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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Kachon123 said:
The first two don't seem very impressive, especially for where Genos already scales currently via incineration cannons and boosted attacks (7-A), but I could still calc them for support.

I could do Suiko's feat some time today.
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Hmmm, his blast attacks for Post Elder Centipede are now listed as "Varies, up to small country level with boost attacks". I misread his profile and thought the low 6-B key was tied to ten second mode hah, apparently not. I must have missed yet another CRT upgrading high dragons to low 6-B/6-B via the Psykosjet... I will forgo calculating the incinerate cannon that killed Forest King.

However his physicals are still listed at "at least 7-C, possibly High 7-C". If the dust cloud is close to a kilometer long, perhaps that could give a tier 7 result? I will calc that later, next week maybe.

It would be great if you can calculate the Suiko feat! I feel like it will be 9-A if we count it as pulverizing metal
 
MrTayman616 said:
303.71 Kilotons, up to 607.42 kilotons with Reactive Evolution.
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Ben 10 vs Garou !

Match Rules: Rules as stated in the Tournament. Both are High 7-C Speed will be equalized No Prep Time, Random encounters, No prior knowledge to anybody Both start 60 meters apart from each other. Ben starts as Four arms but can switch to any of his 5 aliens Win Condition: Via Kill only! No BFR...
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Kachon123 said:
No problem, also:


You were right with your guess, both ends are 9-A.
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Thank you, could you please look at my math to see if I am using the form correctly before I update my blog?

Alright, so if I have an explosion radius of 21.5 meters and I start with the rest of the equation... it looks like this:

((27136*1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568-93/13568)^2
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(27136*1.37895+8649) = (46068.1872), then 46068.1872 ^1/2 = 214.6350093, then 214.635009/13568 = 0.0157843072
0.0157843072.- (93/13568) = 0.0157843072 - 0.006839241065 = 0.008945066132^2 = 8.0013025*10^-5

8.0013025*10^-5 is our constant when P (bar) is 1.37895.

Then 8.0013025*10^-5 * 21.5^3 = 0.795 tons of tnt for a 21.5 meter radius explosion, 8-C. Is that right?

If yes, then I just need to find Axel's speed and then we can put our calculations to be evaluated.
 
Ourosboros said:
Then 8.0013025*10^-5 * 21.5^3 = 0.795 tons of tnt for a 21.5 meter radius explosion, 8-C. Is that right?

If yes, then I just need to find Axel's speed and then we can put our calculations to be evaluated.
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Yeah that's right.

Good luck with the speed calc, let me know if you need anything.
 
Ourosboros said:
Here's an outline for what I plan on including in the Mega CRT. Let me know what I'm missing!

NEW NEO-LEADER PROFILES
(1) Blue = 2 keys,
  • base key scaling from his fight with Shell King
  • 'limiter release' key scaling from his fight with Eel Dragon
(2) Webigaza = 1 key, scaling from her fight with the Croco-Demon... and huh, she doesn't really do much till the robot war ig
(3) Raiden = 1 key, suitless mode (other modes will come in a CRT like a year later probably) based on his fight with PPP
(4) Axel = 2 keys, suitless mode and suited mode
  • base key, (unknown, At most 7-C based on defeating an unknown demon with great difficulty?)
  • Modified battle suit key, 7-C (scaling to the Explosive velocity Snail). Speed will be calced based on the 390kmph statement for the snail
(5) Ryumon = unknown physically, at least 9-B with guns (based on defeating triple Tongue
(6) "A" = at least 8-B, likely higher upscaling from standard battle suits, higher with his scythe.

Zaedats and Infelsinave do not need profiles yet.


OTHER NEW PROFILES
(1) Suiko = 2 keys, base and drunken tiger fist
  • base key, based on a calculation of her cutting the training drone in half. It will be treating as a fragmentation of metal calc based on the sheared area accounting for hollowness. I expect a 9-A result
  • Drunken Tiger Fist key, at least 9-A, likely higher, 7-C/ High 7-C with Void Quaking Tiger Fist
(2) Explosive Velocity Snail = a demon level 7-C, I guess I could try to calc the KE of this thing with the speed?
(3) Power Suits = at at least 8-B, upscaling from Great Philosopher
(4) Triple Tongue = at least 9-B, able to defeat Crescent Moon (I forget this guy's name)
(5) Shell King = a demon level, 7-C (upscaling from Lightning Genji/Electric catfish man)
(6) Machine God Mirror = at least 7-C upscaling from G-5 and G-4, likely higher. Energy blasts will be calced if they yield any interesting results.
(7) Heavy Smoker = at least 7-C (upscaling from TTM), likely higher. Hopefully get a calcable feat.
(8) Extended Family of Darkness = at least high 7-C collectively, scaling to Lightning Core Genos. Hopefully get a calcable feat.
(9) Eel Dragon = 7-C or higher (will have calcable feats with his acid melting buildings).
(10) Forte = 9-B (got hit by a car lol)
(11) butterfly Dx = also 9-B but he has limited flight too!
(12) hero Victim names association (maybe?) = I really want to add the Great Degenerate just because they are somewhat relevant for the story, plus he has a funny name and power + looks cool

Aggregration does not need a profile as he isn't going to impact Tatsumaki's scaling lol.



