Wuthering Waves Low 1-C Verse Proposal

[Apotheosis69]

How many Universes is it?

 

[Weaver261]

How many Universes is it?

countless timelines with their own space times.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

This ain't age manipulation dawg

Age Manipulation (Despite living for thousand of years, they don't age)

 

[Bsk_lyree]

it if the scaling is accepted.

Overall it's pretty good

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

We can settle for 2-B cosmology at this time. I have updated Rover's profile with scans. I would like to publish it if the scaling is accepted.

Weaver261/Rover

vsbattles.fandom.com

• AP justification doesn't make sense. Jue scan is not talking changing the universe in a sense he is using AP to do it. It's Talking about using his power to see the future and change it. So Low 2-C rating doesn't work here
• Speed needs to be calculated. Not just listing she can dodge bullets so hypersonic ratings works here.
• Also Make a blog for Cosmology.
• Jue Sonoro Sphere we don't know who created it since it holds the past Jue himself. Which is Prime Version of his. So for now stop using that to scale him.

Also stop rushing to publish the profile. You can discuss this in discussion page. Like above others said there are Abilities which are listed in your Sandbox which doesn't make sense.

 

[Weaver261]

AP justification doesn't make sense. Jue scan is not talking changing the universe in a sense he is using AP to do it. It's Talking about using his power to see the future and change it. So Low 2-C rating doesn't work here

Ummm..... Temporal program is capable of manipulating time as they want. Not only capable of stopping, accelerating and deaccelerating, Jue is also capable making changes in history affecting entire universe.
In this context C-001 is Jue.

during its prime, C-001 had the capability to manipulate time by decelerating or even halting it, rewinding it, and making corrections as needed

Jue's temporal disruption can make time itself ceases to exist.

What would happen to them?
"Jué": Jinzhou shall forever remain frozen in time. The past and the future meld into one, rendering life indistinguishable from death. The ceremonial rituals and endless battles persist, intertwining joy and sorrow into an eternal blur.
"Jué": All inhabitants of Jinzhou shall endure this perpetual fate until time itself ceases to exist.

Speed needs to be calculated. Not just listing she can dodge bullets so hypersonic ratings works here.

I thought Changli hypersonic was already accepted since they are talking about changing super sonice to hyper sonic in discussion page. We can wait for calcs to be accepted.

Also Make a blog for Cosmology.

We already have a blog. But I will improve it later. Profile publishing doesn't rly need cosmology blog yet.

Jue Sonoro Sphere we don't know who created it since it holds the past Jue himself. Which is Prime Version of his. So for now stop using that to scale him.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

Also stop rushing to publish the profile. You can discuss this in discussion page. Like above others said there are Abilities which are listed in your Sandbox which doesn't make sense.

We are not rushing. I've already discussed with those who will be making profiles and pages together with me.

This ain't age manipulation dawg

Age Manipulation (Despite living for thousand of years, they don't age)

Rover is using Spectro element to slow down his aging

Cantarella: As the head of Fisalia, I must offer you a fitting reward for all the efforts you made.
Cantarella: An elixir for eternal youth, perhaps? No, judging from the power of your Awakening, it seems you may already possess that.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Rover is using Spectro element to slow down his aging

Literally nothing on the profile point towards that

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Ummm..... Temporal program is capable of manipulating time as they want. Not only capable of stopping, accelerating and deaccelerating, Jue is also capable making changes in history affecting entire universe.
In this context C-001 is Jue.

We don't scale characters to tier 2 because they can manipulate time. None of what you listed shows anything about AP.

Jue's temporal disruption can make time itself ceases to exist.

It's not saying Jue is making Time itself doesn't exist. It's Type 2 Conceptual manipulation.

I thought Changli hypersonic was already accepted since they are talking about changing super sonice to hyper sonic in discussion page. We can wait for calcs to be accepted.

I was the one who was discussing the speed in discussion thread and yes it needs a blog and gets accepted by CGM

We already have a blog. But I will improve it later. Profile publishing doesn't rly need cosmology blog yet.

It's preferable.

I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

How that scales to any AP & durability you haven't explained it.

We are not rushing. I've already discussed with those who will be making profiles and pages together with me.

