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Ultima_Reality

Ultima_Reality

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  • Catpija
    Hello, sorry for bothering you. i wanted to ask you regarding this post. Does a structure that contain a 2A place makes it L1C?
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Not inherently, no. Containing something doesn't necessarily means being larger than it, when infinity is concerned. You'd need more developed explanations than "Contains a 2-A thing."
    Catpija
    Catpija
    I see, thanks for clarifying
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    is this Acausality type 5?

    Beings who are free from the laws of causality, let's call them A, but are not transcendent of them. There are other beings who are "transcendent" of the law of causality (I know they won't be Acausal type 5 because there isn't much information, so let's say they are just higher degree of...
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    Can you help with this?
    RoTt35
    Hello, I would appreciate if you could give your input on this thread when you have time, it is about a possible Low 1-C character based on R>F. Thanks in advance
    Guacamolefletcher
    Hey ultima, can you help me by evaluating this thread about parallel spaces in a mathematical sense? i say this because I've seen far too much downplay about the cosmology of things that should literally be 4-dimensional in size without any mention of space-time shenanigans because of parallel spaces, which automatically should imply 4-dimensional size.

    Here is the thread with my proposition and explanation why.
    Reiner04
    Hey ultima, I wanted to ask that in tier 2a, are we assume to affect insignificant 5d structure in which timelines exist?
    Reiner04
    Hey ultima, I was curious about one thing, we have specified in Low 2c that Destroying a universe and it's "all past present and future" would be low 2c, but technically can't a character should be able to achieve this tier even if he destroys Aleph 1 numbers of High 3a structure? That said, isn't specifying "all of past, present and future" is kinda not necessary? Given that condition can be met with any amount of time.
    Antvasima
    Hello.

    I have sent you some PM messages, and AKM sama said that you told him that you would read and respond to them several days ago, but despite visiting this forum several times since then, you do not seem to have done so yet.
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    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    I understand as much, yes. Like I said, I'll try to set aside some time to take care of at least more pressing matters, wiki-wise. It's hard to tell when my general activity outside of that will normalize, but for now, I suppose the answer is "Late November."
    Antvasima
    Antvasima
    Okay. Thank you for the information.
    wwereymy235
    wwereymy235
    I disagree with the downgrade, based on my experience the evidence is not enough for a downgrade
    Dereck03
    Hey Ultima, I have a bit of a peculiar question.

    We have a universe, this universe is infinite in size and has countless divine domains in it that are microcosms of the world. One of the divine domains can contain infinite timelines that are compared to the universe, so by containing them, that divine domain becomes a 2-A structure, and it just being a microcosm of the universe, so the universe becomes 2-A because it is able to contain countless of those divine domains. Then we have 99+ layers, these layers are infinite in size and are capable of containing countless up to infinite universes (2-A), and then we have a massively even larger structure called "SS" which is capable of containing all of the above. Even characters that can see the infinity of universes and layers cannot see or imagine the infinity of the "SS". My question is, what would be the tier based on these structures? Something more than 2-A or just 2-A stacking structures?
    It should be noted that each universe has a different timeline between them and the "SS" has its own timeline as well.

    It should be noted that the layers have a dimensional difference (although it is not implied that they are higher dimensions) for example, someone capable of destroying a universe (2-A) in layer 1, could not even destroy a simple ship in layer 2 even a grain of air means a great weight to them (and it applies not only to AP, but also to Hax, Laws, Concepts, Speed, toughness, strength).

