EldemadeDityjon
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Really?Reviving a few months old thread is necroing. If that thread was really that important then we should’ve finished it back then and not 4 months later.
Oh shit I didn't know.
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Really?Reviving a few months old thread is necroing. If that thread was really that important then we should’ve finished it back then and not 4 months later.
You are right let me fix thatWhy this thread is so quiet today
oh I dono maybe because you can't go from 0 to 100 in speed instantly?I'm confused, how fast do ya think the domain expansion and the activation are? And ignoring the activation, the domain lasts for 0.2 seconds, and Yuji wasn't able to cover several meters in that timeframe. Yuji can already run 50m in three seconds, yet now he can't cover several now in 0.2s? How consistent is this with your speed scaling for Shibuya?
which Heian Sukuna? True form or past?You are right let me fix that
@TheGunsFinalWrath @Guacamolefletcher Shinjuku Gojo high diffs Heian Sukuna thougths?
thats it come hereYou are right let me fix that
@TheGunsFinalWrath @Guacamolefletcher Shinjuku Gojo high diffs Heian Sukuna thougths?
Heian Sukuna > 10s 20f Meguna > GojoYou are right let me fix that
@TheGunsFinalWrath @Guacamolefletcher Shinjuku Gojo high diffs Heian Sukuna thougths?
TRUEShinjuku Gojo high diffs Heian Sukuna thougths?
He gets hit by a true power barrier less domain quicker than he can activate UV, and then Sukuna beats himTRUE
you do know heian era sukuna is stronger than 10S sukuna right? like its sukuna with his full soul and 20F worth of CE, with 4 hands, a second mouth to constantly amp his jujutsu as well as all the bells and whistles of open domain, fire arrow and domain amplification.You're telling me a WEAKER Sukuna without 10S is beating Gojo? Nah.
Heian era Sukuna is not weaker than 10s Sukuna. You’re smoking crackYou're telling me a WEAKER Sukuna without 10S is beating Gojo? Nah.
No. One possesses the ten shadows technique. The other possesses the greatest advantage any sorcerer can have. Also Heian era Sukuna has bigger muscles, and bigger muscles with the same amount of CE reinforcement yield different, greater resultsThey're equal
"The greatest advantage a sorcerer can have" because he can amp his innate technique without strain. It is stated that his body is utterly immaculate and then promptly explained whyNo. One possesses the ten shadows technique. The other possesses the greatest advantage any sorcerer can have. Also Heian era Sukuna has bigger muscles, and bigger muscles with the same amount of CE reinforcement yield different, greater results
He already compensated for the last finger with a corpseyou do know heian era sukuna is stronger than 10S sukuna right? like its sukuna with his full soul and 20F worth of CE,
Which will be USELESS if he wants to interact with Gojo and his infinity? Hello? Notwithstanding the fact that Gojo TANKED his domain. Tf some amped cleave and dismantle gonna do when he took on the most potent version of them? Millions of them raining down. As for the 4 arms advantage.... Yeah he's still getting humbled in skill. And Gojo fought a 3vs1 already, with one trying to sneak around shots at him occasionally. That advantage is insignificant against Gojo.with 4 hands, a second mouth to constantly amp his jujutsu
Cool. Nothing new.as well as all the bells and whistles of open domain
And you think he can use any of these with DA on huh. Too bad.fire arrow and domain amplification.
No dude, that wasn't a risky option. It was the SAFEST option upon realizing he ain't winning without the 10S Strat. Well he already knew the risks beforehand given his reasoning for wanting the 10S, even narratively speaking.Heian era sukuna would also not go for the more risky options
and die in the second domain battle. very cool. At best he lasts till the third one.he'll just domain till victory.
It's stated and shown to us through the finger bearers that the fingers were growing in strength every day for 1,000 years, so I don't see why we'd assume heian era Sukuna is of the same level as a current 20F Sukuna.you do know heian era sukuna is stronger than 10S sukuna right? like its sukuna with his full soul and 20F worth of CE, with 4 hands, a second mouth to constantly amp his jujutsu as well as all the bells and whistles of open domain, fire arrow and domain amplification.
Sukuna HAD to play it risky to maintain Mahoraga's adaptation, and if Sukuna didn't have Mahoraga adapt then he'd have no way to save himself from UV (since attacking the domain from the inside wouldn't help against Gojo's small domains). Also, it's stated Sukuna couldn't even protect himself from Gojo's sure hit during the clashes the entire time and was shielding himself with Megumi's soul, so remove that and even if Sukuna could win every domain clash the information would still rapidly deteriorate his brain in their initial clash.Heian era sukuna would also not go for the more risky options in order to adapt to gojo as he won't be adapting he'll just domain till victory.