OTHER UPGRADES/CHANGES
(1) Genos = will get a new lightning core key, which hopefully gets a calcable feat. I guess we should calc the dust cloud with his sparring match and how much energy was required to burn the forest king monster?
(2) Job Hunter Garou = based on his performance against Suiryu/based on his statement to Bang that he could reawaken his fist. He doesn't mention fighting Darkshine to reawaken it, so Possibly just spiral garou level
(3) Neo-Leader Suiryu = two new keys, one for his battle suit and one with limiter release.
(4) WILD Emperor = (hopefully still a virgin!, but that old nickname is gone and the teen rebellion has begun) neo leader key
(4) Tanktop Master, maybe = depending on what happens in his fight with Heavy Smoker. Would it be possible to scale him inhaling the smoke? That crap was going to make the entire city toxic and he was going to breath it in.
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for section 6 and 3 regarding A and the power suites

everyone who has the armor should be at least equal to or superior to the great philosopher who is defined as the best fighter I think of the A class so at least he should be superior to Snek and Lightning max and therefore they should be at least 7C right?

For Heavy smoker
If, as in the webcomic, he defends himself from an attack by Flashy, maybe the things could go crazy imo...
 
Raiden38 said:
for section 6 and 3 regarding A and the power suites

everyone who has the armor should be at least equal to or superior to the great philosopher who is defined as the best fighter I think of the A class so at least he should be superior to Snek and Lightning max and therefore they should be at least 7C right?
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I noticed that as I was looking at Great Philosopher just now, it is a bit odd that he's rated as the best physical fighter (meaning hand to hand combat, not including weapons/powers) in the class but he's still two tiers below Lightning Genji, Stinger, etc.

I'm very open to being corrected by more knowledgeable members, as I have not been involved in most major CRTs for at least three years and I find the profiles confusing. I would definitely like for someone who understands all the profiles better to walk me through the tiers. From what I understand...

9-B: most of c class, most of b-class, half of a-class, wolf level threats, tigers
9-A: a couple a-class
8-C: three-eyed ghost... and nobody else maybe?
8-B: Great Philosopher, Sea Folk
8-A: No one???
7-C: a-class, a few tiger level threats, a few demon level threats, weaker dragon level threats
7-B: not sure
7-A: half of the monster association.

While it would be nice to have the threat levels ranging across tiers and gradually escalating in scale (e.g. wolf level threats from 9-B to 9-A), (tiger level threats from 9-A to 8-B), (demon level threats from 8-B to 7-C), (Dragon levels above 7-C)... it feels weird to me that Electric Catfish man, Deep Sea King, Hundred Eyes Octopus and Post Elder Centipede Genos physically are 7-Cs, making them much closer than say, Electric Catfish man and three eyed ghost.

Does anyone else feel like the lower tiers might be quite inflated via crossscaling? Because that's what it feels like to me, but idk maybe I just to lowball more often
Raiden38 said:
For Heavy smoker
If, as in the webcomic, he defends himself from an attack by Flashy, maybe the things could go crazy imo...
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Oh, that is an excellent point. I didn't actually re-read that fight but you're right that he might downscale from his striking strength.
 
Ourosboros said:
I noticed that as I was looking at Great Philosopher just now, it is a bit odd that he's rated as the best physical fighter (meaning hand to hand combat, not including weapons/powers) in the class but he's still two tiers below Lightning Genji, Stinger, etc.
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Great Philosopher got his statement fairly recently, and there haven't been any CRTs for the ongoing arc. With it, he should be physically superior to Snek, who is 7-C.
 
Ourosboros said:
I noticed that as I was looking at Great Philosopher just now, it is a bit odd that he's rated as the best physical fighter (meaning hand to hand combat, not including weapons/powers) in the class but he's still two tiers below Lightning Genji, Stinger, etc.

I'm very open to being corrected by more knowledgeable members, as I have not been involved in most major CRTs for at least three years and I find the profiles confusing. I would definitely like for someone who understands all the profiles better to walk me through the tiers. From what I understand...

9-B: most of c class, most of b-class, half of a-class, wolf level threats, tigers
9-A: a couple a-class
8-C: three-eyed ghost... and nobody else maybe?
8-B: Great Philosopher, Sea Folk
8-A: No one???
7-C: a-class, a few tiger level threats, a few demon level threats, weaker dragon level threats
7-B: not sure
7-A: half of the monster association.

