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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Kachon123 said:
Implied to be as strong as his Darkshine fight self (limiter break)
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Does that last panel also imply Bang is actually in better shape than when he fought Monster Garou? Also would this current Garou still have his skill scaling from his Monster Forms? He clearly doesn't have the cosmic stuff but he should still maintain all the different moves he created up until he got the God amp, right? Even if he can't use all of them since he doesn't have four arms anymore like his final Monster form.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Does that last panel also imply Bang is actually in better shape than when he fought Monster Garou?
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I figured he was just joking here, but we probably won't see for years lol. Bang has still not done anything in the robot invasion arc in the webcomic and we still have 30 chapters to adapt in the webcomic.
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Also would this current Garou still have his skill scaling from his Monster Forms? He clearly doesn't have the cosmic stuff but he should still maintain all the different moves he created up until he got the God amp, right? Even if he can't use all of them since he doesn't have four arms anymore like his final Monster form.
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No, he doesn't have God Slayer fist-- it was a huge deal in the Bang fight when Garou revealed the Roaring Aura fist which is only a fraction of his completed style. In the Webcomic when Garou has the "nooo my power is draining" moment, he says "God Slayer fist is leaking out of me...".

How can knowledge drain out of someone is hard to explain but I don't think Garou will get those skills back until the end of series arc tbh-- he's also very much on the margins during the current webcomic arcs and letting the heroes handle the situation, so I think the spotlight stays away with him until the end of series when we need a squad of heavy hitters to take on "God".
 
Pepsiman25th said:
any timeframe on when we'll finally get to the robots arc?
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Yeah, it's about 13-14 webcomic chapters away from yesterday's manga chapter. If we go fast, which would be a bad thing... we could start the Organization War as soon as fall. And why would that be bad...?

Because next chapter we're going to start the five dragon battles. BTW, Black S calls it a "carnival" so can we call this mini-arc the "Dragon Carnival 🫣"? That's because if we have to upgrade Flashy Flash, Tanktop Master and well probably not Genos (since he's technically had this transformation for a while) we can give the them a 'dragon carnival key" which is much more memorable than "post Ninja-Village" and "post-MA".

In the webcomic, the five dragons first appear and then are all dead within literally 32 pages in the webcomic, lmao. That's literally one chapter worth of content and the fights are mostly just 2-3 panels with the notable exception of Machine God Mirror.

I'll be quite mad if ONE decides to continue his policy of adapting the WC to manga 1:1 becaues this is the perfect chance to show off Murata's choreography expanding on fights that are basically off-screen. Show me how Genos get scrapped off screen by Extended Family of Darkness, show me Tanktop Master actually holding his ground against a city level threat, show me what Blue's first life-or-death fight looks like... don't just cut to the end result and have the characters narrate how they're feeling. Please ONE I'm begging you...

If ONE decides to literally add nothing and allow the manga to catch fully up to the webcomic, we'll be at the robots arc in a jiffy. I'll be really sad if that's what happens though
 
Quangotjokes said:
There will definetly be fights that get adapted longer than in the webcomic. Sonic Vs you know who for instance
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That only makes sense, especially because if nothing gets extend we'll run out of WC content to adapt to the manga.

However I do worry given how there do seem to be greater publishing forces and timeline constraints at play. I'm still wracking my brain to understand the double redraws with the Ninja Village arc, as there's been no official explanation for that mess and ever since that went down we've been nearly 1:1 to one with the webcomic, only redrawn chapter 224 has really played with the choreography (and with almost no significant plot alterations).
 
Bored but semi-curious question to all the OPM fans here: If Garou had awakened into his actual Awakened Monster form like in the Webcomic but still had his Cosmic Garou type shenanigans without God's interference, would that have that have been more satisfying?
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Bored but semi-curious question to all the OPM fans here: If Garou had awakened into his actual Awakened Monster form like in the Webcomic but still had his Cosmic Garou type shenanigans without God's interference, would that have that have been more satisfying?
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I think God not being obviously involved is an improvement; I'm of the opinion that Garou's transformation in the WC involved God anyhow (note how Garou says "thank you" while looking up after he gets his bulky monster form).