Mind telling me who you discussed this with? I don't remember you talking to anyone other than Dao and me in the discussion thread. It's good that you're working on the verse, but I suggest you don't rush, as adding missing abilities later can be really annoying and create new thread and calling staffs to accept that. When verse is not popular in the site. It's better to discuss and create a complete profile before publishing it. For example, your sandbox even lacks proper IQ justification and explanation you can add so much more.

 

[BreezeHM]

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[Bsk_lyree]

Jue Sonoro Sphere we don't know who created it since it holds the past Jue himself. Which is Prime Version of his. So for now stop using that to scale him.

Isn't that stated directly in the description?
It is said that the sonoro sphear was made/created by Jue himself. Rover also made its own sonoro sphere (changli quest)

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Isn't that stated directly in the description?
It is said that the sonoro sphear was made/created by Jue himself.

Can you share the scan might have forgotten or missed.

Rover also made its own sonoro sphere (changli quest)

Haven't played the companion quests yet. Only completed main quest.
Also the main issue here is you still need to prove why it's AP and Durability not just creation feat.

 

[Bsk_lyree]

Can you share the scan might have forgotten or missed.

Scene (narrative) rover creates sonoro sphere:

Gyazo

gyazo.com

Scene rover controls sonoro sphere even creates its own scenario:

Gyazo

gyazo.com

 

[Bsk_lyree]

Can you share the scan might have forgotten or missed.

You can see it when you want to enter the Sonoro sphere "temporal loop" there it says "created by sentinel jue"

If you are too lazy to log in, you can check the wiki or the official website.

 

[Furina003]

You can see it when you want to enter the Sonoro sphere "temporal loop" there it says "created by sentinel jue"

If you are too lazy to log in, you can check the wiki or the official website.

i think, timeloop will not get anything except time manipulation, he did not create l2c structure but only created time loop,
can creating a time dimension increase attack potency? in my opinion, no. creating a time dimension is just a concept manipulation, unless it is proven that the character creates spacetime with an l2c structure (xyz + t) then he will get tier l2c, and what I see is no evidence that refers to it, moreover all the things discussed only refer to cosmology, so for now I disagree with everything related to character tier 2

 

[Bsk_lyree]

i think, timeloop will not get anything except time manipulation, he did not create l2c structure but only created time loop

Nah, Temporal loop is just a name because the contents of Jue's sonoro sphere are the formation of reality and are repeated continuously.
Each sonoro sphere has its own name and Jue sonoro sphere is called "temporal loop"

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Scene (narrative) rover creates sonoro sphere:

Gyazo

gyazo.com

Scene rover controls sonoro sphere even creates its own scenario:

Gyazo

gyazo.com

Sure so it's possible creation feat by Rover Prime version

You can see it when you want to enter the Sonoro sphere "temporal loop" there it says "created by sentinel jue"

If you are too lazy to log in, you can check the wiki or the official website.

Burden is on you to send the scan. It's not me or others need to do the heavy lifting. Either send the scan or whatever you are claiming without proof is considered as burden of proof on your end. You are the one who needs to prove whatever you made claim for.

 

[Bsk_lyree]

Burden is on you to send the scan. It's not me or others need to do the heavy lifting. Either send the scan or whatever you are claiming without proof is considered as burden of proof on your end. You are the one who needs to prove whatever you made claim for.

In game: https://gyazo.com/5c9330b6df649961672221b93201a227

Official website:

Gyazo

gyazo.com

Wutherium Geographic: Lands and Waters — Huanglong: Jinzhou — Mt. Firmament -Wuthering Waves Official Website https://share.google/Dos2k7PJAGoffCFNk

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

In game: https://gyazo.com/5c9330b6df649961672221b93201a227

Official website:

Gyazo

gyazo.com

Wutherium Geographic: Lands and Waters — Huanglong: Jinzhou — Mt. Firmament -Wuthering Waves Official Website https://share.google/Dos2k7PJAGoffCFNk

Ok I agree with the creation feat then

Now it's all comes to why it also falls for durability.

 

[Furina003]

Nah, Temporal loop is just a name because the contents of Jue's sonoro sphere are the formation of reality and are repeated continuously.
Each sonoro sphere has its own name and Jue sonoro sphere is called "temporal loop"

Timeloop does repeat reality, there is no attack potential, this is just time manipulation

 

[Bsk_lyree]

Now it's all comes to why it also falls for durability.

