Killerdrone123
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Yeah this is an incon
Voting incon
Voting incon
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Tyrants of Time and Code - Dark King Fu (DBH) VS Crandle (PGR) [5-0-9]
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AE is pretty useless if it's Type 2, generally speaking. Her type 1 has aspects that Fu can interact with, anyway.
Killerdrone123
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History EE can erase someone having accausality type 3 as it can erase someone from past, present and future especially dbh history ee as it can nuke guys to the point there trace vanish from the entire multiverse
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Her profile doesn't mention it being passive. I'm just giving her a benefit of the doubt, if we're being realistic, her CM hax in her profile doesn't mention anything about Passive or she has passive Aura there, I still sincerely doubt about it..
The justification doesn't help as well.
I don't see any notable "passive" there, so I still stand on my stance.
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Demons like Fu are disconnected and beyond time, fate, causality and history.. The inherent Physiology of demons makes them unaffected by fate hax, causality hax, precognition etc.. And actually, it's stated that those killed by demons can't be resurrected iirc.
It's on the demon physiology page.
AlipheeseXIV
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AlipheeseXIV
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The fact you didn't see it doesn't mean anything as you literally previously glossed over her entire 2nd key earlier so, I really don't think you not seeing it means much with that in mind. She does have passive aura, it's literally stated here. You just didn't properly check the page
AlipheeseXIV
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And? She has acausality type 4 negation and logic manip, this doesn't mean jack.
Completely useless.
AlipheeseXIV
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Well yes, history EE can do that but I was referring to EE generally speaking. It by default is not assumed to have that level of potency is what I meant
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Completely unrelated from the Concept hax you speak of, this is merely a cellular breakdown. Oh yeah, This is just Hax Aura. Corruption? That's resisted, Fu resists Death hax due to having cells from various fighters like CC goku, CC Vegeta
who also resisted Death hax, they too resisted Destron Gas, a substance that causes death and rotten gas on a cellular level, Mind erasure? Even god Ki users can resist Android 21's waves which can erase memories like CC goku, CC Vegeta etc.. already possesses And Fu has their data and cells.. The difference between them is that Fu's Overwhelming Passive Aura is to tied to his AP, thats the nature of Aura in DB in general. Which inevitably crush her over and over.
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That scan just talks about releasing the chaos contamination, and endowing the contaminating mimetic with personality, it doesn't say anything remotely close to passive.
Richtofen115rdg5
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Don't you understand what the scan said? The first Agent Zero was borned by endowing the the Chaos contamination with personality, this means that Cradle is a walking Chaos contamination itself. Cradle doesn't need to activate the contamination, she is the contamination
Richtofen115rdg5
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Change my vote to incon
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Being the source of the contamination =/= unleashed constant passive effect, it still needs to be unleashed or applied to if you read the scans, it does say not constantly active or passive itself. the description shows it spreads via influence (needing to corrupt things) rather than just an active one.
Here's an analogy, A radioactive material is radiation, but it doesn’t automatically poison everything nearby—it needs to emits radiation first in order to spread and corrupt things nearby. Similarly, Chaos Contamination must be activated or emitted to spread and corrupt things.
That's not remotely similar to the Dark King Fu, which his mere presence alone warps and distorted the multiverse.
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This sounds pretty much passive to me.
If infected people could decide wether to infect or not others, the chaos wouldn't have expanded at all
Bad analogy. Radiation is, indeed, emited passively. An object cannot decide to or not to emit radiation. If radiation didn't automatically radiate anything nearby, there wouldn't be so much problem with contaminated areas irl
From what it's seen in the scan sent above, Chaos Contamination seems to work similarly
She does not need to distort the entire multiverse nor anything. She just needs to have at best 4km of range with her ability, as that is the SBA maximum distance.
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Btw, I vote for incon FRA
Richtofen115rdg5
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Probably Lucia Pyroath's chapter
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Yeah this is prob an incon at least from what I'm seeing
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It was stated to be slow and progressive it does not entail an* instantaneous* passive like they claimed, still pertaining to the inherent speed of the said ability, when the scans explicitly states this;
it spreads slowly and its long asymptomatic incubation period provides enough time for itself to reach more people.
in a speed equalized scenario, doesn't necessarily negate or restrict the speed of the passive abilities.
Chaos contamination just spreads via ripple effects. A character whose mere presence alone warps the arrival exerts their effects before the corruption which need ripples to begin. the corruption has to start, spread and affect, the scan states this;
The infection of Chaos contamination (if someone got affected by it) just starts at them having a mental illness (Hallucinations, violent behavior) etc.. It does not say it kills the victims instantly.. the effect still needs progressive interval,
the Chaos contamination has an incubation period (Long, and asymptomatic) and still Requires propagation.
