For some reason I don’t trust this interpretation. Also, you can have IM2 for CM3. It sounds weird but there’s no issue here because IM2 is absurdly broad. It can have CM3 in an indirect sense though.
That’s not CM1. At all.
You can’t manipulate a Pathway’s concepts without the Authority or Symbolism.
All Imaginary Energy is CM1.
Yes. Concept 1 NPI, but not straight-up CM1.
No one really asked for your own personal opinion that is only comprehensive within your own personal perspective.
Energy too, since both of them are quantities, while universals are qualities.No but CM1 atoms is genuinely FRYING me
It’s the fact they’d rather pivot to CM1 atoms than just saying it for what it is—IM2. Mind you, they actively use this “CM1” as TNT.
Being energy isn't really an anti-feat, unless it is actual physical energy. It is entirely depends on how the verse portrays it
There are scans on cosmology page that says it is a non-existent domain without any real meaning.
Undimensioned domain???, oke, no more 1-B i guess. Idk how this is relevant to the discussion
1-B defines a structure that is equivalent to a 12-D to N-D universe. That does not mean it needs to strictly mean a 12-D to N-D physical space-time itself. As for how what I said is relevant to the discussion, you said that the Imaginary Tree isn't a conceptual domain, but Imaginary Space is fundamentally non-existent, and it does not contain any space nor time.
I still don't see how this relevant to the discussion, you claimed it is a conceptual domain, now it is a nonexistent domain and it does not contain any space nor time, mean it is undimensioned (don't have any dimensions at all), but currently it is 12-D mean it must have dimensions. Do you see how contradictory your claims is?. Nonexistent have nothing to do with concept, and it being nonexistent contradicting the current 12-D rating it have
The writers themselves putted statements that it does not contain space nor time, a domain devoid without any meaning. Its abstract, non-existent from reality, and governs everything, then that is enough to be a type 1 concept. The Imaginary Tree is 12-D in-nature but that doesn't mean it needs to have space and time. Just like how the World of Void in Dragon Ball is still 5-D in nature but it doesn't have space nor time either.
Honestly Idk how you reconcile this for CM1 without a shittload of context to make it some extraordinarily esoteric form of “energy” (which wouldn’t even be energy in any proper sense).
Fictional energy goes bruhhhhhhh. But anyway sure i guess, though i disagree with the notion that seeing the name energy drop automatically make it an anti-feat against concept, still really depends on context
WoV isn't 5D, it is Undimensioned, untiered
I was never against Imaginary Energy being CM1 cuz of its name…. But it literally acts like energy, in every way energy acts like energy lol. The Astral Express literally uses the Path Energy for fuel
The Astral Express literally uses the Path Energy for fuel
It’s why they move so much because they gain energy through trailblazing
So assume this go through, what will get affected by this thread?, because from what i see Imaginary Energy is CM1 and there is Soul being CM1 too with different reason if i'm not wrong
Probably nothing, because the CM1 for Imaginary Energy is through the Imaginary concept in the first place
Well anything that is derived from Imaginary Energy will get downgraded to CM3. Souls have even less proof for CM1 and I believe I already mentioned why it’s not. (Hint: It’s quite literally IM2, like, it specifically states it as “containing information” as well)
This hypothetical “Imaginary Universal” is what I’ve been debunking the whole thread mannnn.
I explained it here with the entire Kiana & Sirin stuff but everyone just ignores that lol
Imaginary Energy is universal, there's no reason for it to be CM3 when it's literally more fundamental than whatever concepts that's perceived by the Erudition that's already a type 2 concept on its own since matter makes up reality. I'd say a higher degree of CM2
How the hell is the Imaginary not universal but Genshin one is somehow universal when you know, Genshin takes place in the Imaginary Tree lol
this is literally a physical energy bro, how can it use conceptual as fuel? , In my opinion, it seems we should differentiate between the path concept and path energy, so not all path users will get CM1The Astral Express literally uses the Path Energy for fuel
I’m on record MULTIPLE times saying I disagree with genshin CM bro. But if you genuinely want to upscale everyone to CM2 through Genshin you’re more than welcome cuz I ain’t touching that shithole
Path Energy isn't even physical, we all know it's metaphysical in nature c'mon
Alright fine by me bro, Ena's law is universal anyway so I'll scale it off that since Phanes one is universal and that's how it got accepted
NAAAH PATH ENERGY IS PHYSICAL TRUST!!
Universal mean the whole of something, the leyline being conceptual and affect the entirety of Genshin world make it Universal within Genshin world.
this one literally sums up the IMG energy=phyiscal energy shit
This is Imaginary Energy fighting Imaginary Energy.
Leylines merely transport information and elements (which are the actual building blocks). It’s a CM3 pathway that specifically transports IM2. I will never agree on CM2 for this, even “limited”
Yeah but a quick look at the Imaginary would tell you already that the Imaginary shapes and makes up everything in Honkaiverse
If imaginary grounding all existence across Imaginary Space-->Tree--->Sea of Quanta is not enough for literally this quote of CM1 then might as well completely remove this requirement for cm1, literaly.
That’s for concepts (singular), Imaginary Energy is a quantity of a certain substance. Please do read what the other parts of that description says; you can’t prove something with a half-assed defintion
I didnt even mention imaginary energy here, just imaginary itself lmao. read the blog dude
There is no distinction between “Imaginary” and “Imaginary Energy”. Philosophical Concept = Path = Path Energy = Imaginary Energy = “this part of the Imaginary” (going from Welt’s statement)
Its literally here, From imaginary itsef we got its energy, paths, aeons, IT, SoQ, civilizations, literally everything in the verse