I haven’t focused much on Jué’s durability specifically, but it’s clear that his durability should at least be on par with his attack potency. During the Mt. Firmament incident, Jué fought against an unknown foreign entity that severely wounded him. Even after that, he was intercepted by two powerful Fracsidus: Phrolova and Cristoforo. The latter is capable of manipulating narrative structure itself which is not something to be underestimated or ignored.

Despite all these consecutive encounters, Jué still has to compare against Jinhsi during the Second Awakening sequence. Notably, he gave away his remaining power to Jinhsi, and yet he continued to exist afterward. That alone supports a minimum durability at least 3A (?), as he tanked multiple high-level threats and retained existence even in a weakened state.

Additionally, Jué holds absolute authority over his own Sonoro Sphere the Temporal Loop, a realm beyond time and space that encapsulates all temporal states (past, present, and future).

 

[Bsk_lyree]

Timeloop does repeat reality, there is no attack potential, this is just time manipulation

You misunderstood
'Temporal Loop' is simply the name of Jué's Sonoro Sphere it symbolizes his authority over the beginning and end of time in a non-linear manner. It's not just a basic time loop mechanic.

And about AP you're wrong again. The Attack Potency doesn't come from the looping effect, but from the fact that Jué created a transdimensional space (the Sonoro Sphere) that exists beyond time and space. Creating a realm like that, containing distorted reality and nonlinear time, clearly qualifies as an AP feat (at least Low 2-C), not just time manipulation

 

[Furina003]

You misunderstood
'Temporal Loop' is simply the name of Jué's Sonoro Sphere it symbolizes his authority over the beginning and end of time in a non-linear manner. It's not just a basic time loop mechanic.

And about AP you're wrong again. The Attack Potency doesn't come from the looping effect, but from the fact that Jué created a transdimensional space (the Sonoro Sphere) that exists beyond time and space. Creating a realm like that, containing distorted reality and nonlinear time, clearly qualifies as an AP feat (at least Low 2-C), not just time manipulation

no, creating a distorted spacetime doesn't guarantee it's l2c, try giving me a full scan. I'm curious how this scales to attack potential

 

[Bsk_lyree]

no, creating a distorted spacetime doesn't guarantee it's l2c, try giving me a full scan. I'm curious how this scales to attack potential

Jué holds full authority within his own Sonoro Sphere, including complete control over time and its internal reality.
You asked for direct AP feats the only reason we don't have a full showcase of Jué's AP is because the lore deliberately limits he from ever appearing in his complete form. All of his appearances are either weakened or fragmented.
However, several official descriptions clearly imply that Jué operates on at least a universal scale, higher

Jué generate sonoro sphere:

Gyazo

gyazo.com

And this one:

Gyazo

gyazo.com

(You might not accept this one, which is fine it’s just an additional supporting piece.)

 

[Furina003]

Jué holds full authority within his own Sonoro Sphere, including complete control over time and its internal reality.
You asked for direct AP feats the only reason we don't have a full showcase of Jué's AP is because the lore deliberately limits he from ever appearing in his complete form. All of his appearances are either weakened or fragmented.
However, several official descriptions clearly imply that Jué operates on at least a universal scale, higher

as i thought before jue is just a time controller, he doesn't create a new reality on the l2c scale, sonoro sphere is just a space filled with sisa energy and distorted information, this is just a pocket dimension, if genshin is similar to the adeptus realm, which is a different realm from the real world which is full of adeptus energy. this is not convincing, so for now i disagree for the l2c tier

 

[Weaver261]

which is a different realm from the real world which is full of adeptus energy. this is not convincing, so for now i disagree for the l2c tier

Genshin adeptus energy isn't transdimensional. Meanwhile Remnant energy operates on countless universes and dimensions and exists beyond space and time. I will just note down your disagree.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

as i thought before jue is just a time controller, he doesn't create a new reality on the l2c scale, sonoro sphere is just a space filled with sisa energy and distorted information, this is just a pocket dimension, if genshin is similar to the adeptus realm, which is a different realm from the real world which is full of adeptus energy. this is not convincing, so for now i disagree for the l2c tier

2-B to 2-A for Jue Sonoro Sphere works since it contains all of time within it. Only thing that left to do is working on durability and other stuff

I haven’t focused much on Jué’s durability specifically, but it’s clear that his durability should at least be on par with his attack potency. During the Mt. Firmament incident, Jué fought against an unknown foreign entity that severely wounded him. Even after that, he was intercepted by two powerful Fracsidus: Phrolova and Cristoforo. The latter is capable of manipulating narrative structure itself which is not something to be underestimated or ignored.