    Hope you can answer.
    Dereck03
    Dereck03
    I'll just bump once and I won't do it again.
    Hey Ultima if it's not touch trouble can you give me your thoughts on my universal+ jinwoo revision post
    Fifthist
    i have some interesting stuff from placeholder mcd regarding the scp cosmology. where can i send it to you?
    Gasper
    Hey, ultima could you please comment on mine world of darkness minor upgrade please? I hope i am not annoying you.
    Donatien
    Hello. I responded to your objections to my argument on this thread. However, firestorm told me he wants to prioritize his argument in the thread, so I might as well talk about it on here since no ones posted on the thread in a while. What do you think about my defense of my argument?
    Delta333
    I have a question, if each interval of one timeline exists as its own universe (for example, those from the future will see their own world from the past as another space-time), what is the tier of the entire timeline?
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    Delta333
    Delta333
    @Ultima_Reality something like that, although the series doesn't outright say that each point is a space-time, it only says that a period of time in the history and a period of time in the future are two separate universes with time flows
    Reiner04
    Reiner04
    Afaik I don't think it's said anywhere that future and history are separate universes with different time flows though, are you sure abt that?
    Delta333
    Delta333
    @Reiner I talk about another series
    Reiner04
    I am just left with one topic which is if hilbert space in manyworlds interpretation of quantum mechanics in which universes are embedded in a infinite dimensional sea of hilbert space is qualified for tier high 1b?
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    If the infinite-dimensional space is an actual, physical thing in which the timelines are embedded, then, yeah.
    Reiner04
    Reiner04
    Thanks for addressing my question. It's a huge help.
    Timeless
    With the recent addition of Self-Reference ENGINE, will/when pages for characters such as Laplace's Demon be added?
    Reiner04
    I'd one question, if each point along timeline has its own fabric of spacetime, then will destroying entire timeline would count as 2b, if the timeline is infinite?
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Oh, wew, that is one late answer. But, regardless: Not really, no. Each point along the time axis by definition is purely 3-dimensional, and as such has no extension into the temporal dimension. It's just a static picture of the universe, pretty much, with 0 duration.
    Reiner04
    Reiner04
    Thanks (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)
    Jamesthetaker
    Hi there, Ultima. I want to ask a question about how we treated unique cases of higher dimensions.

    Basically, there is a verse that follows the string theory, in which there are 11 overlapping dimensions like membranes. The 11 dimensions are seen as a manifold, and higher dimensions trivialize lower dimensions via R/F Interaction. However, there are alien creatures called Engines that live in one of the 11 dimensions, and they aren't exactly higher-dimensional beings.

    How do we treat the 11 dimensions in this case? Do they still count as legit higher dimensions or do they not because the natives who live there aren't higher beings?
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    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    The clip didn't state that the dimensions were branes or even places. The Human World contains the universe where humans live, not that it's the place itself.

    The clip even shows a manifold space made of those 11 dimensions, which highly suggests the brane theory. Also, the series already portrayed alternative universes with different visuals, so it's unlikely that those dimensions are parallel universes.
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    It very much does. The very first thing said in it is "The world is made up of 11 overlapping dimensions, like membranes," and then we have a little visual of 11 membranes being shown side-by-side, each a different "world."

    Pretty obviously not axes, and the membranes being initially depicted as crumpled together into a sphere does nothing to suggest that this is what they are. All a "manifold" is, also, is a space that's locally flat (In the sense it has the same properties as euclidean space in some given area of it), so, that doesn't even do much to support your argument, either.

    Alternate universes being depicted using different visuals elsewhere would be good to break ambiguity, too, but as it were, there is none here. Everything in that clip points towards those "11 dimensions" not being spatial ones.
    Jamesthetaker
    Jamesthetaker
    Alright then, thank you for your help.
    Sniper670
    Hello. I was wondering about qualifications for getting tier 1A off of Apophatic Theology. Or at least how one can be considered Apophatic, on the wiki.

    Is simply being ineffable/unknowable /incomprehensible enough? I got mixed answers. It's also not mentioned anywhere on the tiering system. And even this, isn't all that clear
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Statements of ineffability or incomprehensibility generally are not enough, no, since to prove such a thing, you'd need the verse to establish that this is an inherent property of the character in question, instead of just some hyperbolic statement that's meant to be talking about how they're hard to grasp (Even 4-dimensional space is visually incomprehensible to us, after all)

    I think the Nasuverse is a good enough example of this. Since it actually goes out of its way to say that the Root always escapes any definitions one attempts to impose on it, which automatically just refer to something apart from, and below the Root itself.
    Sniper670
    Sniper670
    Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification
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