Deltarune Chapters 3 & 4: Major Upgrades

[Monsters_fight]

Attack Potency upgrades:

So this new calc came out and the energy per second end should work ending was approved, meaning we get Building level+ Deltarune (1.11 Tons of TNT).

Who scales to this?
The main cast of Lightners and the darkness. Kris, Susie and Ralsei are able to tank Elnina´s attack easily. Previous bosses like King, Queen, Spamton, and Jevil should be superior to Elnina, and the minor darkness can tank a few hits and harm the Lightners previously when they were slightly weaker.

So almost everyone becomes 8-C+

Speed Upgrade:

This new calc also came out and makes Pizzapants Transonic speed

Who scales to this?
Only Undyne should scale to this because she is obviously superior to him


Random pages edits + Elnina and Lanino get a page

Some characters profile pages need more editing, like needing better explanation for their stats like for Tenna, some explanations need to be changed because they have the previous Building level calc from the trash machine + Elnina and Lanino must get their own page... etc


Conclusions:
Undyne gets Transonic speed
Minor edits are made
Elnino and Lanino get their own profile page
and most characters become Tier 8-C+

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks simple enough.

 

[LittleGuy99]

I agree

 

[CanineAnnoyer]

I also agree

 

[Psychomaster35]

Just to clarify, the value is 1.109 tons, which is 0.016 tons away from it being Building level+, through people stronger than Elnina should still get this. The rest should simply be Building level without the +.

Everything else is good to go.

 

[Monsters_fight]

Just to clarify, the value is 1.109 tons, which is 0.016 tons away from it being Building level+, through people stronger than Elnina should still get this. The rest should simply be Building level without the +.

Everything else is good to go.

Oh I forgot. I thought from 1 Ton and above it was 8-C+

 

[Emerald]

Shouldn't the calc use just the fact Elnina creates ice through clouds and not dry air, and therefore condensation shouldnt be included cause it's just water?
It would be something like:
2638880-2257000 = 381880 J/kg
381880 * 351.940290932 * 5 = 0.16 Tons

 

[Psychomaster35]

Shouldn't the calc use just the fact Elnina creates ice through clouds and not dry air, and therefore condensation shouldnt be included cause it's just water?

That's not a cloud, though? It just appears to be some weird sheep thing Elnina summons generating them.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

That's not a cloud, though? It just appears to be some weird sheep thing Elnina summons generating them.

It is represented by a raining cloud (The sheep) in their forecast. It's definitely a cloud that has sheep aspects, kinda like Elnina herself.

 

[Comiphorous]

This doesn't even take into account anything that happens in chapter 4 why is chapter 4 in the title.

Be the one to do the 4-A upgrade CRT and get potentially clowned on for the idea........................

 

[Psychomaster35]

This doesn't even take into account anything that happens in chapter 4 why is chapter 4 in the title.

Be the one to do the 4-A upgrade CRT and get potentially clowned on for the idea........................

I mean, you can still make the CRT for Chapter 4 content if you'd like

Also, Pizzapants' feat does happen on Chapter 4, but most of the stuff here covers Chapter 3

 

[Psychomaster35]

Anyways, staff calling time.

@Dalesean027 @LephyrTheRevanchist @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless Input on this CRT is appreciated

 

[Dalesean027]

Anyways, staff calling time.

@Dalesean027 @LephyrTheRevanchist @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless Input on this CRT is appreciated

does this contain spoilers because I'm finally going to be able to start chapter 3 and 4 on Friday, haven' yet had the chance

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Just to clarify, the value is 1.109 tons, which is 0.016 tons away from it being Building level+, through people stronger than Elnina should still get this. The rest should simply be Building level without the +.

Everything else is good to go.

Makes sense, unless I'm missing something

 

[Emerald]

That's not a cloud, though? It just appears to be some weird sheep thing Elnina summons generating them.

Its supposed to be a cloud, Elnina's whole thing is being a cloud, she causes hail, water and other weather related phenomenon

 

[Monsters_fight]

This doesn't even take into account anything that happens in chapter 4 why is chapter 4 in the title.

Be the one to do the 4-A upgrade CRT and get potentially clowned on for the idea........................

