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Wuthering Waves Low 1-C Verse Proposal

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Another anime gacha game, another verse we can powerscale. Wuthering Waves cosmology is quite high right off the bat. So without further ado, let's get started.

World Setting Explanation
Wuthering waves is the same world as our world, Earth. It's called Solaris-3 meaning third planet from the sun. They used electricity as an energy before everything is turned into Frequencies. Solaris-3 used to be composed of matter and information back then. But now it's all composed of frequencies. This allowed living beings to resonate with other frequncies and merge frequencies.

Multiverse
Wuthering Waves multiverse is composed of infinite dimensions and realms with each being Low 2-C space time. Countless possiblities are being born and fading away where even the smallest deviation can cause entirely different outcomes. So, The Multiverse is 2-A.

Remnant Energy
This energy transcends and exists beyond time and space. In the world of Wuthering waves where frequencies of everything decay and decline as the times goes on, only remnant energy is the unchanging and stable frequency energy. Remnant energy is capable of capturing events from the multiverse across time and space. Remnant energy can't be stored or preserve unless they use a special ore called Tectite. Just transcending and existing beyond space and time isn't necessarily considered as 5D but It's also referred to as a high-dimensional energy proving its transcendent as dimensional and able to record any information from any point across all of space-time. Iit should be Low 1-C without any further context. (Probably 1-A later :3)

Sonoro Sphere
Sonoro Sphere is the realms where remnant energies exist. Sonoro Sphere are stated to be Transdimensional spaces. Although original chinese text only said "Supernatural Regions", english localization team of Wuthering waves decided to go with Transdimensional since Remnant energy transcends time and space. Sonoro spheres will be scaled to Low 1-C but not all Sonoro Spheres will be Low 1-C. Because some sonoro spheres are manifested physically or generated by overclocking and other various factors.

We have main character profile working right now. I will make a seperate crt for profile. This should be a very simple and straight forward proposal.

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Thanks for you time!
 
Another anime gacha game, another verse we can powerscale. Wuthering Waves cosmology is quite high right off the bat. So without further ado, let's get started.

World Setting Explanation
Wuthering waves is the same world as our world, Earth. It's called Solaris-3 meaning third planet from the sun. They used electricity as an energy before everything is turned into Frequencies. Solaris-3 used to be composed of matter and information back then. But now it's all composed of frequencies. This allowed living beings to resonate with other frequncies and merge frequencies.

Multiverse
Wuthering Waves multiverse is composed of infinite dimensions and realms with each being Low 2-C space time. Countless possiblities are being born and fading away where even the smallest deviation can cause entirely different outcomes. So, The Multiverse is 2-A.
Countless doesnt mean infinite, nor does the scan abt low 2-C spaces actually mention anything being separate space times, in fact it just mentions that something affects their space time.
Remnant Energy
This energy transcends and exists beyond time and space. In the world of Wuthering waves where frequencies of everything decay and decline as the times goes on, only remnant energy is the unchanging and stable frequency energy. Remnant energy is capable of capturing events from the multiverse across time and space. Remnant energy can't be stored or preserve unless they use a special ore called Tectite. Just transcending and existing beyond space and time isn't necessarily considered as 5D but It's also referred to as a high-dimensional energy proving its transcendent as dimensional and able to record any information from any point across all of space-time. Iit should be Low 1-C without any further context. (Probably 1-A later :3)
First one is clear flowery language, second one has no translation, third scan is range, idk 4th one and last one is actually interesting scan.
Sonoro Sphere
Sonoro Sphere is the realms where remnant energies exist. Sonoro Sphere are stated to be Transdimensional spaces. Although original chinese text only said "Supernatural Regions", english localization team of Wuthering waves decided to go with Transdimensional since Remnant energy transcends time and space. Sonoro spheres will be scaled to Low 1-C but not all Sonoro Spheres will be Low 1-C. Because some sonoro spheres are manifested physically or generated by overclocking and other various factors.

We have main character profile working right now. I will make a seperate crt for profile. This should be a very simple and straight forward proposal.

Agree -
Neutral -
Disagree -

Thanks for you time!
Neutral, this is so rushed bro, in fact we dont even have a verse page, no character profiles, no nothing literally empty verse and u decided to make this crt 💀
 
Sharing PedjaTarzan's opinion.

Although, first scan of Remnant Energy isn't "flowery" it's factually carrying information from different places and different times, just not in the way it can be scaled.

But yeah, not seeing any Low 1-C too. I think you should've wait at least until the second part of 2.4 story since I think it would give some more info about timelines and such.
 
