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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

Uraume thought lowly of Choso and was surprised by the speed, hence why they had a delayed reaction and complimented it.
This interpretation might work in a different context but Uraume was ready to react and couldn't till it was cms away. If Uraume really is superior to the speed they'd have been able to adjust/reinforce/amp/whatever within miliseconds before it got within a meter near them.
 
This interpretation might work in a different context but Uraume was ready to react and couldn't till it was cms away. If Uraume really is superior to the speed they'd have been able to adjust/reinforce/amp/whatever within miliseconds before it got within a meter near them.
CE reinforcement also amps your reaction speed, so not necessarily, plus Uraume reacting whilst it was close to them bumps up the feat if anything - shorter time frame for them to move in.
 
CE reinforcement also amps your reaction speed, so not necessarily, plus Uraume reacting whilst it was close to them bumps up the feat if anything - shorter time frame for them to move in.
That's my point, if Uraume really is superior to it then their reinforcement would've been done far faster than the time it took for pb to get so close. And no reacting when something is closer doesn't mean a better feat. Reacting far before pb could have gotten near is the better feat, you can read this for a better understanding.
 
That's my point, if Uraume really is superior to it then their reinforcement would've been done far faster than the time it took for pb to get so close. And no reacting when something is closer doesn't mean a better feat. Reacting far before pb could have gotten near is the better feat, you can read this for a better understanding.
if their reaction time isn't as fast then them having a delayed reaction to PB and only amping themselves last minute is coherent.
 
if their reaction time isn't as fast then them having a delayed reaction to PB and only amping themselves last minute is coherent.
Do you accept that Yuji (Shibuya Incident arc) is canonically slower than piercing blood also meaning slower than 343 m/s too for both on-site and off-site purposes or do you think he can amp himself to supersonic speeds in bursts?

if their reaction time isn't as fast then them having a delayed reaction to PB and only amping themselves last minute is coherent.
No because it doesn't make sense that they would be capable of amping themselves to move nearly that fast. I do accept that characters blitzing others shouldn't be like nearly as impressive though.

I don't think that everyone is like average human, I think it's more like 100-200 m/s for your grade 1s, then probably like 200-300 for the top tiers, supersonic for god tiers.
The minimum I see for someone like Todo is 100 m/s.
 
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if their reaction time isn't as fast then them having a delayed reaction to PB and only amping themselves last minute is coherent.
This doesn't address what I'm saying though. If Uraume is really superior to PB then their activation of reinforcing their eyes would be faster than PB, unless you think Uraume has slow reinforcement of their eyes.

I'll explain it for you clearer: Uraume's suppressed reinforcement isn't able to perceive or react to PB, but they're able to further reinforce themselves once its cms away. If that's the case, that means Uraume's time to further reinforce is slower than PB still and even then the feat of them reacting is only transonic.

It's either Uraume can't react with their strong reinforcement level or, by your interpretation, Uraume's further reinforcing activation is slower than PB. Either way Uraume is still slower than PB.
 
Its heavily implied he and ogi did fight him in the past.
I don't know of any confirmation of Toji fighting Naobito or Ogi. However, they both have some level of fear and/or respect of his power/capabilities. The most of the Zenin clan were deathly terrified of him and there was a statement saying Toji could have easily become the head of the Zenins on his strength alone if they'd give a curse-less being a shot. He must have done something to gain that reputation, unless there's some technique or cursed tool/object to measure how strong Toji was but I doubt it.
 
This is gonna be crazy when gets animated
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Just asking because I'm making a CRT to buff him to Genius. I'm thinking about making it overall intelligence + combat because of his soul splitting feat when he copied Kenjaku to allow RCT to heal his CT and his Jujutsu Knowledge
 
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Just asking because I'm making a CRT to buff him to Genius. I'm thinking about making it overall intelligence + combat because of his soul splitting feat when he copied Kenjaku to allow RCT to heal his CT and his Jujutsu Knowledge
I mean dude has achived a feat of jujutsu that is considered outright divine when compared to other massively talented and smart characters (with domains actually needing the ability to visualize them and "calculate" how they would actually function, you can't just use a barrier and slap your CT in there), managed to learn a highly complicated technique after seeing it preformed just once (soul split and possibly brain heal), he is knowledgable of jujutsu to such an extent that he knowns the exact location within the brain where the CT is stored and he also managed to learn an extention to his own CT that he flat out called near-impossible to use after seeing it just once.

There is more but this is what comes to mind on the spot he is a combat genius at the bare minimum (honestly pushing extraordinary genius in combat but that far more debatable) and gifted in other aspects like: anatomy (his true form is likely shaped by his own actions since we see he can adjust his body somehow), social manipulation and deal making.
 
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I mean dude has achived a feat of jujutsu that is considered outright divine when compared to other massively talented and smart characters (with domains actually needing the ability to visualize them and "calculate" how they would actually function, you can't just use a barrier and slap your CT in there), managed to learn a highly complicated technique after seeing it preformed just once (soul split and possibly brain heal), he is knowledgable of jujutsu to such an extent that he knowns the exact location within the brain where the CT is stored and he also managed to learn an extention to his own CT that he flat out called near-impossible to use after seeing it just once.
I got those feats in my sandbox rn
There is more but this is what comes to mind on the spot he is a combat genius at the bare minimum (honestly pushing extraordinary genius in combat but that far more debatable) and gifted in other aspects like: anatomy (his true form is likely shaped by his own actions since we see he can adjust his body somehow), social manipulation and deal making.
Wouldn't his body shifting be considered a genius feat because it is the perfect body for Jujutsu? It has everything a sorceror would ever dream of, 4 arms for more handsigns, 2 mouths for faster and more chants, and two sets of eyes for vision.
 
Wouldn't his body shifting be considered a genius feat because it is the perfect body for Jujutsu? It has everything a sorceror would ever dream of, 4 arms for more handsigns, 2 mouths for faster and more chants, and two sets of eyes for vision.
its more so genius because it is specifically stated that despite the body being heavily disfigured (I mean 4 arms, a mouth on the stomach and 4 eyes is pretty wild) the body doesn't have any real issues in it, its perfectly healthy and doesn't have any drawbacks which is an insane feat of anatomy.
 
This doesn't address what I'm saying though. If Uraume is really superior to PB then their activation of reinforcing their eyes would be faster than PB, unless you think Uraume has slow reinforcement of their eyes.
so Uraume is suppressing themselves to below the speed of PB, Choso shoots PB, and before Uraume can acknowledge the speed in order to increase the reinforcement due to their suppressed reaction time PB reaches close to them. It's that simple. Has nothing to do with the speed of their reinforcement, it's the speed at which they perceived the attack from a suppressed state.
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Yuji says it's so fast he only has a 50/50 chance of dodging it from a solid distance away, and the attack skimmed him when he did dodge from said distance, so yea he's slower. Although I will say his dodge suggests the speed at which he can move his body in short bursts, such as instinctive blocks, are relative it's just the time it takes for him to perceive an attack and then signal a reaction which makes him so slow - similar to how reaction time works irl.
Uraume is still a god tier
What's you definition of "god tier"? Being blitzed and one-shot?
 
so Uraume is suppressing themselves to below the speed of PB, Choso shoots PB, and before Uraume can acknowledge the speed in order to increase the reinforcement due to their suppressed reaction time PB reaches close to them. It's that simple. Has nothing to do with the speed of their reinforcement, it's the speed at which they perceived the attack from a suppressed state.
Alright, I've explained it to you several times, if you wanna believe Uraume is suppressing their perception speed, reaction speed, ap, durability all based off them saying they hold back their "power" then whatever.
 
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