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[Vietthai96]

But the literal previous two sentences talked about how the inheritance of dimensions involves a "give and take"/"trade off".

This makes no sense. So you're saying that the bubble world take away 7 extra dimensions from the SoQ? So what the bubble world give to the SoQ?, this make SoQ turned into a simple 4-dimensional structure

In another scan, it talks about how different worlds have completely independant laws and dimensions

Laws are irrelevant without further contexts, and independent dimensions just mean they are separated; they have their own dimensions that not dependent on anything

Otto right before this talks about how laws are constantly changing for non-stable words.

Laws mean the principles of how thing operate, not really something affect the number of dimension or their size

There is no evidence to suggest that an 11D bubble cannot exist within the sea.

I don't think anyone contest this, except me, I guess, because the game literally have Otto saying the world is 4D space-time and Imaginary Space scan also said the same thing

Anyway, unless something new being brought up, i will agree with Low 1-C for now, though the verse still have 11D extra-dimensional range

Time for me to sleep, it is midnight in my timezone

 

[SuperNova55555]

Nice. 2 more votes and I can get to wiping Immeasurable Speed off the map as well.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I don't think anyone contest this, except me, I guess, because the game literally have Otto saying the world is 4D space-time and Imaginary Space scan also said the same thing

i cant see the scan but the 4D world is literally talking about leaf world and not bubble worlds what does this have to do with soq and bubble worlds, leaf worlds and IT is separate thing here and otto outright calls IT higher dimensional realm so Imaginary space being 4D is nonsense

 

[Mbpoops]

I guess its time to learn chinese

 

[Minophen]

My fault for not including the full sentence. It should be

"we know, that 3 dimensional soap bubbles will form an almost 2 dimension surface; these bubble worlds, compared to all eleven dimensions of the "ether bathtub", all have to make "trade-offs" for iheritance"

For me at least, I understand this as dimensions are curved during the inheritance process.

As for the laws stuff, I brought that up to purely to show that the 4+7 string model wouldn't apply to every world, with the possibility of 5+6 string, 6+5 string, etc. Following that logic, there should exist an 11+0 string world, which would require the SoQ to have 11 non-curved dimensional axis

 

[SuperNova55555]

"we know, that 3 dimensional soap bubbles will form an almost 2 dimension surface; these bubble worlds, compared to all eleven dimensions of the "ether bathtub", all have to make "trade-offs" for iheritance"

What does this genuinely mean

 

[Vietthai96]

i cant see the scan but the 4D world is literally talking about leaf world and not bubble worlds what does this have to do with soq and bubble worlds, leaf worlds and IT is separate thing here and otto outright calls IT higher dimensional realm so Imaginary space being 4D is nonsense

Where did I say IS is 4D?? Also, IIRC Bubble World is literally the reflection of Leaf World on the IT, Leaf World fallen from the Tree down to the Sea also become Bubble World

As for the laws stuff, I brought that up to purely to show that the 4+7 string model wouldn't apply to every world, with the possibility of 5+6 string, 6+5 string, etc. Following that logic, there should exist an 11+0 string world, which would require the SoQ to have 11 non-curved dimensional axis

Again, no offense, nice fanfiction though

 

[StrymULTRA]

Maybe @StrymULTRA has some thought on this. He also seems quite knowledgeable on the physics here

Idrc about the verse ngl, I just am giving my piece from what I am seeing.

Would these not qualify?

"11-D Space" is like super vague and does not defeat the interpretation of 11D strings with 5D Bulk.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Where did I say IS is 4D?? Also, IIRC Bubble World is literally the reflection of Leaf World on the IT, Leaf World fallen from the Tree down to the Sea also become Bubble World



Again, no offense, nice fanfiction though

Before u go, can u tag sum mods?

 

[The_King_of_Prudence]

Ok bro I wrote that part quickly. But u get the intent

Being equal to something is fair, but being bon from it would lead to weirdness like every Pokemon scaling to Mew.

Also, don't the games have a bunch of 3D tier 1s anyway?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Before u go, can u tag sum mods?

Imma be fr, barely 20 hours and we already have 11 pages.

Isn't it better to make a staff thread while closing this (taking in the current votes ofc)?

 

[SuperNova55555]

Isn't it better to make a staff thread while closing this (taking in the current votes ofc)?

I think so too.

 

[Vietthai96]

Before u go, can u tag sum mods?

@Qawsedf234 @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless @ActuallySpaceMan42 @FinePoint @Reiner04

 

[Minophen]

I think so too.

And please for the love of god get a translator.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Where did I say IS is 4D??

im out of meds sry

Also, IIRC Bubble World is literally the reflection of Leaf World on the IT, Leaf World fallen from the Tree down to the Sea also become Bubble World

doesnt matter when they inherit the dimensions from soq at the end of the day

Where did I say IS is 4D?? Also, IIRC Bubble World is literally the reflection of Leaf World on the IT, Leaf World fallen from the Tree down to the Sea also become Bubble World



Again, no offense, nice fanfiction though

you should at least debunk it with a source instead of calling it fan fiction what is with all of you today going “negative tracking negative reading nice headcannon etc” its no wonder we got 10 pages now

 

[StrymULTRA]

@Qawsedf234 @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless @ActuallySpaceMan42 @FinePoint @Reiner04

Isn't it better to make a staff thread while closing this (taking in the current votes ofc)?

I wonder if it's possible to do that ngl.

 

[SuperNova55555]

I wonder if it's possible to do that ngl.

Pretty sure it’s been done before.

And please for the love of god get a translator.

Let’s pray to Xi Jinping to transmigrate us a chinaman

 

[StrymULTRA]

Pretty sure it’s been done before.

