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[Deonment]

Magic in GoW is conceptual and have info 2 hax which mean it affect both concept 1 and info 2, that mean its info 2 can interact with concept type 1. I wasn't talking about layer though

That simply saying soul can exist without having concept. So practically similar to A immune to X hax cause it lack X aspect, not something like how you guys had phrased

No?
In any case, I do not care enough to argue about this given the chaos upgrades, so

 

[Vietthai96]

No?

Yes?

I mean, people was phrased it weird so i complain about that. Kind of saying GoW Info 2 can interact with Concept despite the Magic have both CM1 and Info 2

In any case, I do not care enough to argue about this given the chaos upgrades, so

Yeah, fair enough

 

[Robo432343]

Chaos should take the spot either way since she stomps every dmc character apart from mundus which is just incon

 

[Hecky2222]

every dmc character apart from mundus which is just incon

Eh incon via?

 

[Robo432343]

its either incon or a stomp for chaos
(dmc guys still arguing incon??)

 

[Hecky2222]

its either incon or a stomp for chaos
(dmc guys still arguing incon??)

Like if we assume

GoW has Info erasure and Mundus doesn't even have NEP for Info. Chaos would win simply with this alone.

 

[Tanin_iver]

The Info glaze and Power padding in the profiles is wild in the wiki.

 

[Hecky2222]

The Info glaze and Power padding in the profiles is wild in the wiki.

I think CM1 in the wiki more glazed instead (Look at Ben 10 justification)

 

[Deonment]

I mean, people was phrased it weird so i complain about that. Kind of saying GoW Info 2 can interact with Concept despite the Magic have both CM1 and Info 2

I mean, fair, the issue wasn't with that, it was with the fact that the information erasure would not actually impact Mundus in any relevant way moreso (seeing as how he can act as a purely inexistent soul), interaction wasn't the main issue to begin with

 

[Tanin_iver]

I think CM1 in the wiki more glazed instead (Look at Ben 10 justification)

Can agree a bit. U forgot Plot. Also it's kinda all of the Reality Warping powers in general.

 

[Tanin_iver]

I am honestly surprised people are arguing erasing Mundus essence by erasing it's respective rune, even tho Mundus can survive the erasure of it's essence? Like taking an extra step to achieve the same outcome as what CM does already, but alas.

 

[Deonment]

I am honestly surprised people are arguing erasing Mundus essence by erasing it's respective rune, even tho Mundus can survive the erasure of it's essence? Like taking an extra step to achieve the same outcome as what CM does already, but alas.

It isn't erasing Mundus, it's erasing mundus' ability to interface with reality

 

[RubyVeronica]

I think CM1 in the wiki more glazed instead (Look at Ben 10 justification)

Ben 10 has concept manipulation? I dont see it on Alien X profile

 

[Tanin_iver]

It isn't erasing Mundus, it's erasing mundus' ability to interface with reality

Ah so argument went the other way, reality nuking, hmmm. That would be inconclusive.

Or maybe if we wanna argue it affects Mundus ability to exist somehow even tho his Soul would still kinda exist, would it exist without reality?

If we go that route then Chaos would have won even without the NEP2.
So it's incon or Chaos stomps via reality nuke.

 

[Robo432343]

we should assume concept>information by default because you can have the concept of information but you can't really have the information of a concept

 

[Vietthai96]

we should assume concept>information by default because you can have the concept of information but you can't really have the information of a concept

You can have information that creates concepts. SMT/Persona has this system

 

[Deonment]

we should assume concept>information by default because you can have the concept of information but you can't really have the information of a concept

More robo bad takes
Anyways, me looking at digimon:
Anyways, you can pretty cleanly have information that governs concepts or concepts that govern information

 

[Robo432343]

More robo bad takes
Anyways, me looking at digimon:
Anyways, you can pretty cleanly have information that governs concepts or concepts that govern information

i think i just hate info 2 because of how many unfair matchups it causes and complicates things

btw do you think chaos having NEP 2 would make her above the dmc guys?

 

[Hecky2222]

In Tensura as well information governs everything

 

[Deonment]

i think i just hate info 2 because of how many unfair matchups it causes

I mean, that's not an issue with the power, that's an issue with people's understanding of it, hate the players, not the game, and all that

btw do you think chaos having NEP 2 would make her above the dmc guys?