Countless doesnt mean infinite, nor does the scan abt low 2-C spaces actually mention anything being separate space times, in fact it just mentions that something affects their space time.
We can settled in 2-B for now if that's the case. It literally mentioned "Our current space time". There's also a statement of gravity being able wrap the fabric of space and time.
First one is clear flowery language, second one has no translation, third scan is range, idk 4th one and last one is actually interesting scan.
Nothing is flowery here. It's explictly stated as transcending and existing beyond space and time. I already stated how this alone won't grant 5D as you might think but the last scan saying it being a high dimensional energy prove this more. Original chinese text also use "high dimensional" as it's.
黑海岸岛链本身就是一块巨大的、蕴含着高维回音能量的黑石,这也成为了支持黑海岸“泰缇斯系统”巨大能耗的核心。而黑石频率的形成的巨大能量场,成为了黑海岸隐匿于海中的天然屏障。对组织外人员而言,需要得到黑海岸的邀请,才能因循守岸人的指引到达。
 
Thats just casual space time hax, this cant be 4D at all, even blackholes which do this so casually are not 4D at all
There're literally multiple statements about space-time
Here is from item description
Explictly stating "Our Current Space Time"
However, recent data indicate that time ripples generated by the disaster are converging on our current spacetime
Again stating "This space time"
Under these circumstances, Plan 3 poses a significant risk: Event A within this spacetime could become an absolute outlier from Event O, severing the causal connection between the two
What is your problem with each universe being 4D? Please make it clear
 
There're literally multiple statements about space-time
Here is from item description
Explictly stating "Our Current Space Time"

Again stating "This space time"

What is your problem with each universe being 4D? Please make it clear
the issue is not universe being 4D, thats okay but the issue is that the statements abt warping space time are not meant to say tha tthey wrap entire universe itself and thus is just casual space time hax instead
 
the issue is not universe being 4D, thats okay but the issue is that the statements abt warping space time are not meant to say tha tthey wrap entire universe itself and thus is just casual space time hax instead
Yeah if that scan is not valid to use here, it's fine too. As long as Low 2-C universe is established. We now have 2-B multiverse with Low 2-C Universes. Can you explain more about why you disgaree with 5D remnant too without summing up everything as "flowery"?
 
I am not knowledgeable on the verse but this scan alone doesn't suffice countless 2-B for me. It says that something known as "matrix" showed her different iterations of her past and even the smallest deviation can lead to entirely different outcomes. Meaning that even if the smallest decisions would've been different, it would've resulted in a completely different outcome. What this scan fails to establish is that all these "iterations" exist and are all equally real. Think of this way, if someone's sees millions of possibilities it doesn't mean all of those possibilities are realised. So from the information provided by the scan, I disagree. Although I am open to a change of mind if more information is to be provided.
 
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Multiverse
Wuthering Waves multiverse is composed of infinite dimensions and realms with each being Low 2-C space time. Countless possiblities are being born and fading away where even the smallest deviation can cause entirely different outcomes. So, The Multiverse is 2-A.
Fading away is literally an anti-feat, except if it's like the Tree and the Sea metaphor in Honkai where leaf worlds turn into bubble worlds hence fading away. The implication of them fading away means that those possibilities are just, gone. That's not what 2-A is since it requires all of the possibilities to be realized (MWI).
Remnant Energy
This energy transcends and exists beyond time and space. In the world of Wuthering waves where frequencies of everything decay and decline as the times goes on, only remnant energy is the unchanging and stable frequency energy. Remnant energy is capable of capturing events from the multiverse across time and space. Remnant energy can't be stored or preserve unless they use a special ore called Tectite. Just transcending and existing beyond space and time isn't necessarily considered as 5D but It's also referred to as a high-dimensional energy proving its transcendent as dimensional and able to record any information from any point across all of space-time. Iit should be Low 1-C without any further context. (Probably 1-A later :3)
Beyond time and space there aren't a superiority but rather the literal meaning as the energy is not restricted by space-time, hence the transcend stuff (And oh did I mention that this is the information, this is literally what Tensura had with their Information Particles and that's not Low 1-C at all) and this is supported by the fact that they can capture events across dimensions (It's not multiverse, take Rover's dimension where it host the Crownless or when Ragunna is engulfed by the dark tide/Lupa's newest story where it shows to us of another dimension) in which all of their sizes are unquantifiable.

About Rover, it honestly don't make sense since it's implied that Prime Rover is stronger than Current Rover (Atleast that's what Jue implied).
 
