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Removing CM1 from Aeons (Honkai: Star Rail)
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Bump (guess I’ll go and finish 3.7 now but I heavily doubt it’ll change anything in regards to the CRT)
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No need to bump right after I did (it’s against the rules as well).Bump
Anyways, I got pretty far into 3.7 and at the part I’m at there’s actually something that helps my case instead lol:
Nous (as in, literally Nous themselves) talks to us and tells us that not just Aeons, but Paths themselves must have been destroyed
So, alongside what I’ve already said, there’s even less credibility to the claim that paths are immutable and eternal.
So, alongside what I’ve already said, there’s even less credibility to the claim that paths are immutable and eternal.
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Someone give him an answer already
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Might as well bump ts
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Its clearly said that the Imaginary Tree is a higher-dimensional concept and it governs everything in the universe. Aeons are aggregations of Imaginary concepts. You also haven't mentioned souls consisting of stigma spaces, which are already type 1 concepts. Anyone who can affect souls in Honkai will get cm1.
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This has all been addressed a dozen times over. Please read the summaries before commenting, at least.
Let’s downgrade that too, shall we?
But in seriousness, that’s just blatant IM2. Literally nothing there has anything to do with CM1. You can have Imaginary Energy be layered into IM2 if you want, tho. Not opposed to that at all.
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Stigma are type 1 concepts and souls make up stigma space.
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I believe that has also been addressed.
Also, since this thread is so deep, I’d recommend you always reply with scans/arguments because we’re effectively reviewing all of it—from Paths, to Authority of Finality, to any single mention of concept.
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super nova going lowkey madara vs 5 kage on hsr
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I don't think the word concept needs to be mentioned for cm to qualify
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That is true. But the supporters seem to think so for some reason, so we had to go through everything.
Crazy glaze bro
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can someone help the OP out, almost a month by now
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I’ve messaged mods a couple of time nows in their walls. Ppl like Vietthai said they would eventually check it out but it js seems like they got caught up in that genshin fiasco (tho, I’m a bit to blame for that admittedly)
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the way i could glaze my king phainon and zephyro would get me eviscerated from this website bro
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next ver we going up to high outer frfr
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Keep in mind that the only way this verse can possibly get CM1 is if we severely lower the standards because it’s “below Low 1-A”
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HSR would need an akuto sai type shit to get to 1a againKeep in mind that the only way this verse can possibly get CM1 is if we severely lower the standards because it’s “below Low 1-A”
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You could have not possibly picked a funniest example because Akuto is genuinely going to be downgraded below 1-A in a little bit lmao. Both High 1-A+ and High 1-B have already been removed within the last month too
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Akuto still is at H1A, his base form is like fodder but ascended is 1A. also half of the cast recived a 1A, u have mfs going from town to outer on that verse
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Peep the “going to be downgraded” bud.
Also that’s not even that impressive lel. Plenty of verses have 1-A normal humans
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they already did, H1A is still fine for like the god tier chad akuto sai. Also like I agree but its like over 8 normal fodders
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Nono, there’s gonna be a 3rd downgrade that puts H1A below 1A. Only TLOI will be base 1A from what I’m aware
Anyways, lets not derail this thread more than necessary
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3rd is fighting for its life rn, probably will stay the same H1A.
Edit. OP said The Law of Identity scales above the Anti-Universe, so it would be an additional layer (not a meta-layer) beyond baseline High 1-A. so like gonna stay there probably
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I am confused on what you mean here. Are you saying the future downgrade is being debated in the background rn or sum?
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iirc yeah, probaby wont be below H1A but who knows. anyways this shi never getting accepted bruh
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Welcome to vswiki where CRT tends to get railed for ends and months even years before being evaluated
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True but i feel like that the same for most wikis
atleast its not nasuverse with its complexity of what the crap is going on and even if you understand it its still make no sense lol but anyway tbh i'm Don't agree with op like most cm1 should stay but if mods say otherwise well then that be the case but wont be surprising though if it does happen and its going be accepted i wont be suprise if debunk this happens and just become cm1 then and all verse to tree goes to low 1a... but pretty sure cm1 will keep and if not will come back
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I cannot find op rebuttal for project stigma being type 1 concept. The scans posted on op in the first floor of thread is linking to a scan referring to stigmas being imaginary. But there is a scan on Hoyoverse page that says the Imaginary Tree is a higher-dimensional concept. If you want downgrade Aeons then you have to downgrade imaginary but there is a scan that says imaginary is a higher-dimensional concept and governs everything in hoyoverse cosmology which is type 1. Also the project stigma part where stigmas being a fundamental unit of reality, which you have not addressed.
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Maybe I missed it somehow? Can you like link the argument then rq and I’ll respond in a little while.
I’m not sure what Imaginary Tree being a concept has much to do with anything tho; fundamental substances can be abstract (I believe I was already fine with this), tho it doesn’t add much to it being a universal (which you should know since you also agree that being a concept doesn’t mean much for CM1). Unless you’re trying to argue Space-Time itself is a universal? Anyhow, I can also see that statement being read in a much more flowery sense, in the same way the “different concept of time” can be read as well.
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Also, um, “higher-dimensional” is inherently a really strange word because it implies that the concept (what-it-is) itself is in possession of accidental qualities that participate in it; that is, that it is grounded by what it is supposed to ground.
That’s a bit of a long-winded explanation but, basically, the universal of space can’t be spatial (literally exist in space) because then it is contingent on what it grounds, which is inherently a disqualifier for CM1. In the same manner, the universal of dimensions can’t literally be a dimensional construct because it is then contingent on dimensions.
Thooo, tbf this might not really be a problem for CM1 below Low 1-A, but it still stands that it proves nothing for CM1 to begin with.
That’s a bit of a long-winded explanation but, basically, the universal of space can’t be spatial (literally exist in space) because then it is contingent on what it grounds, which is inherently a disqualifier for CM1. In the same manner, the universal of dimensions can’t literally be a dimensional construct because it is then contingent on dimensions.
Thooo, tbf this might not really be a problem for CM1 below Low 1-A, but it still stands that it proves nothing for CM1 to begin with.
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