I mean I'd imagine so but I can't exactly be brought to think about it further, so

 

[Robo432343]

In Tensura as well information governs everything

tensura finally getting tier 2
this is the first step to getting Low 1-C back

 

[Hecky2222]

this is the first step to getting Low 1-C back

 

[Planck69]

we should assume concept>information by default because you can have the concept of information but you can't really have the information of a concept

You can have anything of anything if a series defines it as such. This is dumb

And I say that as someone who thinks information 2 is overglazed.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

the argument was that soul/concept layers > above gow's paygrade so souls are not getting nuked, can they affect chaos now? nope so incon

Anyways Hellfilth is also a thing now and her MO is to literally nuke the multiverse and **** off to another realm

so, who here can survive and fight from infinite L1C dimensions away? Cuz other DMC chars sure can't

 

[Vietthai96]

Anyways Hellfilth is also a thing now and her MO is to literally nuke the multiverse and **** off to another realm

the hell is this low quality profile?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

the hell is this low quality profile?

Peak of Combat quality

 

[Vietthai96]

I will never be able to stop disliking that game

 

[Deonment]

Peak of Combat quality

Peak of Combat Quality

 

[Tanin_iver]

I will never be able to stop disliking that game

Peak of Cope.

the argument was that soul/concept layers > above gow's paygrade so souls are not getting nuked, can they affect chaos now? nope so incon

Anyways Hellfilth is also a thing now and her MO is to literally nuke the multiverse and **** off to another realm

so, who here can survive and fight from infinite L1C dimensions away? Cuz other DMC chars sure can't

Lol, I didn't even know we had Hellfilth profile. So, incon it is ehh?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Peak of Cope.

Lol, I didn't even know we had Hellfilth profile. So, incon it is ehh?

For regular DMC, yeah Incon

Hellfilth is its own can of worms and all that, besides it doesn't count as part of DMC per se

in fact I would say Hellfilth would win because the "nuke your reality from a multiverse away" part which only Dante can survive but still lacks the range to reach Hellfilth

 

[Tanin_iver]

Hellfilth is its own can of worms and all that, besides it doesn't count as part of DMC per se

It is as much part of DMC as VM itself is.

 

[Deonment]

Anyways Hellfilth is also a thing now and her MO is to literally nuke the multiverse and **** off to another realm

so, who here can survive and fight from infinite L1C dimensions away? Cuz other DMC chars sure can't

An issue I'm going to bring up of the whole, SBA putting you at 4KM so if the characters are fast enough on the quick draw (on speed equal or unequal) they can just not deal with that

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

An issue I'm going to bring up of the whole, SBA putting you at 4KM so if the characters are fast enough on the quick draw (on speed equal or unequal) they can just not deal with that

indeed

hmmm

hopefully PoC doesn't make them immeasurable next time

 

[Deonment]

hopefully PoC doesn't make them immeasurable next time

Listen, all I'm saying is that if yall get unironic unedited 9D from future PoC content, I will be split between being surprised and not being surprised at all

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Listen, all I'm saying is that if yall get unironic unedited 9D from future PoC content, I will be split between being surprised and not being surprised at all

tbh of all the scans I could find from the 1.0 era I never saw the 9D shit or the Name stuff, many were real but those apparently are completely fabricated so I don't expect them to be back...

besides that guy who apparently got a ton of those in the new versions and made some videos and a sandbox but he vanished and deleted the blog so I guess those were fake too

 

[SuperSonicTL]

the hell is this low quality profile?

Some trash (profile) among all other trashes (Profiles)

 

[Deonment]

tbh of all the scans I could find from the 1.0 era I never saw the 9D shit or the Name stuff, many were real but those apparently are completely fabricated so I don't expect them to be back...

besides that guy who apparently got a ton of those in the new versions and made some videos and a sandbox but he vanished and deleted the blog so I guess those were fake too

I know about them being faked and all, but I mean if a future update drops new incidental 9D bullshit

 

[SuperSonicTL]

I know about them being faked and all, but I mean if a future update drops new incidental 9D bullshit

Even if it unironically became true and they dropped some dimensions in there, I doubt we would get 9D potency just like that considering the current standards.

 

[Tanin_iver]

Even if it unironically became true and they dropped some dimensions in there, I doubt we would get 9D potency just like that considering the current standards.

Yeah, it would probably be even higher

 

[Tanin_iver]

Hey guys, would like to hear your thoughts on this Q&A thread

Questions about Metaphysical abilities that are contingent on reality.

Dependent Concepts: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality within their area of influence. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the...

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