I disagree. Although I open to a change of mind if you can provide more information.
Matrix is called Stellar Matrix. It's some sort of complex file that is so advanced it's capable of simulating civilizations and lament. So, what camellya saying here is how the simulation shows countless possibilites. So, how these countless possibilities are actualized? It's stated in the very same scan that "Tethys captured all data across Solaris". Thus, all of simulations Tethys does come from these possibilities of actual world. Although we can't access the other timelines directly as of it right now, we can access it by Tethys' simulation of it since it's basically a replica.

You must understand that Stellar Matrix, Necrostar and Tethys are all viusalized as Digital but not really digital in a sense we know of. Tethys is state to be akin to collection of Sonoro Sphere.
The Shorekeeper: Thus, the Tethys System can hold nearly infinite data—it is akin to a collection of Sonoro Spheres.
It has no physical part at all.
The Tethys System has no discernible energy source, physical infrastructure, or processing core. Its coding language is extremely complex, and it is only known that its terminals take the form of various autonomous robots. In essence, the Tethys System is almost akin to a natural phenomenon, with an origin that remains entirely mysterious.
It's even stated as "high dimensional code" in EN localization.
Here sits the Black Shores' Lament observation hub, the heart of the Tethys System. Its high-dimensional code stretches across the vast underground sky like ever-shifting celestial bodies, known as the "Stellar Matrices".
Fading away is literally an anti-feat, except if it's like the Tree and the Sea metaphor in Honkai where leaf worlds turn into bubble worlds hence fading away
We can hold of 2-B Multivers as of it's right now since nobody will scale to it and as long as it get Low 1-C, it's fine. I can prove that there're other univeres outside of current one but I can't quantify how much. Yeah, it's a multiverse but the number is a bit vague.
The Shorekeeper: You once wove the threads of this world together, but then you left, roving the boundaries between this realm and the next.

Beyond time and space there aren't a superiority but rather the literal meaning as the energy is not restricted by space-time
If it's not a higher dimensional energy, you would be right. But it's a high dimensional energy implying its transcendent.

take Rover's dimension where it host the Crownless or when Ragunna is engulfed by the dark tide/Lupa's newest story where it shows to us of another dimension) in which all of their sizes are unquantifiable.
These aren't universes. Rover's dimension is given by The Goddess in the first cutscene and Lupa new story of another dimension is most likely a fictional pocket reality created by Christoforo. It's obviously hinted.
 
Interesting crt.
Is there someone working on characters profile?.
I am currently working on Rover profile. We will need a lot of calculation to do for character profiles. Unfortunately, I know nothing when it comes to calculation
 
Another anime gacha game, another verse we can powerscale. Wuthering Waves cosmology is quite high right off the bat. So without further ado, let's get started.

World Setting Explanation
Wuthering waves is the same world as our world, Earth. It's called Solaris-3 meaning third planet from the sun. They used electricity as an energy before everything is turned into Frequencies. Solaris-3 used to be composed of matter and information back then. But now it's all composed of frequencies. This allowed living beings to resonate with other frequncies and merge frequencies.

Multiverse
Wuthering Waves multiverse is composed of infinite dimensions and realms with each being Low 2-C space time. Countless possiblities are being born and fading away where even the smallest deviation can cause entirely different outcomes. So, The Multiverse is 2-A.

Remnant Energy
This energy transcends and exists beyond time and space. In the world of Wuthering waves where frequencies of everything decay and decline as the times goes on, only remnant energy is the unchanging and stable frequency energy. Remnant energy is capable of capturing events from the multiverse across time and space. Remnant energy can't be stored or preserve unless they use a special ore called Tectite. Just transcending and existing beyond space and time isn't necessarily considered as 5D but It's also referred to as a high-dimensional energy proving its transcendent as dimensional and able to record any information from any point across all of space-time. Iit should be Low 1-C without any further context. (Probably 1-A later :3)

Sonoro Sphere
Sonoro Sphere is the realms where remnant energies exist. Sonoro Sphere are stated to be Transdimensional spaces. Although original chinese text only said "Supernatural Regions", english localization team of Wuthering waves decided to go with Transdimensional since Remnant energy transcends time and space. Sonoro spheres will be scaled to Low 1-C but not all Sonoro Spheres will be Low 1-C. Because some sonoro spheres are manifested physically or generated by overclocking and other various factors.

We have main character profile working right now. I will make a seperate crt for profile. This should be a very simple and straight forward proposal.

