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General DC Comics Discussion Thread
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Well, DC Comics cosmology is functioning in a weird and extremely inconsistent manner, due to that characters canonically get immensely empowered or depowered depending on which level of existence they occupy at the moment, and that different writers do not keep proper track of the scale of feats and powerlevels of characters, and this seemed far too temporary and unreliable a feat to be listed. If Shazam starts to consistently display insanely high power levels, like the Flash does, that is a very different matter. 
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They have some... interesting stuff
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I agree, if Shazams upcoming arc treats him with that power then there wouldn't be a problem but for now it's a bit iffyWell, DC Comics cosmology is functioning in a weird and extremely inconsistent manner, due to that characters canonically get immensely empowered or depowered depending on which level of existence they occupy at the moment, and that different writers do not keep proper track of the scale of feats and powerlevels of characters, and this seemed far too temporary and unreliable a feat to be listed. If Shazam starts to consistently display insanely high power levels, like the Flash does, that is a very different matter.
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Let's ignore the fact Shazam also created a 1-A god throught a Rock of Eternity amp too
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Wait what?Let's ignore the fact Shazam also created a 1-A god throught a Rock of Eternity amp too
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When Neron tricked him into enhanced Raven by giving him the power of Shazam and the magic of the Rock and created the Unkindness
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Ah. Outer Shazam has some consistency then.
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Should tdk and perpetua have immortality negation for type 4 and 8?
flash 2023 issue 29
immortality type 4 and 8 for speedsters?
Perpetua broked the speedforce and tdk could corrupt it
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Meh it would require them to permanently kill a Speedster for this
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Maybe black flash?
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I don’t think that really qualifies as a negation, just an example but if someone has immortality type 8 and subsequent type 4 immortality and the thing their type 8 is linked to is a piece of paper that doesn’t mean a random guy who rips up that paper and causes the immortal being to no longer be immortal would have immortality negation types 4 and 8 because being able to rip up paper is something most people can do, I could be wrong but I think that in order to have immortality negation type 8 you’d have to kill someone despite the thing that makes them immortal existing
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The Source, Ellaine Belloc, Lucifer, Michael
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All of those are h1a not h1a+ right now
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The void, Pralaya, presence’s voice
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How can 3 thing can be h1a+? I thought only 2 things can be h1a+, the T1 one and T2 one
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iirc, there can be more than 1 h1a+ type 1 if they are relate
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I’m not an expert on h1a+ but there doesn’t seem to be a problem with there being multiple type 1s since there’s no reason why multiple beings can’t influence all possible worlds, multiple type 2s though probably isn’t possible because there’s only one all possible worlds
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Overvoid is tier 0, This void is high 1-A+, and unless I’m mistaken great darkness just scales to the light of creation which is just normal high 1-A
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After the merge, currently.
Pralaya (True Form): Type 2
Voice/Creator: Type 1
The Light and Great Darkness: High 1-A
Before the merge.
DeMatteis Cosmology -
Pralaya: Both types (Avatar = Type 1, True Form = Type 2)
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Great Darkness: Type 2
Light: Type 1
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Void (?): Type 2
Yahweh: Type 1
This is the most recent thread where everything was decided. https://vsbattles.com/threads/clari...ence-and-the-overvoid-tier-0-proposal.186593/
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Pralaya True Form – High 1-A+, Type 2
The Voice and The Void – High 1-A+ Type 1
Note: A single verse is capable of having multiple High 1-A+ Type 1 characters
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There are no profiles for Arc Angels and Deepchange.
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Shouldn’t source and overvoid have their profiles deleted, because based on what’s currently accepted, source’s first key is the exact same being as presence’s second key and source’s second key is the exact same being as presence’s fourth key, and overvoid is the exact same being as presence’s fourth key, which means that overall source and overvoid are currently accepted as just different names for the presence and alternate names don’t get their own profiles
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I would say no, because the Source, the Overvoid, and the Presence are well-known entities, each having their own characteristics, and keeping their individual profiles would avoid any confusion for newcomers. That's my opinion.
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Plus, they arent the same in description.
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They are the same, but from different perseverance.
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Um no offense but that scan and you’re comment don’t say remotely similar things, did you add the wrong scan by accident or something
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Batman/superman 2019
Shouldn't the auteur.io feat that superman has qualify as countless, more than 1000+ universes feat, 2B?
The movie tapes are accepted as realities so shouldn't superman one tapping the son of the world forger be 2B?
Because there's countless amounts of movie tapes realities that are created by son of world forger who superman one shotted
Shouldn't the auteur.io feat that superman has qualify as countless, more than 1000+ universes feat, 2B?
The movie tapes are accepted as realities so shouldn't superman one tapping the son of the world forger be 2B?
Because there's countless amounts of movie tapes realities that are created by son of world forger who superman one shotted
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You could argue it sure but you could also make a case for plot manip or subjective reality warping tooBatman/superman 2019
Shouldn't the auteur.io feat that superman has qualify as countless, more than 1000+ universes feat, 2B?
The movie tapes are accepted as realities so shouldn't superman one tapping the son of the world forger be 2B?
Because there's countless amounts of movie tapes realities that are created by son of world forger who superman one shotted
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Actually under our standards creating a portal to access a 1-A realm (like a boomtube) is necessarily an instance of a 1-A energy system or an anti-feat.One issue amplifications should not be added according to our rules.
That is a range feat, not physical power, and anybody creating or using a Boom Tube to travel to New Genesis or Apokolips does not use 1-A power either. Not to mention that the writer is virtually guaranteed to not have intended it as anything beyond pushing away a large physical magical object.
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Boom tubes in DC are created through motherboxes that are powered by The Source. Iirc in Kirbys original run for The New Gods boom tubes were stated to be made out of thought
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If these are accepted and listed in darkseid's page
Shouldn't this be type 4 immortality negation for his omega beams and him having resistance towards type 4 immortality negation?
this barbatos feat that is also accepted should also be 2B instead of 2c since billions are a lot more than 1001
Shouldn't this be type 4 immortality negation for his omega beams and him having resistance towards type 4 immortality negation?
this barbatos feat that is also accepted should also be 2B instead of 2c since billions are a lot more than 1001
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For the Darkseid one I think that was DesaadIf these are accepted and listed in darkseid's page
Shouldn't this be type 4 immortality negation for his omega beams and him having resistance towards type 4 immortality negation?
this barbatos feat that is also accepted should also be 2B instead of 2c since billions are a lot more than 1001
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Hmmm I've been thinking about it. Since outerversal is so contested for DC how about I make my own argument for it and present it here to know yalls thoughts?
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All opinions should at least get the chance to be heard if possible in my opinion, so I’m fine with it
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Both of these make senseIf these are accepted and listed in darkseid's page
Shouldn't this be type 4 immortality negation for his omega beams and him having resistance towards type 4 immortality negation?
this barbatos feat that is also accepted should also be 2B instead of 2c since billions are a lot more than 1001