Fu has many counters to this, for one his dimensional domain is passive which will disables her from using any abilities or moving, by reducing her stamina to 1, or use his Dark Factor to empower himself more when the fight immediately starts, gets more faster, stat amp etc..
Empowerment (The Dark Factor resonates with the evil heart that it latches itself onto,[97] becoming stronger as a result, and more filled up.[73])
But even then his Aura already do the job, so overall, I'm still staying on Fu.
So if y'all still see this is incon, that's fine, Sure.
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so are FU's aura as you can literally see in the scans it happened overtime and even they had the chance to react and cover themselves?
what are you even arguing for
what are you even arguing for
AlipheeseXIV
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That's what I'm saying man 
I don't understand what this guys arguments even are atp
I don't understand what this guys arguments even are atp
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Yes, Fu's Aura expanded - but the effect of it was passive, constant and immediate upon contact, you're just judging the pacing of the animation, he should have similar notion to Dark Eternal Shenron and Mechikabura's presence which warps the whole multiverse by their awakening (stated by Chronoa, as he possesses Dark Factor akin to them), it's not impossible to say that Fu can do what they did as well. And just because it spreads outward doesn't mean the effect is delayed once it reaches you. But I'll just stop here for now. I'm not gonna continue on rattling afterwards.
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CelestialVortex01
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Yeah incon sounds fitting.
AlipheeseXIV
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I believe this can be officially passed as incon now
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Don’t you think it’s a bit late?
What do you think, should we compare Cradle with Tier 1-B against Fu?
Also... Cradle has CM1 6D,
and Fu still hasn’t reached that level of resistance.
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This still going on???
The 1-B is possible so if you want the match to be even you can restrict the possible rating
Dimensionality isn't apply to non-physical hax anymore, so no more thing like 6D CM, 364D Soul hax, etc....the only thing matter now is either layers of hax, or you have hax that is qualitatively superior
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No, because the changes have already been applied to the characters pages, and it’s better not to continue
Since it’s possible 1-B, should we consider it completely invalid?
Interesting, I didn’t know it could be considered equal, but it’s better not to, since it was already concluded before
I don’t understand what you mean, are you saying FU has resistance to all CM1?
He only has resistance to abilities that are limited to 5D, not to n-D ones
But I think I understand what you mean, only abilities like space-time manipulation have 5D or 6D written next to them on the page, right?
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Because 1-B rating fron Cradle is possibly, while Low 1-C is a solid rating, according to the rule, you can restrict the possibly rating to make the match doable. If Cradle is outright 1-B and do not have Low 1-C rating, you can't restrict the 1-B rating, though you can equalize the tier to make the match doable, it will turn into Fun and Games instead and the result will not be added to the profile
You can't applies dimensionality to the potency of hax that is non-physical anymore, it is now just the range. So no more thing such as 6D CM will bypass 5D CM resistance, the only thing matter is layers of the hax in question vs layers of the resistance. Unless your CM is 1-A or higher in potency, which is qualitative superior
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Has a CRT been made about it? So that I can understand by reading the OP?
For example, comic Hulk has a CM1 1-A ability.
That doesn’t mean he can affect characters who are 1-A, right? I’ve always interpreted it that way.
Let’s say a planet-level character has a set of fixed abilities.
And if they reach Tier 2-C, their abilities increase and become stronger by the same proportion
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1-A vs 1-A is a different thing, what i mean is that if a character have 1-A CM, then it will always bypass non 1-A CM rssistance due no matter how strong non 1-A CM resistance is. The same thing applies to other non-physical haxes, such as Soul hax, Info 2 hax, etc....
?, their abilities getting stronger doesn't matter, dimensionality doesn't matter in non-physical hax battle anymore, it is only affect the range of said ability, not potency, unless getting stronger translate to getting higher layers
CRT about what?
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About the Hax abilities, they shouldn’t be 6D, 5D, or even nD,
because a lot of characters already have that
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can we please add an NLF note regarding the durability negation page
Can you be more specific what it'd be changed to? If you mean just replacing the mention of mind stuff there with "information", it may be ideal to be a bit more specific, given there's Information Manipulation on the site, which should fall on the same ballpark as concepts (aka, it can quite...
You can still list nD for hax that tied to dimensionality, such as Space-Time Manipulation or Dimensional Manipulation
