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I read on reddit that the kanji for "awakening" (覚醒) in the recent chapter were only used once before in the entire manga and that was when gojo had his awakening/enlightenment vs toji, when he gained RCT.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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So you agree the scene shows Cursya as faster than Maki then
Okay, what contradictions exist then? When does Cursya outspeed Kamo without accelerating to the speed of sound or beyond?
No it hasn't, also Kusakabe, human Naoya, and Naobito still slam so not every grade 1.
That doesn't mean he's at his peak, especially since he was a foetus for those 150 years, so idk why you love making up these assumptions and then using them as your basis. I go off of feats, if a character demonstrates that they can react to another character in a fight, I don't say "oh but this other character trained for a really really really long time and he's not fast", I accept the feats and move on with it. Give me anti-feats to Kamo being subsonic or stop derailing about Kamo.
You're not even engaging with the argument anymore. You've basically dropped 90% of your points of contention and your only meaningful attempts at criticism are you having issue with me saying Kamo scales to a certain level - completely unremoved from the Maki discussion. Nice implicit concession ig.
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put your stocks in Yuji...
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I been locked in
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Not by that muchSo you agree the scene shows Cursya as faster than Maki then
When he's not flying and when he tags Kamo with him barely reacting. Also even just by flying Kamo barely reacts from hundreds of meters away
You literally put Kamo above Naoya and Naobito...
Gojo hit his peak at 27. There's no way that Choso gets insanely stronger after 150 years of training.
Other people like Mei Mei also hit their physical peak before 150, and Mei Mei herself has greater potential than a weakling like Kamo
Him being weaker is the anti feat, and also not wanking like you're doing here
No? Stop saying stuff like this, besides your blatant dishonest wank
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Show, because when he's flying through the air and building speed that's him using projection sorcery to reach upwards of mach 3 speeds, not his base speed.
When?
Nothing suggests Gojo's at his peak, and it's also fine for some characters to have different peaks.
show the feat of him being weaker then...
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His statements about people surpassing him imply he's at his own peak
Gojo's like "Oh Yuta and Hakari MIGHT surpass me," not implying "oh they MIGHT become stronger than me rn, but I'll get way stronger later," it's more like surpassing him in general
The statement suggests it, you have to twist it dishonestly like you did with the sumo shit to say "Omg it's stated she's completely different and way stronger" when it's literally about her f*cking vibes
He has to stack even further to reach mach 3.
Here in this thread you've claimed this
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why?
Circular disagreement, niceeeeeeeeeeeee. Guac, when you drop a point don't then reference it as the basis for another point without first addressing the evidence you ignored the first time around.
Not even an engagement with what I said at all.
I don't remember saying that, but if I did I was wrong. My current position, and the position I've had for weeks, is that Kamo is below Naoya, Naobito, and Kusakabe. There's other grade 1's or lower too ig, like Yuji, Higuruma, Hakari, Choso, Maki, etc.
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read my edited response
it's literally not thoguh? you have to lterally stretch and be dishonest to arrive at your reading
please just stop, you're not convincing anyone, and the arguments you're making are embarrassing.
You had him above all those people.
Kamo is below every grade 1
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You're supplementing meaning into the text which isn't necessitated, but this is a mute point anyway idrc.
I had Kamo ABOVE Maki, Hakari, Higuruma, Yuji, etc? Show me ever saying this PLS, it'll be my biggest L.
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No, you had him above Naobito, Naoya, and basically every grade 1
FTR, Human Naoya is already close to Toji level. He was strong enough to damage him, first of all, and faster so he really did stand with Toji and Post RCT Gojo. Post RCT Gojo probably loses to Human Naoya
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Guac really trying to challenge Arkenis' band for band supremacy. Will he be up to the task?
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I mean I just don't remember this, but I've already said now I disagree with that position so I don't see the point in continuing to mention it as if to try hold me to it.
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Guacamolefletcher
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absurd tier list
Bro had teen Geto over Toji. I think I'd make something like this after taking 100 kg of crack or something like that. Ah yes, Yaga the grade 1 below like 3 semi grade 1 students...
Bruh, Higuruma above f*cking Yuki Tsukumo... Even with domain, he would only confiscate her cursed tool Garuda. She'd punch through his max reinforcement.
At least some respect on Suguru Geto, the true owner of the open barrier domain expansion "All eveloping garbadhatu"
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Toji amped himself with a BV before fighting him and Geto ~ Gojo
Ganji got blitzed by panda and is featless otherwise, with the grades not being perfect indicators of strength
Garuda is a shikigami that simply behaves as a cursed tool, so CT confiscation + her CE reinforcement weakens as a result, she has no feats for surviving a fight after that.
nah
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interesting
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Post RCT Gojo violates Naoya
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Huh
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Human Naoya is Post Shibuya Yuji victim 
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This is probably one of the worst lists I’ve ever seen made by a human.
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name your issues with it then
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Too much.
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either way your comment it insane given we've just had someone arguing for several hours defending the scaling chain: "Curse Naoya >> Human Naoya > RCT Gojo = Toji = Maki ~ 15F Sukuna" after disagreeing peak Sukuna could scale above Naoya's mach 3 speeds, but maybe you agree with Guac idk
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nobara>sukuna...
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Wasn’t reading their argument nor do I care. Your list still sucks.
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send yours
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Haven’t made one. I’m also waiting for more Awakened Yuji feats to solidly push him > Maki & Hakari (I already have him above them).
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Because you didn't have Yuta above 15F Sukuna
RCT Gojo violates all the Naoyas together
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nah, Naoya gets him
Literally yappingHuman Naoya is Post Shibuya Yuji victim
Fax
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true....
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Since we are doing our tierlists again
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Maki > pre RCT Gojo > Toji....??!Since we are doing our tierlists again
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Toji was unsure if he could beat Gojo which is why he wore him down
Also I'm of the opinion that Maki got stronger during the timeskip
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True nobara is the strongest
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Im not questioning Toji's position, but how Maki is above Gojo and Toji when we know she's equal to Toji
But alright, I can see now why you're saying Maki is above Toji
But explain how she beats Gojo?
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I would honestly put miguel higher than yuki and mahoraga if he continued to fight sukuna and give him serious damage (yes i did remove message cuz my blind ass repliet to someone else)Since we are doing our tierlists again
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I used Kyoka Suigutsu on you
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CAP. Cursed Spirit Naoya beats Post RCT Gojo fr. Gojo doesn't have the precog, and once he gets hit by that, he's turned into mush.
In fact, here's my hot take:
Cursed Spirit Naoya hits similarly hard to the black flash that didn't even knock out Maki
What the ****.
Muta < Cursya
why THE **** is PPA Maki >>> Naobito????
Kamo <<<< Grade 1
Panda = Grade 1
Juzo = Grade 1
Yaga > Gakuganji
Todo < Mei Mei and Nanami
WHY THE **** is teen Geto there
WHY THE **** is "Pre-RCT Satoru" there
Toji > Maki in a fight
Uro > Geto
Heian Sukuna > the verse
Awakened Satoru < Kenjaku
She did not. The perfected version of Maki is Toji, so he's the peak of what she can achieve