Nah it's not like that. What he did was to remove his sure hit "shielding effect" from covering Megumi's soul, whereas he himself was shielded. He made Megumi take the burden of the attacks.Also, it's stated Sukuna couldn't even protect himself from Gojo's sure hit during the clashes the entire time and was shielding himself with Megumi's soul,
Well... yeah. He has the Ten Shadows cuz he's using Megumi's body lmaonow imagine if he didn't have Megumi. I guarantee you that he has no way of having Mahoraga adapt to UV at all
Ik, but you get what I mean. Him having no ability to place the wheel on another soul inside of him to take the burden.Well... yeah. He has the Ten Shadows cuz he's using Megumi's body lmao
"Satoru's sure-hit effect targeted everything within the domain. Sukuna's sure-hit effect, however, targeted everything within the domain except himself, which meant that the sure-hit targeting Sukuna was still in place. He continued to take on Unlimited Void five times, all while shouldering the burden of Mahoraga's adaptation, but the one who actually bore this burden was... Megumi's soul!" - Lightnings translationNah it's not like that. What he did was to remove his sure hit "shielding effect" from covering Megumi's soul, whereas he himself was shielded. He made Megumi take the burden of the attacks.
now imagine if he didn't have Megumi. I guarantee you that he has no way of having Mahoraga adapt to UV at all
Ye, yet you said both at fault. Last time I checked the first one to comment is the one who is necroing, not the person who replies afterwards
Yeah that translation is a bit weird. Because Sukuna has no way of shifting it to Megumi. You can't control sure hit effects like that. It is completely impossible."Satoru's sure-hit effect targeted everything within the domain. Sukuna's sure-hit effect, however, targeted everything within the domain except himself, which meant that the sure-hit targeting Sukuna was still in place. He continued to take on Unlimited Void five times, all while shouldering the burden of Mahoraga's adaptation, but the one who actually bore this burden was... Megumi's soul!" - Lightnings translation
This suggests Sukuna's sure-hit has no way to guard himself (which makes sense due to the nature of it) and he was simply using Megumi as a shield to account for that, which makes sense as Sukuna says that Gojo's domain was something that'll be difficult to deal with and so he went into the fight with a plan in mind (which wouldn't make sense if Sukuna could just shield against the sure-hit given Sukuna's domain is barrierless and he had no idea about the healing of burnt out cursed techniques)
Lightning did a break down of this on Twitter where they said the "him" in question is relating to Sukuna, I can try find it later, and when I say he used Megumi's soul a shield I'm not saying Sukuna manipulated Gojo's sure-hit I'm saying that he's redirecting the damage of it onto Megumi (essentially your first interpretation).Yeah that translation is a bit weird. Because Sukuna has no way of shifting it to Megumi. You can't control sure hit effects like that. It is completely impossible.
I'll give you two interpretations.
the first one is that it assumes that. Sukuna and Gojo's domain sure hit targeted everything else. But unlike Gojo, Sukuna did not have this overlap his area.
So, the sure hit from Gojo's UV being sent towards Sukuna, were not cancelled
And so it basically hit Sukuna
Basically, While it hit Sukuna, Sukuna made it so that it rather hit Megumi instead of him. This is the first interpretation.
However there's a second interpretation. That is, the sure hit (from malevolent shrine) that didn't hit around Sukuna wasn't canceled towards Sukuna himself, but rather Megumi. So any sure hit effect intending to directly affect Sukuna instead, got cancelled. but Megumi wasn't protected.
The first interpretation assumes that Sukuna can transfer the UV intending to hit him, to Megumi.
The second interpretation assumes that Sukuna's MS sure hit weren't cancelld towards himself but Megumi instead, so Megumi got hit by it.
I think the second interpretation is more fair and sensible. The first interpretation assumes that Sukuna can somehow manipulate UV.
The second interpretation doesn't assume that, but rather assumes Sukuna shielded himself with his own MS sure hit effect but didn't extend that shield to Megumi
Shishiso TL:
"...And Sukuna's commands targeting everything inside the domain except himself" (The "himself" can be interpreted to be referring to Megumi. Which is why in this paragraph it says
"So no Sure-Hit Commands towards HIM (notice how it is bolded?) were canceled"
This supports my interpretation.
We know that there is some sort of distinction between vessels, etc, the body that these characters have. Like how culling games themselves work like. Instead of saying Kenjaku they say Geto, and do the same for the others.
Doesn’t mean that having more muscles doesn’t benefit him hereSecond of all, Sukuna's inherently immense physical strength is displayed even in his vessels. Do note it's stated to be his and not Yuji's
Also this is just headcanonHe gets hit by a true power barrier less domain quicker than he can activate UV, and then Sukuna beats him
Todo’s reinforcement < Miguel’s. Also his innate physical strength < Miguel’sThe muscles size point is a bit weird, and I don't think it works like that
Todo is 3 times bigger than Miguel and Gojo still makes an exception for Miguel in comparison to Japan sorcerers.
Reinforcements are irrelevant hereTodo’s reinforcement < Miguel’s.
This invalidates your point then about Sukuna becoming stronger with bigger muscles because Todo is bigger than both Yuji and Miguel but they are physically strongerAlso his innate physical strength < Miguel’s
Well Yuji was quite literally born different so he's the exceptionThis invalidates your point then about Sukuna becoming stronger with bigger muscles because Todo is bigger than both Yuji and Miguel but they are physically stronger
Without muscles?Well Yuji was quite literally born different so he's the exceptional
Miguel is definitely not more built than Todo who is around the same height as Gojo (taller than 6'3) and referred to as a gorillaWithout muscles?
Okay what about Miguel?
And still, Gojo makes an exception for Miguel, an exception that was never made to any Japanese sorcerersMiguel is definitely not more jacked than Todo who is referred to as a gorilla
Nice headcanon.Megukuna was also on like 5 HP and wasn't actually fighting back