I talk if it's possible to do here.

 

[AyOgUyS]

wat happened

 

[Qawsedf234]

@Qawsedf234 @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless @ActuallySpaceMan42 @FinePoint @Reiner04

I was against the Low 1-A rating before and my viewpoint hasn't shifted. I don't view Imaginary Space as a valid justification for Low 1-A and I agree with the proposal by the OP.

 

[Minophen]

Let’s pray to Xi Jinping to transmigrate us a chinaman

Glorius CCP please send us FanChuan so he can just tell us what the hell they're talking about

 

[Vietthai96]

doesnt matter when they inherit the dimensions from soq at the end of the day

Bro, the IS scan literally contradict Bubble World being 11D. You are hand-waving away contradictory evidence but I don't think this is that relevant

you should at least debunk it with a source instead of calling it fan fiction what is with all of you today going “negative tracking negative reading nice headcannon etc” its no wonder we got 10 pages now

The fanfiction stuff is a light joke, but on a serious note, why do I need to debunk an argument that is literally backed by nothing?. He made an extraordinary claim about different worlds having different dimensional setups; he need evidence to back it up, not me debunk it

As for the laws stuff, I brought that up to purely to show that the 4+7 string model wouldn't apply to every world, with the possibility of 5+6 string, 6+5 string, etc. Following that logic, there should exist an 11+0 string world, which would require the SoQ to have 11 non-curved dimensional axis

I was against the Low 1-A rating before and my viewpoint hasn't shifted. I don't view Imaginary Space as a valid justification for Low 1-A and I agree with the proposal by the OP.

this is so fast

I wonder if it's possible to do that ngl.

i don't think we need to, unless people start spamming nonsensical thing that not related to the thread

Anyway sleep, bye

 

[Furina003]

seems to have 3 staff votes already, Does this mean that this crt has been approved?

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Bro, the IS scan literally contradict Bubble World being 11D. You are hand-waving away contradictory evidence but I don't think this is that relevant

mf leaf world falls into soq and inherits dimensions from it whats so difficult to understand

 

[StrymULTRA]

seems to have 3 staff votes already, Does this mean that this crt has been approved?

It's a jump from Low 1-A to Low 1-C, so I dunno.

I'd prefer if the staff voice on what they prefer between 2-C and Low 1-C before proceeding.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Zeno vs Nanook gonna be legendary

seems to have 3 staff votes already, Does this mean that this crt has been approved?

Needs 1 more iirc

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Is this the fastest accepted Honkai CRT ever.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Is this the fastest accepted Honkai CRT ever.

This is like the total opposite of CM1 bro

 

[Minophen]

The fanfiction stuff is a light joke, but on a serious note, why do I need to debunk an argument that is literally backed by nothing?. He made an extraordinary claim about different worlds having different dimensional setups; he need evidence to back it up, not me debunk it

here

pretty blatantly states different worlds have different dimensionalities

 

[Qawsedf234]

prefer if the staff voice on what they prefer between 2-C and Low 1-C before proceeding.

The dimensions from the game are standard M-Theory which is Tier 2. The Manwa/Comic gives a debatable dimensional difference, so it's probably a 5D membrane with 6 compacted string dimensions. So Low 1-C if you scale to the entire thing.

this is so fast

???

 

[StrymULTRA]

The dimensions from the game are standard M-Theory which is Tier 2.

I thought that the Imaginary Tree already qualifies for the 5D Bulk though?

 

[SuperNova55555]

I thought that the Imaginary Tree already qualifies for the 5D Bulk though?

He’s saying M-Theory in general is tier 2.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

I thought that the Imaginary Tree already qualifies for the 5D Bulk though?

No everything related to brane cosmology m
theory and 4+7D comes from SoQ
Imaginary tree has none of that mention unless u can give it via being born from sea of quanta but HSR calls IT “unrivaled” lol

 

[SuperNova55555]

No everything related to brane cosmology m
theory and 4+7D comes from SoQ
Imaginary tree has none of that mention unless u can give it via being born from sea of quanta but HSR calls IT “unrivaled” lol

IT has +1D through Welt statement. SoQ kinda gets it due to 5D bulks being the standard

 

[PedjaTarzan]

IT has +1D through Welt statement. SoQ kinda gets it due to 5D bulks being the standard

I linked very early into thread (or in hsr disc i forgot) that IT and SoQ both cannot be explained as mere 4D constructs and IT is outright called higher dimensional in comparasion to 4D space times (leaf worlds) so its 5D trough that then it can be 6D via +1D from welt

 

[SuperNova55555]

I linked very early into thread (or in hsr disc i forgot) that IT and SoQ both cannot be explained as mere 4D constructs and IT is outright called higher dimensional in comparasion to 4D space times (leaf worlds) so its 5D trough that then it can be 6D via +1D from welt

Why can't it be described by that because it's higher dimensional by Welt's statement? What's the reason for separating the two.

Not like, ya know, that isn't explained by the 5D bulk. I already said this to you multiple times in the thread, but whatever

 

[Qawsedf234]

I thought that the Imaginary Tree already qualifies for the 5D Bulk though?

it's probably a 5D membrane with 6 compacted string dimensions. So Low 1-C if you scale to the entire thing.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Why can't it be described by that because it's higher dimensional by Welt's statement?

Welt does not mention that wth?

 

[SuperNova55555]

Welt does not mention that wth?

Welt statement is short for the alien key stuff. If we know an R>F dimension exists for IT, then that same dimension can be sufficient to explain the need of higher-dimensional math. Not that, you know, string theory can't do the same.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Btw can Planck be tagged again? Cuz I he technically didn't give a "full" vote.