While it would be nice to have the threat levels ranging across tiers and gradually escalating in scale (e.g. wolf level threats from 9-B to 9-A), (tiger level threats from 9-A to 8-B), (demon level threats from 8-B to 7-C), (Dragon levels above 7-C)... it feels weird to me that Electric Catfish man, Deep Sea King, Hundred Eyes Octopus and Post Elder Centipede Genos physically are 7-Cs, making them much closer than say, Electric Catfish man and three eyed ghost.

Does anyone else feel like the lower tiers might be quite inflated via crossscaling? Because that's what it feels like to me, but idk maybe I just to lowball more often

Oh, that is an excellent point. I didn't actually re-read that fight but you're right that he might downscale from his striking strength.
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9-A also Wild horn which is a class B then
8-A hammeredd and co with Power suit
7-B Marugori that despite those feats he hadn't been declared dragon level yet but was still demon level and probably could have become even more destructive without Saitama and Vaccine man

7-A maybe apollo (?) besides only Fuhrer ugly base and Gums so I wouldn't say half of the Monster association is 7A
 
Kachon123 said:
Yeah that's right.

Good luck with the speed calc, let me know if you need anything.
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I was trying to sort it out myself, but I'm trying to use this image to find Axxel's speed, specifically the bottom panel. I know the height of the Snail, (12 meters) and want to find the distance between the snail and Axxel here. It's been about 5 years since I did a calc like this and I forget how to determine the angle

I would just assume Axxel is as tall as an average Japanese man + roller skates to find the height of the barrier to find the height of the camera, but I'm forgetting how to find the angle in order to determine distance. Do you know how to calc the distance/angle if I have this information?

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Once I know the distance, it's simply a matter of assuming a timeframe (I'm thinking 1 sec high end, 3 middle, 5 low) and then adding the distance the snail is travelling to the initial gap to find Axxel's velocity.
 
Quangotjokes said:
Is someone going to call that snail outpacing that explosion?
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I would if Axel didn't say it was going at 390kmph/108 m/s. Since it's a one-off monster and there's nothing contradicting the canon number, we have to go with it (even though it is pretty unimpressive for a demon level).
 
Ourosboros said:
I was trying to sort it out myself, but I'm trying to use this image to find Axxel's speed, specifically the bottom panel. I know the height of the Snail, (12 meters) and want to find the distance between the snail and Axxel here. It's been about 5 years since I did a calc like this and I forget how to determine the angle
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If you want to find the angle, you could use this formula:

2atan(tan(70deg/2) * [x/y]), with x being Axel's height in pixels and y being the panel height in pixels. Plug in Axel's height in meters the angle (degrees) into this calculator to find the distance between him and the POV. Then do the same for the snail, just swapping out Axel's height (pixels and meters) with the snail's height, and subtract the 2 distances to find how far away they were from each other.

You could also skip finding the angle and get distance right away using this formula:

z* y/[x*2*tan(70deg/2)], with x being Axel's height in pixels, y being the panel height in pixels, and z being Axel's height in meters.
 
Kachon123 said:
If you want to find the angle, you could use this formula:

2atan(tan(70deg/2) * [x/y]), with x being Axel's height in pixels and y being the panel height in pixels. Plug in Axel's height in meters the angle (degrees) into this calculator to find the distance between him and the POV. Then do the same for the snail, just swapping out Axel's height (pixels and meters) with the snail's height, and subtract the 2 distances to find how far away they were from each other.

You could also skip finding the angle and get distance right away using this formula:

z* y/[x*2*tan(70deg/2)], with x being Axel's height in pixels, y being the panel height in pixels, and z being Axel's height in meters.
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Excellent, thanks again Kachon
 
Also, I didn't want to say it... but we do just not have a profile for Empty Void because he got off-screened by Saitama and then fought featless divine beasts?
 
but i disagree with the key, it should’ve been

“at least 5-c, far higher. when serious (even while wounded she could instantly overpower psykosorochi once she was fully focused on the fight”


“far higher” is needed to show superiority over psykos, since psykos’ does have it on her profile, for those who doesn’t know it looks like that psykos’ scaling is higher so it does bothers me a bit

or we can just remove “far higher” from psykos and give tatsumaki an “at least 5-c+”
 
Coomandar said:
AT LEAST 5C TATSUMAKI WHAT DID I MISS
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One-Punch Man: Gaia Cannon

Alright, so with One-Punch Man Season 3 having finished airing, the anime ended up adapting the pre-redraw version of Orochi vs Saitama, meaning the Gaia Cannon was not animated. One of the main reasons PE is currently used is that there was no agreed upon timeframe for the feat, so we opted to...
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Hmm, my computer was dead when that CRT happened, dang. Not that I would have opposed the changes, it's just a huge move for the verse- having a new wave of characters in tier 5
 
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