The transonic speed is from Chapter 4

 

[Monsters_fight]

So the calc should change to 0.16 Tons and become only 9-A+?
Does anyone have anything else to add?

 

[Comiphorous]

The transonic speed is from Chapter 4

i was more thinking the 4-A stuff for Chapter 4 but ig that works.

 

[Axorandom0]

This doesn't even take into account anything that happens in chapter 4 why is chapter 4 in the title.

Be the one to do the 4-A upgrade CRT and get potentially clowned on for the idea........................

I might do it. Not today, but I might. Maybe in a day… maybe in 2 years… who’s keeping track at this point?

 

[FinePoint]

Looks good.

Now do the 4-A thread, coward.

 

[Comiphorous]

Now do the 4-A thread, coward.

All deltarune supporters watching The Knight (Papyrus) reveal ralsei was lying and the entire 4-A scaling collapses in on itself in an instant, forcing us to undo all the work and downgrade everything

 

[FinePoint]

All deltarune supporters watching The Knight (Papyrus) reveal ralsei was lying and the entire 4-A scaling collapses in on itself in an instant, forcing us to undo all the work and downgrade everything

I mean I already discussed why I think 4-A Fun Gang is stupid, so I'd consider that a win.

 

[Comiphorous]

I mean I already discussed why I think 4-A Fun Gang is stupid, so I'd consider that a win.

So stupid it's cool...

a... cool dude....

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

agree

 

[Psychomaster35]

It's been 2 days and 3 staff members have already approved of it, so this can be applied.

 

[Monsters_fight]

It's been 2 days and 3 staff members have already approved of it, so this can be applied.

The thing is... do I use the 0.16 tons of TNT value?

 

[Axorandom0]

The thing is... do I use the 0.16 tons of TNT value?

The energy per second end (1.1 tons of tnt) was the accepted one

 

[Monsters_fight]

The energy per second end (1.1 tons of tnt) was the accepted one

Alright, I´ll make the changes

 

[Monsters_fight]

Should I add a key for Chapters 3 & 4 Kris Susie and Ralsei? I think it will be better if I do

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

light speed and 4-A deltarune coming for you all

 

[Psychomaster35]

Should I add a key for Chapters 3 & 4 Kris Susie and Ralsei? I think it will be better if I do

Yeah, that would be fine

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

It is represented by a raining cloud (The sheep) in their forecast. It's definitely a cloud that has sheep aspects, kinda like Elnina herself.

Its supposed to be a cloud, Elnina's whole thing is being a cloud, she causes hail, water and other weather related phenomenon

We really just gonna ignore this.

 

[Monsters_fight]

We really just gonna ignore this.

Tbf I asked everyone their thoughts after you sent that and they ignored it and the staff just accepted the Building level end.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Tbf I asked everyone their thoughts after you sent that and they ignored it and the staff just accepted the Building level end.

It's more a calc issue than an interpretation that staff can take sides on, and Psycho's only response to it is that it's not a cloud, which like, it is.

 

[Comiphorous]

If we scale chapter 1 characters to chapter 3 and 4 characters, they’ll be scaled to 4-A due to the titan.

I don’t think minor characters like Lancer should scale to 4-A for very obvious reasons. Not sure about Chaprer 1 scaling to chapter 3/4 feats

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

If we scale chapter 1 characters to chapter 3 and 4 characters, they’ll be scaled to 4-A due to the titan.

I don’t think minor characters like Lancer should scale to 4-A for very obvious reasons. Not sure about Chaprer 1 scaling to chapter 3/4 feats

They end up scaling via King being > the Pippins and their stats themselves being below most of the CH2 Mini-bosses

 

[Homie890]

Elnino and Lanina?
they are based on that natural phenomena thingy?

 

[Monsters_fight]

All the necessary changes were made. The CRT can be closed

 

[Psychomaster35]

Just for the record, I think you should've separated the Chapter 3 and 4 keys since they obtain new abilities between those chapters.

 

[Comiphorous]

Just for the record, I think you should've separated the Chapter 3 and 4 keys since they obtain new abilities between those chapters.

They weren’t separated????