There's nothing wrong with that conceptually, but you can't actually prove that without making the multipliers with power levels linear. Otherwise First Form Frieza is above him due to his feat of blowing up planet vegeta being far above anything in the saiyan saga even with the multipliersKKx10 Namek Goku (Pre-Zenkai) would be over First Form Frieza, though. Like, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that conceptually
I do remember vector manipulation being agreed to stay but I'm not sure why it was removed. I'm also not sure why no one addressed this either, I planned on making this known but I was new at the time and didn't know how I should address it. Recently planned on reporting this issue but I don't know his intentions so I can't be certain he did it on purpose. I believe theglassman12 handled that CRT too.On the DBH special ki page, it says that dark factor users resist vector manipulation from time power users but vector manipulation isn’t on the time power page and if iirc was removed a while ago. Did someone forget to remove it?
There’s likely not any malicious intent here, just an oversight or misunderstanding. Glass isn’t the type of person to do that anyways.I do remember vector manipulation being agreed to stay but I'm not sure why it was removed. I'm also not sure why no one addressed this either, I planned on making this known but I was new at the time and didn't know how I should address it. Recently planned on reporting this issue but I don't know his intentions so I can't be certain he did it on purpose. I believe theglassman12 handled that CRT too.
So long gay BowserI lowkey think I'm gonna check out of the site until Daima comes back because shit as been boring af
I will follow you, come back as soon as there is an update for cosmology, let there be mentions of the Universe being infiniteI lowkey think I'm gonna check out of the site until Daima comes back because shit as been boring af
“The Demon Realm is a universe in size!”I will follow you, come back as soon as there is an update for cosmology, let there be mentions of the Universe being infinite
It's the Dragon Ball fan version of "YOU GOT THE TOUCH"“The Demon Realm is a universe in size!”
“Oh, okay.” Goku pauses. “How big is that?”
“INFINITE IN SIZE AND FULL OF AN INFINITE NUMBER OF INFINITELY SPATIALLY TRANSCENDENT DIMENSIONS.”
And every Dragon Ball powerscaler then ascended into Godhood and sang We Gotta Power
The salt in this is crazy“The Demon Realm is a universe in size!”
“Oh, okay.” Goku pauses. “How big is that?”
“INFINITE IN SIZE AND FULL OF AN INFINITE NUMBER OF INFINITELY SPATIALLY TRANSCENDENT DIMENSIONS.”
And every Dragon Ball powerscaler then ascended into Godhood and sang We Gotta Power as they got the super duper ultra brainrot scaling they’d been waiting for since they heard Superman beats Goku (he still beats Goku).
I don't get this tbhThere's nothing wrong with that conceptually, but you can't actually prove that without making the multipliers with power levels linear. Otherwise First Form Frieza is above him due to his feat of blowing up planet vegeta being far above anything in the saiyan saga even with the multipliers
Okay, but what does that make Blizzard? I need to know for Dragon Ball Legends purposes.It's the Dragon Ball fan version of "YOU GOT THE TOUCH"
Nah, I just think it’s funny how sometimes people approach powerscaling as a “how high can I make the characters look/be,” kind of angle. Currently, I don’t feel like there should be any real changes to Dragon Ball’s listings (except changing Damage’s interpretation of the Manga, since I feel like the overwhelming amount of evidence of the power absorption happening in the other continuities, as well as it being Toriyama’s intent as discussed in interview, should act as more than enough evidence to say the event happened since the manga compresses the entire film into a 4 chapter abridged retelling. That said, I also don’t think there’s substantial in-manga evidence for it, so I don’t think he’s wrong in any conceivable way, I just disagree on the conclusion based on the different ways we approach the series.)The salt in this is crazy
He time travel to the future.How does hits time skip work?
Lmao im trolling, i just want chaosHe time travel to the future.
Like Dio stand
Ironically, intentionally or not, their answer fits the troll.Lmao im trolling, i just want chaos
That's as the intention actually, I did have another joke to make a combo If he asked "what?" But he din't.Ironically, intentionally or not, their answer fits the troll.
“He Time Travel to the Future,” (Diavolo), “JUST LIKE DIO.” (Time STOPPER.) It’s either a great subtle joke (because it both highlights the multi-ability of Time Skip, is contradictory, like Time Skip, etc.) or accidental genius.
This implies the original King Crimson rant isn’t accurate.Wow so Hit is like that King Crimson rant meme except it's actually accurate.
King Crimson is explained perfectly fine. The issue is that, (like Hit), what we see is directly contradicted to the ability’s description.No, the thing is King Crimson is easy to understand if it wasn't for bad trasnlation, Hit seems to be legitimately confusing.
Unless you were memeing and not being serious, in that case sorry for not getting it.
You should reword his AP description to say "defeated Gohan and Krillin easily" because the way it's worded gives the wrong impression.Hey, I tried to create a rework on Salza's page (which as you can see on Stamina, is outdated)
I would just like to have your opinion on whether there are any errors or other disturbing things.
Current profile: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Salza
Rework: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:FrolzeurX/Sandbox1
I replaced with "Superior to Gohan and Krillin"You should reword his AP description to say "defeated Gohan and Krillin easily" because the way it's worded gives the wrong impression.
If Frieza said something like, "I power grows more distant the more I transform", would that be grounds for Third Form being x2+ his Second Form?
Why, though?(if you take the V-Jump statement of 1 Kili = 50K PL/BP, with an Kili Level of 3K = 150M PL/BP)
Except, the Supreme Kai could all defeat Frieza in a single blow, and Yakon presented a legitimate threat to Shin.I think you could reasonably deduce that Namek Saga Goku’s strength is where Yakon’s absorption soft caps.
I did say if.Why, though?
What supplements V-Jump here?
No, they only referred to the Earthlings in the confidence scan. This is more apparent, because Shin was to be spared by Yakon.Except, the Supreme Kai could all defeat Frieza in a single blow, and Yakon presented a legitimate threat to Shin.
I said soft cap because of that very reason. If you take V-Jump as accurate, he absorbed about Namek Saga SSJ Goku’s consistently, but when Goku went SSJ2 (doubled) his power, Yakon exploded. Thus, it is a soft cap. You can reasonably estimate that somewhere near this level is what he can absorb, since we know for a fact it’s not infinite.Also, Goku powered up as a Super Saiyan, and Yakon could steal absorb his energy. He only died after Goku entered Super Saiyan 2.
His scaling isn't just from Babidi's confidence, it's also from Shin himself fearing Yakon and urging all four of them to fight together to stand a chance.This is more apparent, because Shin was to be spared by Yakon.
We do know it's lower than 1.2 Million PL because that's 1% of his True Power AKA his Final Form at base.You know, this is only tangentially related, but I always found it interesting we never got a PL for his 3rd Form.
Wouldn’t it necessarily be higher? His Second Form (as in the order we see it/named in games, not taking into account his forms work in reverse as limiters), had a power level of over 1 Million. How much over is uncertain, but over it.We do know it's lower than 1.2 Million PL because that's 1% of his True Power AKA his Final Form at base.