The more important thing is that Garou still has agency with his monster form. Yes, the monsterization is distorting his personality, but it's not like he's warped to the point where he would start massacring heroes passively. What made Garou vs the S-class so great was how personal it was. God puppeting Garou really undercuts the conclusion to an arc centered on his personal ambitions and willpower propelling him to where he wants (only for him to realize that his dreams are flawed).
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Bored but semi-curious question to all the OPM fans here: If Garou had awakened into his actual Awakened Monster form like in the Webcomic but still had his Cosmic Garou type shenanigans without God's interference, would that have that have been more satisfying?
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I think so since it still lets Garo have his agency. In the manga, he was already giving up, so God forced him to keep fighting, while in the webcomic, he was fighting the S-Class/Class-S and Saitama of his own volition.
 
Now that Amai is done-zo, Iaian is technically A-class rank 1.

I'm debating with someone who is better suited to be the top A-class hero, him or Fubuki. What do you all think?

For me, it's pretty obvious Iaian is the better pick because he's more experienced, has better stamina and much more survivability with his speed + sword than Fubuki has with her barriers.

Fubuki deserves huge credit for beating Psykos, but she was waking up from a severe concussion before the 1v1 and we know brain damage hugely nerfs Espers. Fubuki also deserves huge credit for surviving 1 Rover blast- I'm sure Iaian would die if Rover snuck up on him like that.

However, while Fubuki has 2 dragon fights, Iaian has three- and he survived Melzalgald in his debut. Compare that to Fubuki who couldn't see post G4 Genos. Likewise, there's an argument than Iaian beats DO-S pretty comfortably where Fubuki was really struggling with her. Fubuki had a hard time holding back the controlled Fubuki group while Iaian's only concern was not killing the mercenaries-- if he wanted to cut their heads off Amai-style the fight's over in a second and DO-S is alone. Then we know human Amai kicks DO-S's butt easy, but Iaian was able to outspeed Amai before he could kill the Mercenaries, maybe Amai is still faster but not by that much. So Iaian can def kill DO-S imo.

However, Fubuki definitely has a much higher growth potential and has a "main character" buff that Iaian doesn't, so she has a much better chance of being a solidly dragon-level fighter at the end of the series than Iaian does. Let me know what you think.
 
Ourosboros said:
Now that Amai is done-zo, Iaian is technically A-class rank 1.

I'm debating with someone who is better suited to be the top A-class hero, him or Fubuki. What do you all think?

For me, it's pretty obvious Iaian is the better pick because he's more experienced, has better stamina and much more survivability with his speed + sword than Fubuki has with her barriers.

Fubuki deserves huge credit for beating Psykos, but she was waking up from a severe concussion before the 1v1 and we know brain damage hugely nerfs Espers. Fubuki also deserves huge credit for surviving 1 Rover blast- I'm sure Iaian would die if Rover snuck up on him like that.

However, while Fubuki has 2 dragon fights, Iaian has three- and he survived Melzalgald in his debut. Compare that to Fubuki who couldn't see post G4 Genos. Likewise, there's an argument than Iaian beats DO-S pretty comfortably where Fubuki was really struggling with her. Fubuki had a hard time holding back the controlled Fubuki group while Iaian's only concern was not killing the mercenaries-- if he wanted to cut their heads off Amai-style the fight's over in a second and DO-S is alone. Then we know human Amai kicks DO-S's butt easy, but Iaian was able to outspeed Amai before he could kill the Mercenaries, maybe Amai is still faster but not by that much. So Iaian can def kill DO-S imo.