Agree -
Neutral -
Disagree -

Thanks for you time!
I think you could've used much better scans to better provide proof for 2A/L1C, such as Jue having a Sonoro Sphere that encompasses the beginning and end of all time. Jue by witnessing the future being able to envision endless possibilities, The black shores underground being able to hold records of the lament in the past, present & future. Or, the most simple, blatant and obvious one being Camellya's companion story which verbatim states it's infinite timelines. Then there's the stuff such as the black shores archipelago being rich in high-dimensional remnant energy, which powers the tethy's system like you mentioned. There's more to support it iirc but nothing too concrete if memory serves, at the very least 2A is all but assured tho.
 
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The evidence is pretty shoddy for low 1-C. Even if it was 5-D you need to prove these have some actual superiority such as viewing lower dimension as if it were a finite medium compared to its infinity to qualify for low 1-C. Transcend/beyond is never enough on its own for a higher tier or dimensional superiority even if it "transcends" and is "high-dimensional" (doesn't necessitate an infinite size difference).
 
I think you could've used much better scans to better provide proof for 2A/L1C, such as Jue having a Sonoro Sphere that encompasses the beginning and end of all time. Jue by witnessing the future being able to envision endless possibilities, The black shores underground being able to hold records of the lament in the past, present & future. Or, the most simple, blatant and obvious one being Camellya's companion story which verbatim states it's infinite timelines. Then there's the stuff such as the black shores archipelago being rich in high-dimensional remnant energy, which powers the tethy's system like you mentioned. There's more to support it iirc but nothing too concrete if memory serves, at the very least 2A is all but assured tho.
Is infinite here in companion story image literal? Because it follows up with "millions of possibilities" which is a far cry from infinity.
 
I think you could've used much better scans to better provide proof for 2A/L1C, such as Jue having a Sonoro Sphere that encompasses the beginning and end of all time. Jue by witnessing the future being able to envision endless possibilities, The black shores underground being able to hold records of the lament in the past, present & future. Or, the most simple, blatant and obvious one being Camellya's companion story which verbatim states it's infinite timelines. Then there's the stuff such as the black shores archipelago being rich in high-dimensional remnant energy, which powers the tethy's system like you mentioned. There's more to support it iirc but nothing too concrete if memory serves, at the very least 2A is all but assured tho.
I didn't add Jue scans becuz I didn't know it can work as proof here. Thanks for providing more to the crt. The reason why I didn't use Camellya story quest description "infinite timelines" is because in original chinese, it's "countless 無數" instead of "infinite".
黑海岸花房中, 椿正靜靜凝望着無聲搖曳的植株們。星海深處,無數世界的可能性交織、分岔、中斷。命運盡頭,千萬個宇宙都走向同一種終局。

The evidence is pretty shoddy for low 1-C. Even if it was 5-D you need to prove these have some actual superiority such as viewing lower dimension as if it were a finite medium compared to its infinity to qualify for low 1-C. Transcend/beyond is never enough on its own for a higher tier or dimensional superiority even if it "transcends" and is "high-dimensional" (doesn't necessitate an infinite size difference).
Remnant being Higher Dimensional already proved superiority over 4D. Shorekeeper, a remnant being is capable of jounerying to the end of time and space.
 
Is infinite here in companion story image literal? Because it follows up with "millions of possibilities" which is a far cry from infinity.
I think it's more like Camellya meeting Rover is like Millions of Possibilities amongst infinite timelines from the context. So that infinite timelines should be literal.
 
Settle this as 2-B to 2-A Cosmology for now using the Companion Quest or Jue scan. Low 1-C can be left alone for now—just my suggestion to the OP. The current arguments aren’t well formatted or sufficient from what I’m seeing.
 
That's not how it works. For higher dimensionality to give you a higher tier it specifically has to have infinite superiority over lower dimension.
Each universe is 4D space time and remnant is able to record any slice of information from the collection of countless 4D spaces. If it's not 5D, will it still be able to do this? More over, the word 高维 is used for being higher dimensional is mostly used in math for explaining actual spatial higher dimensions. So by definition of the word itself, shouldn't it be 5D?
 
Each universe is 4D space time and remnant is able to record any slice of information from the collection of countless 4D spaces. If it's not 5D, will it still be able to do this? More over, the word 高维 is used for being higher dimensional is mostly used in math for explaining actual spatial higher dimensions. So by definition of the word itself, shouldn't it be 5D?
Something 5-D isn't automatically low 1-C.
 