Despite all these consecutive encounters, Jué still has to compare against Jinhsi during the Second Awakening sequence. Notably, he gave away his remaining power to Jinhsi, and yet he continued to exist afterward. That alone supports a minimum durability at least 3A (?), as he tanked multiple high-level threats and retained existence even in a weakened state.

Additionally, Jué holds absolute authority over his own Sonoro Sphere the Temporal Loop, a realm beyond time and space that encapsulates all temporal states (past, present, and future).

none of them has any feats for 3-A AP so Jue fighting them means nothing here.
You should probably look for stuff where other characters displayed something about AP & durability being of same.

 

[Bsk_lyree]

as i thought before jue is just a time controller, he doesn't create a new reality on the l2c scale, sonoro sphere is just a space filled with sisa energy and distorted information, this is just a pocket dimension, if genshin is similar to the adeptus realm, which is a different realm from the real world which is full of adeptus energy. this is not convincing, so for now i disagree for the l2c tier

There’s a difference while the Sonoro Sphere stores memories, it also reconstructs events depending on the amount of temporal data. In Jiyan companion quest, for example, it reconstructed the old Jinzhou, and leaks suggest a future Sonoro Sphere containing a galactic system (Iuno sonoro sphear).
And you said Jué only controls time? He has full authority over his Sonoro Sphere. What do you think that means? Rebuilding reality? Altering physical laws?
Either way, I won’t force you to agree. You’re free to think otherwise

 

[Bsk_lyree]

none of them has any feats for 3-A AP so Jue fighting them means nothing here.
You should probably look for stuff where other characters displayed something about AP & durability being of same.

Yeah, I don't have a problem with that, it's true that the durability is still unknown. perhaps as an entity that has authority over the fundamentals of time, it could be more.
Yeah.. at this time we can only wait for next lore

 

[Furina003]

What do you think that means? Rebuilding reality? Altering physical laws?

that just poket dimension

Either way, I won’t force you to agree. You’re free to think otherwise

ok, I won't comment further, because it will just go round in circles and make the CRT difficult to evaluate

 

[Bsk_lyree]

ok, I won't comment further, because it will just go round in circles and make the CRT difficult to evaluate

You are right

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yeah, I don't have a problem with that, it's true that the durability is still unknown. perhaps as an entity that has authority over the fundamentals of time, it could be more.
Yeah.. at this time we can only wait for next lore

I think we can work around durability with an example like Scar, where destroying his pocket dimension directly affected him.

Fortes originate from the mental landscape and are powered by mental energy, right?

Jue storing all that energy in his body without breaking it seems like a good feat—especially since Jinshi’s hand started collapsing from just that much energy, and she needed her second awakening to control it.

Rover was able to take the power from Jue and transfer it to Jinshi, while Abby stated that his storage was almost full when he was absorbing energy in the Inverted Tower. So Leviathan and Imperator might scale above Jue.

Someone should make a list of feats and statements for these things. We might be able to scale others based on that.

Current Rover after Flueredys fight, Jue, imperator, Flueredys & Second Awakening Jinshi are the only one who actually scales to the sonoro sphere.

 

[Bsk_lyree]

Jue storing all that energy in his body without breaking it seems like a good feat—especially since Jinshi’s hand started collapsing from just that much energy, and she needed her second awakening to control it.

Makes sense

 

[Omazio2019]

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Also Dreamless did yapping something endless/infinite possibilities record though I don't know if it has any relation to multiverse possibilities.

 

[Shiraito983]

bump bump

 

[Hayato5652]

Bump?

 

[Orbius]

Bump

 

[Shiraito983]

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[Hayato5652]

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[IStar0thh]

Bump bump

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

There's an CRT for creating the verses page and approved the physiology first, should this thread need to be on hold?