However, Fubuki definitely has a much higher growth potential and has a "main character" buff that Iaian doesn't, so she has a much better chance of being a solidly dragon-level fighter at the end of the series than Iaian does. Let me know what you think.
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Fubuki has higher ups, but Ian of the Iron is more consistent
 
Quangotjokes said:
Btw do we scale Boros above that space fleet that came to avenge him?
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I wouldn't mind, especially considering the aliens found it necessary to use all their cannons to kill Saitama, who had defeated Boros, so I guess it's appropriate, but I don't know... I've seen stronger arguments dismissed.
 
Ourosboros said:
Probably Barou because wtf is going on in Blue Lock (I assume he can summon tier 1 Lovecraftian entities with schizophrenia like the memes say)
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He's a Conqueror's Haki/Black Flash user so close enough tbh
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Ourosboros said:
Huh Multi-cont is kinda low for this feat
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I also think it's too low. (I'm not guaranteeing that the calc's assumption or method is accurate or anything :d)

Hmm, the beam destroys the ship. So maybe we can just use KE?

Mass : 5.85166287e18 kg
Speed : 97648.6395 m/s (Distance between the explosion's end point to ship's normal width / 1 second)
Energy : 2.78985541e28 Joule (6.6679 Exatons, High 6-A)

There are 14 cannons, so it'd be 3.90579757e29 Joule (93.3508 Exatons, 5-C) for the total ig?

Maybe just using narrative to push for possibly 5-B or something like that is better?
 
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MrTayman616 said:
I also think it's too low. (I'm not saying the calc's assumption or method is accurate or anything :d)

Hmm, the beam destroys the ship. So maybe we can just use KE?

Mass : 5.85166287e18 kg
Speed : 97648.6395 m/s (Distance between the explosion's end point to ship's normal width / 1 second)
Energy : 2.78985541e28 Joule (6.6679 Exatons, High 6-A)

There are 14 cannons, so it'd be 3.90579757e29 Joule (93.3508 Exatons, 5-C) for the total ig?

Maybe just using narrative to push for possibly 5-B or something like that is better?
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I think taking the baseline of the 5-B (59.44 Zettatons) and dividing it by 14 (4.25 Zettatons) is enough, at least as a high-ball.
 
MrTayman616 said:
I also think it's too low. (I'm not guaranteeing that the calc's assumption or method is accurate or anything :d)

Hmm, the beam destroys the ship. So maybe we can just use KE?

Mass : 5.85166287e18 kg
Speed : 97648.6395 m/s (Distance between the explosion's end point to ship's normal width / 1 second)
Energy : 2.78985541e28 Joule (6.6679 Exatons, High 6-A)

There are 14 cannons, so it'd be 3.90579757e29 Joule (93.3508 Exatons, 5-C) for the total ig?

Maybe just using narrative to push for possibly 5-B or something like that is better?
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It could be an idea... in the meantime you need to contact the CGM
 
I just realized something.


Although Saitama's reactions aren't used to gauge the strength of attacks, in this panel Boros uses a surprise attack to strike Saitama from behind, and Saitama is clearly able to sense/perceive the attack. Logically, wouldn't this make Boros's strength scale above surprise attacks that Saitama didn't sense/perceive?
 
EnderLord8 said:
I just realized something.


Although Saitama's reactions aren't used to gauge the strength of attacks, in this panel Boros uses a surprise attack to strike Saitama from behind, and Saitama is clearly able to sense/perceive the attack. Logically, wouldn't this make Boros's strength scale above surprise attacks that Saitama didn't sense/perceive?
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This would only work with versions of Saitama prior to his fight with Boros
Greater Accelerated Development (Saitama's strength grows so rapidly that each day, he can one-shot the version of himself from the day before)
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Maybe we can scale him to Saitama seeing himself in the mirror in some way lol.

I rather got curious about Flash vs Gale Wind and HellFlame. We currently use the rock's speed for frozen speed, but can't we use the light from the explosion?

It hadn't reached it's peak intensity/brightness. Can't we use how long it takes for light to reach it's peak in detonation state or based on hypervelocity impacts etc? Is there nothing to use here?
 
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