Something 5-D isn't automatically low 1-C.
Then why is this in tiering system page?
Characters or objects who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy higher-dimensional structures that are one uncountably infinite level[note 2] above Low 2-C structures. In ordinary distribution, this corresponds to R^5 (5-dimensional real coordinate space).
 
Then why is this in tiering system page?
 
English word "Higher dimension" can mean a lot of different things. It can be a powerful realm or dimension above current one. You can imagine a lot of things with this word. But in Chinese, this 高维 is specifically used to refer higher dimension in math. So by definition of the word itself, it's already a fully fledged 5D as per vsb standards
 
Multiverse
Wuthering Waves multiverse is composed of infinite dimensions and realms with each being Low 2-C space time. Countless possiblities are being born and fading away where even the smallest deviation can cause entirely different outcomes. So, The Multiverse is 2-A.
I think "possibility" doesn't always refer to the universe, is there any further explanation to get a 2b level cosmology?
disagree 2A because countless is not the same as infinite
Remnant Energy
This energy transcends and exists beyond time and space. In the world of Wuthering waves where frequencies of everything decay and decline as the times goes on, only remnant energy is the unchanging and stable frequency energy. Remnant energy is capable of capturing events from the multiverse across time and space. Remnant energy can't be stored or preserve unless they use a special ore called Tectite. Just transcending and existing beyond space and time isn't necessarily considered as 5D but It's also referred to as a high-dimensional energy proving its transcendent as dimensional and able to record any information from any point across all of space-time. Iit should be Low 1-C without any further context. (Probably 1-A later :3)
I don't see any indication of a higher dimension there at all, if it really goes beyond space time, it's just bde1
Sonoro Sphere
Sonoro Sphere is the realms where remnant energies exist. Sonoro Sphere are stated to be Transdimensional spaces. Although original chinese text only said "Supernatural Regions", english localization team of Wuthering waves decided to go with Transdimensional since Remnant energy transcends time and space. Sonoro spheres will be scaled to Low 1-C but not all Sonoro Spheres will be Low 1-C. Because some sonoro spheres are manifested physically or generated by overclocking and other various factors.
I think, transdimensional does not always refer to a higher dimension, being outside the dimension can also be called transdimensional, or supernatural space as written on original text
 
English word "Higher dimension" can mean a lot of different things. It can be a powerful realm or dimension above current one. You can imagine a lot of things with this word. But in Chinese, this 高维 is specifically used to refer higher dimension in math. So by definition of the word itself, it's already a fully fledged 5D as per vsb standards
I'm saying that a mathematical 5-D doesn't always qualify for low 1-C.
 
2-B to 2-A looks fine, not seeing low 1-C tho... Just being called Transdimensional alone doesn't suffice it, unless it has sufficient evidence that it dwarfs a significant 4D structure to an infinitesimal plane, or it's uncountably infinite superior than any and all 4D structures (containing an uncountably infinitely many 4D structures that can be considered a "subdivisions/subsets" compare to the whole), it will just be deemed as a insignificant 5D stuff.. The only thing I could probably see this being 5D if the number of timelines are uncountably Infinite. but what I've seen it's just countably so it's not sufficient enough. That's about it.
 
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I don't have anything to say against the cosmology being tier 2 or so, but just wanted to make sure that I disagree with anyone scaling to the cosmology itself atm
 
Multiverse
Wuthering Waves multiverse is composed of infinite dimensions and realms with each being Low 2-C space time. Countless possiblities are being born and fading away where even the smallest deviation can cause entirely different outcomes. So, The Multiverse is 2-A.
I agree with this. It sounds reasonable, especially considering that the Sonoro Sphere follows and reconstructs historical events. If the history it reflects is planetary in scale, then the Sonoro Sphere would reconstruct it on that scale. It's not merely a data archive, but a rebuilt space that can also be interacted with. You might also want to include scaling from Somnoire, as that presents an even more promising avenue for higher-end feats.
For remnant 5D uh its 50/50
 
First one is clear flowery language, second one has no translation, third scan is range, idk 4th one and last one is actually interesting scan.
I don't think it's flowery language.
Based on in-game feats, the Sonoro Sphere is indeed unbound by time and space, as shown in Jiyan's story quest. If I recall correctly, there’s even a dialogue stating that staying too long within the Sonoro Sphere makes it increasingly difficult to distinguish true reality from illusion and prolonged exposure may even lead to the erasure of one’s existence (?)
 
We can settle for 2-B cosmology at this time. I have updated Rover's profile with scans. I would like to publish it if the scaling is accepted.

 
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